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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsthe meeting was in Sept of 2016. This could be fake news. Please check your facts
Chevy
(1,063 posts)Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Nunes was mentioned as attending.
This crap is happening so fast, it's hard to keep up.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I don't think a GOP breakfast is going to raise red flags unless there were private meetings too.
Kingofalldems
(38,422 posts)No one can cover for him anymore.
Flynn.
womanofthehills
(8,661 posts)Earlier this week former Donald Trump campaign adviser James Woolsey publicly revealed that he had attended a meeting between Michael Flynn and the Turkish government which involved discussions so legally dubious that he reported it to the U.S. government. But guess who else tagged along for a meeting between Flynn and the Turkish government? House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, who this week inserted himself into the Trump-Russia scandal in bizarre fashion.
To be clear, these were two different meetings. Woolsey says the Flynn-Turkey meeting he attended, in which the kidnapping of Pennsylvania resident Fethullah Gülen was discussed, took place in the summer of 2016. But after Donald Trump was named the winner of the election, late in the transition team period, Flynn met with the Turkish government yet again. By this time James Woolsey had already resigned two weeks earlier. So instead, Flynn took another Trump transition team member with him, Devin Nunes.
Its not publicly known what was discussed during the Flynn-Nunes-Turkey meeting on January 18th. But confirmation of the meeting has been hiding in plain sight all along. Earlier today political pundit T. R. Ramachandran posted a lengthy tweet storm (link) which included a reference to a previously overlooked article from Turkish news publication Daily Sabah (link). The article reports that [Turkish] Foreign Minister Mevlüt Çavuşoğlu met with designated U.S. National Security adviser Rt. Gen. Mike Flynn on Wednesday at Trump Hotel in Washington and goes on to add that House Intelligence Committee Congressman Devin Nunes, a Republican heavyweight, also attended the breakfast.
James Woolsey now says that Michael Flynn offered to put him on his consulting payroll during their meeting with Turkey, an offer which Woolsey declined (source: Wall Street Journal). Flynn has since admitted that he was on Turkeys payroll to the tune of half a million dollars during the campaign. This newly unearthed revelation about Flynn and Nunes having also met with Turkey raises a number of new questions about the events weve all witnessed this week. What was the relationship between Flynn and Nunes? Did Flynn also offer money to Nunes, as hed done with Woolsey? Did Nunes have his panicked meltdown this week because he saw his own name in the classified eavesdropping intel that was fed to him?
http://www.palmerreport.com/politics/devin-nunes-michael-flynn-turkey/2054/
byronius
(7,391 posts)Holy cow.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)enid602
(8,594 posts)Wasn't the September incident when James Woolsey visited Flynn, who was having a phone conversation with a Turkish official to arrange an illegal extradition of a Turkish cleric residing in the US?
That's a lie! Nunnes is not a "heavyweight!" hahaha He's a pathetic little prick who sold his soul and integrity to look like a big shot, which he is not. Any guesses on how long before he gets canned from the Intelligence committee? Surely Ryan will throw him under the bus ASAP. When will these idiots learn that any connections to and dealings with Trump are poison?
Chevy
(1,063 posts)unlike some questioning wrong date/right date.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,265 posts)before Trump's inauguration with about 50 other people (here's the original report) is not, on its own, meaningful. You need to know what was discussed.
Chevy
(1,063 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,265 posts)You cannot infer anything from them meeting. Unless you know what was discussed, it means nothing.
lindysalsagal
(20,581 posts)I'd love to know.
notdarkyet
(2,226 posts)pnwmom
(108,955 posts)doesn't have a position that would normally have him serving as a kind of diplomat.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,265 posts)(it's a pro-government paper). With 50 other people. This tells us nothing. They wanted the world to know that Trump's regime talks to them. For a NATO ally, that's not unusual. It's not being 'outed'.
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)the Russian ambassador during the convention -- and then claimed he did so only as a member of the committee.
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/321948-armed-services-committee-dem-our-members-dont-meet-with-russian-ambassadors
The Washington Post noted that it called all 26 members of the Senate committee to confirm whether any other member had met with Kislyak.
The 20 senators who responded said they did not meet with the Russian ambassador last year. The report did not indicate whether McCaskill was one of the respondents.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)especially one of this mind boggling magnitud was developed slowly with many tentacles, each developing their own part. Nunes has zero credibility.
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)spanone
(135,791 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)A. He must step down as Oversight Chair IMMEDIATELY!
B. We must have an independent special prosecutor.
C. If Paul Ryan was aware of the Nunes meeting, HE needs to step down as speaker.
Chevy
(1,063 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)McConnell is a nasty old corrupt politician, but he knows enough to keep as far away from Trump and do as little as possible to be associated with him.
