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Woah. Rep Schiff: New evidence of Trump/Russia collusion "would merit a grand jury investigation" (Original Post) kpete Mar 2017 OP
This is an interesting comment. n/t ms liberty Mar 2017 #1
K&R. Schiff should know. rzemanfl Mar 2017 #2
The impeachment will be better attended than the inauguration underpants Mar 2017 #3
Believe me superpatriotman Mar 2017 #10
Amen uponit7771 Mar 2017 #13
Does treason still merit the death penalty in the US? NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #33
One of the other Dem Intel Committee members on Hardball said there is now probable cause. nt deminks Mar 2017 #4
Yesterday on a conference call with DFA, Senator Merkley said we need to keep Gorsuch from Amaryllis Mar 2017 #5
Now we're talking. C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #6
He wouldnt be able to know truth from lies even under oath. When someone is delusional, can Amaryllis Mar 2017 #20
It'll be an all-you-can-eat smorgasbord of perjury C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #21
CNN on video says Nunes says he has no idea what Schiff is talking about RE evidence of Amaryllis Mar 2017 #7
Nunez Has Already Committed A Crime ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #8
I have no idea! Marcuse Mar 2017 #18
And the function of a grand jury is to decide whether to issue criminal indictments. (n/t) FreepFryer Mar 2017 #9
Sheds a new light on firing all the Federal attorneys investigating? yallerdawg Mar 2017 #11
To paraphrase "it's not a lie if you believe it" Merlot Mar 2017 #22
Well now we know GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #12
I am not a fan of Grand Jury, here is why. Equinox Moon Mar 2017 #14
This! Grand juries are secret and we need this in the open FakeNoose Mar 2017 #28
Yep. Fully public! Equinox Moon Mar 2017 #31
There has probably been an empaneled , secret FISA grand jury in operation since October. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #15
And what good did it do our country? FakeNoose Mar 2017 #29
You don't seem to understand. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #30
Here's what I understand - FakeNoose Mar 2017 #32
This is probably the only way to get the ball started BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #16
Kick. dalton99a Mar 2017 #17
KnR Hekate Mar 2017 #19
Schiff didn't call for a GJ DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #23
great point! He was not suggesting a grand jury, but more indicating how strong the Akamai Mar 2017 #37
kick for visibility triron Mar 2017 #24
SCHIFF CALLED ON THE PUBLIC TO DEMAND AN OPEN HEARING Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #25
Calling JOHN MCCAIN and LINDSEY GRAHAM, if you are patriots you MUST speak up now! Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #26
Send pm to your rep at his or her site, tell them to hit the floor and not leave it until we have Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #27
Treason. PatrickforO Mar 2017 #34
Schiff is doing an excellent job of keeping the public informed. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #35
Will any of this be directly linked to Trump though? Kablooie Mar 2017 #36
There is in the law culpability for those who should have known what was going on. Akamai Mar 2017 #38
What I dont get is why the secrecy if he knows something why not speak about it on the floor in the cstanleytech Mar 2017 #39

rzemanfl

(29,554 posts)
2. K&R. Schiff should know.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:17 PM
Mar 2017

"After receiving his JD from Harvard, Schiff began working as a prosecutor in the Los Angeles branch of the U.S. Attorney's Office. While an assistant U.S. Attorney he gained attention by prosecuting a case against Richard Miller, a former FBI agent convicted of "passing secret documents to the Soviet Union in exchange for a promised $65,000 in gold and cash." (from Wikipedia)

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
33. Does treason still merit the death penalty in the US?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 03:29 PM
Mar 2017

I bet a public hanging would get bigly ratings.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
5. Yesterday on a conference call with DFA, Senator Merkley said we need to keep Gorsuch from
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:40 PM
Mar 2017

being voted on as long as we can because it will get harder and harder to proceed as more of the Russia stuff is brought to light.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
20. He wouldnt be able to know truth from lies even under oath. When someone is delusional, can
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 10:44 PM
Mar 2017

they still perjure themselves?

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
7. CNN on video says Nunes says he has no idea what Schiff is talking about RE evidence of
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 08:43 PM
Mar 2017

collusion. So easy question: who is more credible? Nunes or Schiff?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
11. Sheds a new light on firing all the Federal attorneys investigating?
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 09:24 PM
Mar 2017

Sessions must be on his knees praying for his eternal soul every night!

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
22. To paraphrase "it's not a lie if you believe it"
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:00 PM
Mar 2017

"it's not wrong if you know in your heart it's right" would probably be sessions logic.

These people really think the ends justifies the means, they are true believers.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
12. Well now we know
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 09:31 PM
Mar 2017

What sent Nunes into a panic yesterday and why neither the WH or Nunes is talking about it now. That was a stupid move. His credibility is shot even amoung Senate Republicans.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
14. I am not a fan of Grand Jury, here is why.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 09:39 PM
Mar 2017

I have seen over and over and over again black men shot and killed and their shooter gets off every time by the Grand Jury process. It is a one-sided, closed door deal.

