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NYT correspondent tweet: Trump is going to blame the Democrats, says Obama will "explode"! (Original Post) Idoru Mar 2017 OP
hell, why not blame rosie o'donnell? democrats have zero power in the house and obama is retired. unblock Mar 2017 #1
Obama is going to explode? nolabear Mar 2017 #2
THAT would be news Idoru Mar 2017 #3
Maybe he's confusing him with Luther BeyondGeography Mar 2017 #4
They are talking about the surveillance story about Obama bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #5
I think he meant Obamacare is going to explode. Which it is not. randome Mar 2017 #6
Ok, that at least makes sense Idoru Mar 2017 #7
Trump did tell the IRS to stop enforcing the mandate. herding cats Mar 2017 #9
Sure, but that leaves a very visible hole that can't be obfuscated. randome Mar 2017 #11
Trump is the sole one responsible, actually. herding cats Mar 2017 #13
Yeah, they will try that. But hopefully Dolt45's string of failures will brand them all the same. randome Mar 2017 #15
Yes, he made suchan order. Now let's see him enforce it. bornskeptic Mar 2017 #16
How Is This the Democrats' Fault erpowers Mar 2017 #8
I guess it's because the Dems OldHippieChick Mar 2017 #10
Let's see: H2O Man Mar 2017 #12
Fantastical delusion C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #14
 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. I think he meant Obamacare is going to explode. Which it is not.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:10 PM
Mar 2017

I don't think we appreciate how utterly masterful Obama was in crafting the ACA. It is so comprehensive that it necessarily is hideously complex yet other than universal care, it really is the best step forward with funding mechanisms and coverage options.

Masterful.
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Idoru

(167 posts)
7. Ok, that at least makes sense
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:12 PM
Mar 2017

Except it hasn't and it won't, of course.

He lives in his own reality where everyone hates Obama and all his success as much as he does.

herding cats

(19,549 posts)
9. Trump did tell the IRS to stop enforcing the mandate.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:14 PM
Mar 2017

That'll have a drastic effect on the ACA as it's currently structured.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
11. Sure, but that leaves a very visible hole that can't be obfuscated.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:17 PM
Mar 2017

What happens when it's reported that not enforcing the mandate is the cause of stress on the ACA? I don't see how the GOP can deny its culpability.
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herding cats

(19,549 posts)
13. Trump is the sole one responsible, actually.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:23 PM
Mar 2017

It was an EO. But, they're going to go the route of people wanted the mandate gone, so Trump removed it. If Democrats would have worked with us to pass our AHCA (which we all know was horrible, but the voters never felt an impact from), then this wouldn't be taking place now.

Wait for it.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
15. Yeah, they will try that. But hopefully Dolt45's string of failures will brand them all the same.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:39 PM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.
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bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
16. Yes, he made suchan order. Now let's see him enforce it.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:13 PM
Mar 2017

I culd be wrong, but I'm fairly confident that the president can't unilaterally cancel the mandate. It doesn't make sense that Democrats, in writing the bill, would have left something that important vulnerable to executive whim. The IRS says the executive order is being reviewed, but taxpayers who owe a penalty are still directed to submit it with their return.
Making a Shared Responsibility Payment



If you do not have qualifying coverage or an exemption for each month of the year, you will need to make a payment with your return.
•Determine if you need to make a payment
•Reporting and Calculating your payment
•Shared Responsibility Payment Estimator


https://www.irs.gov/affordable-care-act/individuals-and-families

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
8. How Is This the Democrats' Fault
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:13 PM
Mar 2017

The Democrats had nothing to do with this. It is not the fault of the Democrats that Paul Ryan could not get his party in line. What, did Trump want Nancy Pelosi to go and round up the votes for Ryan?

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
10. I guess it's because the Dems
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:15 PM
Mar 2017

did not prepare the Repukniks for how hard it is to govern. Right now Ryan is whining that they were used to being the opposition party and it is hard work to be the governing party. Holy shit! What babies.

H2O Man

(73,333 posts)
12. Let's see:
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:20 PM
Mar 2017

How is Trump likely to react to a humiliating defeat? Take personal responsibility? Or blabber nonsense about President Obama?

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