Chevy
(1,063 posts)may say different.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,311 posts)C_U_L8R
(44,987 posts)Docreed2003
(16,850 posts)WheelWalker
(8,954 posts)was to inform about surveillance NOT related to Russia. That WOULD include Turkey. Nunes found out Flynn flipped. Oh my.
flamingdem
(39,308 posts)That is delish
How is it that Schiff didn't get to see it? If Ryan saw it he should too.
uponit7771
(90,301 posts)... about to be closed in on.
TGTBT imho
WheelWalker
(8,954 posts)That's what sent Nunes into a midweek tailspin.
CitizenZero
(505 posts)Nunes is working for the Trump Regime, not the American People. He is supposed to be investigating Trump and his Cronies, but he is one of the Cronies himself. Imagine if the Mob was being investigated by their own Consigliere. Nunes needs to step down or recuse himself from this investigation. He is now part of the cover-up.
Nunes is unfit to serve as the head of the House Intel Committee. He has cancelled next week's open meeting with Yates and others. He is keeping his fellow committee members in the dark and he is reporting to the very person under investigation- Trump and his Associates.
Nunes is colluding with Trump and also obstructing justice. He needs to be out of the Intel Committee and maybe even under investigation himself. We need an Independent Prosecutor or a Select Committee. Thank God for Schiff, otherwise we would have been completely in the dark.
Impeach, Oppose, Resist.
Delphinus
(11,825 posts)He is part of this and cannot be trusted
Love your last line: Impeach, Oppose, Resist.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Crazy
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Tom Rinaldo
(22,911 posts)This is where the quotes come from. But some at the twitter feed there have pointed this out also:
"Different mtgs This breakfast w/ Nunes = Jan 2017 WSJ: Woolsey's mtg w/ Flynn was "in New York on Sept.19"
The kidnapping was talked about in Washington. Still, the web gets wider.
Here is the story:
FM Çavuşoğlu meets Trumps top national security advisor
RAGIP SOYLU
@ragipsoylu
WASHINGTON D.C.
Published January 18, 2017
https://www.dailysabah.com/diplomacy/2017/01/18/fm-cavusoglu-meets-trumps-top-national-security-advisor
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)You do it piece by piece. You check out what fits and what does not. If a piece doesn't fit one place you put it aside and try it again on another section. So it will be with this situation. As people and events are revealed, we may find that nothing makes sense until we are near the end.
I say keep the pieces until we know what matters and what does not.
Nunes acts like a nervous little weasel. He may be pure as the driven snow, but I bet not. He knows stuff that will help solve this mess. Who, what, when, how and where..... as any good journalist knows.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)and then go from there..........so I circle my wagon of suspects and then decide who is guilty.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)I do jigsaw puzzles on my iPad and it is a fun pastime for me. Oddly enough, I am not so enamored with real jigsaw puzzles. I have family members who LOVE THEM and make it a group activity.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)the more stressed I get the more digital puzzles I do. If I did the real ones, I'd be broke!
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)And get offered a free one daily. Glad it is on my iPad because I don't have to worry about spreading it out and putting it away. Can do them in the car, airplane, etc. Also in bed. Great stress reducer and time killer!
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)That sounds really cool! I'm going to have to check that out! Thanks for sharing even though I kinda barged into y'all's conversation.
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)need it.
George II
(67,782 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Fucking Bold Stupidity.
Wow, Nunes, I bet the Donald really appreciates you now!!! Hahaha
Nixon's cronies did him much better!
Idiot!
Resign and save your family embarrassment
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)L. Coyote
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VOX
(22,976 posts)Lock 'em up? Hell, start tying nooses.
Stinky The Clown
(67,761 posts)The magic being that the rumors turn into facts in short order!
After Nunes goes, Ryan wouldn't put Trey in charge, would he?
Chevy
(1,063 posts)calimary
(81,110 posts)We used to call them "gang bangs" - where you see the gaggle of reporters and the mic stands or mics set up on the lectern or some such waiting for the interviewee to step to the front. I couldn't help noticing how ill at ease he looks in the spotlight like that. Looks like he doesn't want to be there, and like he knows he's got to choose his words carefully.
The lower-level "president's men" are the ones who usually wind up going to prison. That's how it worked out during Watergate and Iran/Contra.
longship
(40,416 posts)Reminds me of those kiddie puzzles. Connect the dots.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Trump has never been in the 'inner loop' of Republican party.
lark
(23,061 posts)Yes, Idi Amin was pure evil, but is drumpf and his constitution wrecking crew any better, besides in sheer body count, so far?
Nunes is their ace in the hole to prevent any real investigation and has to be taken out of the equation. Just wonder what he and Manafort and Carter Page have cooked up for next week. You know it's something pre-planned and aimed at providing cover for drumpf's and their treachery to our country.
rtracey
(2,062 posts)Of course he is involved, thats why he jumped so fast to throw blame elsewhere. Fuckump really has major problems here, and funny how they NEVER believed this would all come out.... now I hope heads roll..
ffr
(22,665 posts)Let us never have another time period where we allow republicans to rule all four branches of government.
Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.