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SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 10:53 PM Mar 2017

Never thought I'd type these words but Maureen Dowd wrote a hell of a column for Sunday's NYT


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/25/opinion/sunday/donald-this-i-will-tell-you.html?_r=0

An excerpt:


WASHINGTON — Dear Donald,

We’ve known each other a long time, so I think I can be blunt.

You know how you said at campaign rallies that you did not like being identified as a politician?

Don’t worry. No one will ever mistake you for a politician.

After this past week, they won’t even mistake you for a top-notch negotiator.


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Never thought I'd type these words but Maureen Dowd wrote a hell of a column for Sunday's NYT (Original Post) SticksnStones Mar 2017 OP
heeheehee luvMIdog Mar 2017 #1
Yup. SticksnStones Mar 2017 #4
NYT commenters are even funnier FakeNoose Mar 2017 #64
I was a little wary about reading the entire column because I'm skylucy Mar 2017 #2
Credit where credit is due - Dowd nailed it. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #3
It was brutal... SticksnStones Mar 2017 #5
Oh I certainly hope so. They do know each other so it's possible it'll catch his attention.. beam me up scottie Mar 2017 #9
READ? Soxfan58 Mar 2017 #29
.. SticksnStones Mar 2017 #30
Assuming he reads at all is a big leap. Raine1967 Mar 2017 #49
True that, AND she referred to Paul Ryan as the "Irish undertaker." ROFL!!! calimary Mar 2017 #60
MoDo has a sharp pen dipped in acid. She's still calling Ryan "the Irish Undertaker," I see... Hekate Mar 2017 #6
She has so often pointed that pen at dems... SticksnStones Mar 2017 #7
Not being a fan, I will rec this anyway, because it's excellent. mountain grammy Mar 2017 #8
Her excellence is rare, I agree SticksnStones Mar 2017 #10
I'll give her credit for one thing... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #11
And it still was within 20-30 votes of passing exboyfil Mar 2017 #26
Wow-- quite a piece!! ailsagirl Mar 2017 #12
I despise this woman, but sometimes, despite being an ass, she can be witty. NNadir Mar 2017 #13
That's really something! Thanks for posting. SharonAnn Mar 2017 #14
Going to leave a mark, didn't know you could tattoo in neon. grantcart Mar 2017 #15
she points out the truth in this one.. Cha Mar 2017 #16
"And I can say youre doing badly, because Im a columnist, and youre not. " crazylikafox Mar 2017 #17
My favorite line! Pacifist Patriot Mar 2017 #40
Wow! That is some kind of EPIC burn... Tatiana Mar 2017 #18
I'm thinking of having it framed, suitable for hanging SticksnStones Mar 2017 #28
+1, she torched his ass... Spot on calling him a flim flam man uponit7771 Mar 2017 #38
now that she sees what has happened, she might have sobered up and FINALLY understands CTyankee Mar 2017 #47
That column does have a sense of sobriety, doesn't it? Tatiana Mar 2017 #55
She's wrong More_Cowbell Mar 2017 #19
+1 bigtree Mar 2017 #33
Paul Ryan wrote the healthcare bill FakeNoose Mar 2017 #61
"Remember how you didn't like being identified as a politician? ... StrictlyRockers Mar 2017 #20
Right on. Kath2 Mar 2017 #21
wow, still have an issue with her over Iraq Demonaut Mar 2017 #22
I'm no fan of hers by any stretch but she takes down the whole crew SticksnStones Mar 2017 #25
my favorite "...that Irish Undertaker..'" Raster Mar 2017 #39
KNR Lucinda Mar 2017 #23
OH my. Maru Kitteh Mar 2017 #24
( I always hear 'oh my' in George takei's voice) SticksnStones Mar 2017 #27
Excellent column. Thanks Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #31
"...you sold the D.O.A. bill the Irish undertaker gave you..." Raster Mar 2017 #32
Bam! Pow! Kaboom! SticksnStones Mar 2017 #34
And Freddie Mar 2017 #35
.. SticksnStones Mar 2017 #36
+1, she torched his ass uponit7771 Mar 2017 #37
Got around to reading it. It's anti-Trump enough, but frankly, it's Dowdy Dowd... NNadir Mar 2017 #41
I wouldn't ever expect a deep dive from Dowd. That's not her beat. SticksnStones Mar 2017 #43
Her problem is that she trashes everyone. NNadir Mar 2017 #50
"We can figure out who Trump is quite nicely without Moron Dowdy." LenaBaby61 Mar 2017 #63
Yup. Trumps skill is not dealmaking with powerful counterparts. It is duping gullible victims. Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #42
Brilliant Column...well written. Stuart G Mar 2017 #44
I too never thought I'd admire a Dowd column NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #45
Tweet-to-come: "Failing New York Times..." in 5..4..3..2..1 BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #46
Haven't liked her, but this is probably in her top three. ancianita Mar 2017 #48
Bee-yoo-ti-ful! cilla4progress Mar 2017 #51
Yeah TheFerret Mar 2017 #52
She gives him too much credit... Perseus Mar 2017 #53
Even a stopped clock is right twice a day mdbl Mar 2017 #54
Fuck Dowd BainsBane Mar 2017 #56
She's an excellent writer with a brilliant mind. Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #57
Well, I don't know that I'd go quite that far... SticksnStones Mar 2017 #58
I can disagree with someone and still think the person is brilliant & a good writer. Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #59
I found this column mildly amusing. Others have done better. kwassa Mar 2017 #62
I like her but she lost me at "Bannon is an anarchist." Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #65

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
4. Yup.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 11:06 PM
Mar 2017

Although she does seem to absolve herself from any involvement in getting him in to the WH.