We need all this open, independent and fair. We have too many within the government part of this treason.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
28. This! Grand juries are secret and we need this in the open
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:28 PM
Mar 2017

I totally agree equinox moon and I've been saying the same.
The American people need to see this - ALL of it.



L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
15. There has probably been an empaneled , secret FISA grand jury in operation since October.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 09:40 PM
Mar 2017

Otherwise, the White House would not have been subpoenaed and forced to order document retention several weeks ago. And, if that process was not near fully completed, Comey would not have been authorized to reveal an investigation was happening.

I imagine the second FISA warrant was to (1) make certain they were proceeding with an unimpeachable warrant by more narrowly defining the targets so inclusion of a possible President-elect would not impair procedureand (2) to impanel the grand jury based on the new, bullet-proof warrant.

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
29. And what good did it do our country?
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:32 PM
Mar 2017

A secret grand jury did nothing for us, it should have all been out in the open.

***BEFORE THE ELECTION***

We could have stopped the election from even happening, if we had known.
Instead they kept it all quiet and let this asshole win.

Now where are we?

FakeNoose

(32,579 posts)
32. Here's what I understand -
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 02:25 PM
Mar 2017

FBI director James Comey circulated his famous letter to every member of Congress less than 10 days before the election. That letter made UNTRUE but damaging insinuations about Hillary just in time to influence a few undecided voters. The GOP made a heyday out of it, even though they knew it was nothing.

Meanwhile the FBI also had (apparent) PROOF that Trump and his group colluded with a foreign country and enemy of the USA, in order to win the election and cheat Hillary. They had this info in October and yet it was sealed by Grand Jury and nobody talked about it.

Don't you think this would have affected how people voted?

Wouldn't this have been enough to cancel the election, or at least put it on hold while Trump's candidacy was judged to be illegitimate?

I think yes. So why was this held under wraps in October?
Why is it still not being brought out even now?








BumRushDaShow

(128,442 posts)
16. This is probably the only way to get the ball started
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 09:42 PM
Mar 2017

notably because the GOP in Congress are compromised. But it will require the DOJ to get one empaneled....

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
23. Schiff didn't call for a GJ
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:06 PM
Mar 2017

What he said was that the evidence he's seen would be comparable to the kind of evidence that a prosecutor could bring to a GJ.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
37. great point! He was not suggesting a grand jury, but more indicating how strong the
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 02:56 PM
Mar 2017

information was.

He himself was a prosecutor for many years.

This is not the kind of crime that should be cordoned off to a darkened room, and representative Adam Schiff clearly recognizes that as well.

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
25. SCHIFF CALLED ON THE PUBLIC TO DEMAND AN OPEN HEARING
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:05 PM
Mar 2017

call these people:

Devin Nunes, California, Chair
Mike Conaway, Texas
Peter King, New York
Frank LoBiondo, New Jersey
Rick Crawford, Arkansas
Trey Gowdy, South Carolina
Tom Rooney, Florida
Will Hurd, Texas
Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, Florida
Mike Turner, Ohio
Brad Wenstrup, Ohio
Chris Stewart, Utah
Elise Stefanik, New York
Adam Schiff, California, Ranking Member
Jim Himes, Connecticut
Terri Sewell, Alabama
André Carson, Indiana
Jackie Speier, California
Mike Quigley, Illinois
Eric Swalwell, California
Joaquin Castro, Texas
Denny Heck, Washington

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
27. Send pm to your rep at his or her site, tell them to hit the floor and not leave it until we have
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 12:09 PM
Mar 2017

hearings.

I did

PatrickforO

(14,558 posts)
34. Treason.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 01:15 PM
Mar 2017

These right wing demagogues are treasonous fucks, all. All they want to do is ruin everything that is decent. They have perverted the concept of 'patriotism' to mean the biggest bully on the playground, and now they are going to pay.

Good.

Fuck them.

Kablooie

(18,610 posts)
36. Will any of this be directly linked to Trump though?
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 03:04 AM
Mar 2017

It would be awful if all these underlings were indicted but he remains unscathed.

 

Akamai

(1,779 posts)
38. There is in the law culpability for those who should have known what was going on.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 02:58 PM
Mar 2017

that is, if one is the head of a corporation (or an army) which is doing terrible things, one cannot simply state that one does not know what was going on and so therefore one is not responsible.

cstanleytech

(26,233 posts)
39. What I dont get is why the secrecy if he knows something why not speak about it on the floor in the
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 02:41 AM
Mar 2017

the open as didnt certain Repugnant politicians do something similar in their efforts to hurt Hillary and Obama and were they not immune from being prosecuted for it because they have legal protection when speaking on the floor?

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