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The reason the bill failed: (Original Post) JHan Mar 2017 OP
future know nothing party MFM008 Mar 2017 #1
Trumpcare was not a healthcare bill it was an ideological manifesto Thomas Hurt Mar 2017 #2
Well stated. nt. NCTraveler Mar 2017 #3
Yes winetourdriver01 Mar 2017 #4
And a tax cut. coti Mar 2017 #6
yep +++ JHan Mar 2017 #7
I see this as just a moral victory... HopeAgain Mar 2017 #5
That's part of it jmowreader Mar 2017 #8
I don't think that's entirely fair mythology Mar 2017 #9
that is the op in much kinder language. JHan Mar 2017 #10

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
2. Trumpcare was not a healthcare bill it was an ideological manifesto
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:14 PM
Mar 2017

of spite directed at the Dem party, and Obama in particular.

 

winetourdriver01

(1,154 posts)
4. Yes
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:18 PM
Mar 2017

I agree with you on that. However, their real long term goal is a cull of the poor in the usa. They want a much lower population.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
5. I see this as just a moral victory...
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:19 PM
Mar 2017

They have two more years to keep screwing everything up. My hope is that this inspires more people to get out there and speak up. Without the fear of the moderates, this bill would have passed and it would have looked like the Freedumb Caucus wrote it...

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
8. That's part of it
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:20 PM
Mar 2017

The whole reason: EVERYONE despised this bill.

The Koch Brothers couldn't stand it because they thought it "extended Obamacare."

The Democrats hated it because it was an atrocious piece of work.

The House Lipton Caucus hated it because it wouldn't kill enough people.

And the House Wants To Be Reelected Caucus hated it because it would kill too many.

The only one who actually liked it is Donald Trump.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
9. I don't think that's entirely fair
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 04:54 PM
Mar 2017

The bill failed because they couldn't find a common ground between the edges of their party. Some of the no votes were against it because it didn't fuck over enough people. Others, particularly in the Senate were against it because it fucked over too many people (particularly groups likely to vote Republican).

It speaks to the biggest impediment for Republicans. Part of their party is too ideologically opposed to government to effectively govern (unless it's about things like making women/minorities/poor people second class citizens). But part of it is still about more traditional Republicanism. The loudest part of their base spent the last 8 years throwing a temper tantrum about Obama and insisting that their elected officials. It insisted that Democrats were all evil and unamerican. I think there's a lesson in that for Democrats as well although not to the same extent since the further left doesn't think that all government is evil and so aren't trying to blow it up.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
10. that is the op in much kinder language.
Fri Mar 24, 2017, 05:10 PM
Mar 2017

I'm not seeing where we differ on this.

The Bill did not pass because the hard right did not get what they want - and what they wanted is much worse than what was already a horrific bill. As you accurately note, for years republicans ( of ALL stripes) complained about Obamacare, even making repeal a focal point of the elections. Some of these same republicans who disliked the AHCA voted to repeal obamacare when they knew Obama would veto the repeal, instead of trying to fix it.. and in the face of resistance and unpopularity among their constituents they've had no choice to trash the bill publicly. The GOP is a hot mess.

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