She was brutal when writing about the Clintons.

Trump is her fault too.

Still, the column is spot on...like a dem wrote it!

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
64. NYT commenters are even funnier
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:59 PM
Mar 2017

I skimmed the first 50 or so comments on this article (in the NY Times) and not one had a positive thing to say about Donald Trump or the GOP. Those commenters all sounded like they were DU regulars!


skylucy

(3,737 posts)
2. I was a little wary about reading the entire column because I'm
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 11:03 PM
Mar 2017

not a fan of Dowd either, but wow. She annihilated Trump.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
5. It was brutal...
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 11:08 PM
Mar 2017

I wonder if he'll read it?

Certainly hope so... Although I know his weekends are rather full with all his tee times that perhaps he won't see it until Monday or so ~

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
9. Oh I certainly hope so. They do know each other so it's possible it'll catch his attention..
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 11:28 PM
Mar 2017

Get ready for tweets about FAKE NEWS!!! Or another lawsuit.

Neither Twitler nor his fan club understand the difference between news and opinion.

Hekate

(90,564 posts)
6. MoDo has a sharp pen dipped in acid. She's still calling Ryan "the Irish Undertaker," I see...
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 11:09 PM
Mar 2017

Somebody else (Charles Pierce, I think) calls him "the zombie-eyed granny starver," but I recall MoDo's impressions from several years back and they were not kind. He reminded her of a "type" from her own Irish-American community -- an undertaker just oozing insincerity as he metaphorically picks your pockets.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
7. She has so often pointed that pen at dems...
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 11:15 PM
Mar 2017

Last edited Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:06 AM - Edit history (1)

And the Clintons in particular. It's interesting to have her take aim at anyone who's not named Clinton.

And in such a brutally honest fashion.

I applaude her~

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
10. Her excellence is rare, I agree
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 11:30 PM
Mar 2017

But this column is one of those moments. And the comments folks are leaving seem to agree with her.

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
11. I'll give her credit for one thing...
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 11:38 PM
Mar 2017

she's one of the few who pointed out that the real reason the Deplorable Care Act failed was because it was a crap bill.

They didn't even really try to disguise what it really was, and huge tax cut for the top 1%.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
26. And it still was within 20-30 votes of passing
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:42 AM
Mar 2017

$35B/yr. taken out of the system which is equivalent to 400,000 nurses. I tried to explain it my mom (a Trump voter) this week, but it didn't register.

ailsagirl

(22,887 posts)
12. Wow-- quite a piece!!
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:19 AM
Mar 2017

One reader commented...

WOW, thanks for being blunt. Your pen is a sharp
instrument, and never more deftly wielded.


NNadir

(33,475 posts)
13. I despise this woman, but sometimes, despite being an ass, she can be witty.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 12:36 AM
Mar 2017

I stopped reading her years ago, around the time she offered her mindless opinion that the 2000 election was more about Al Gore's suit than about the lives of human beings - the tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis might beg to differ.

I did glance at her hatred of Hillary Clinton a few times - it was unsurprising, and boring - but, maybe I'll take a look in tomorrow's Times.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
18. Wow! That is some kind of EPIC burn...
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:16 AM
Mar 2017

I loathe MoDo with the force of a thousand suns.

But this column is thing of beauty.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
28. I'm thinking of having it framed, suitable for hanging
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:48 AM
Mar 2017

And perhaps print out copies and have them at the ready to tuck on the windshield of every car with a Trump bumper sticker I see in parking lots around my very red county.



CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
47. now that she sees what has happened, she might have sobered up and FINALLY understands
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:01 PM
Mar 2017

what we've been saying all along.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
55. That column does have a sense of sobriety, doesn't it?
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:44 PM
Mar 2017

I really hope she gets it. We could use someone like her on our side.

More_Cowbell

(2,190 posts)
19. She's wrong
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:25 AM
Mar 2017

When she says that the "Massive transfer of wealth to rich people" agenda was not Trump's. That's ALL he cares about.

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
61. Paul Ryan wrote the healthcare bill
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:40 PM
Mar 2017

... before Trump was even chosen as the GOP candidate.

So in a way she's right, it's Ryan's shame and disaster more than Trump's.
But really Trump and Ryan are partners on this failure.



StrictlyRockers

(3,855 posts)
20. "Remember how you didn't like being identified as a politician? ...
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 01:28 AM
Mar 2017



"Remember how you didn't like being identified as a politician?
Don’t worry. No one will ever mistake you for one."

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
25. I'm no fan of hers by any stretch but she takes down the whole crew
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:37 AM
Mar 2017

in this piece~

Like this

...you dragged that motley skeleton crew into the White House and let them create a feuding, leaking, belligerent, conspiratorial, sycophantic atmosphere.


and this
You knew the Republicans were full of hot air. They haven’t had to pass anything in a long time, and they have no aptitude for governing.


And my personal favorite, this

You knew that Paul Ryan’s vaunted reputation as a policy wonk was fake news.


SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
34. Bam! Pow! Kaboom!
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:15 AM
Mar 2017

You knew that Paul Ryan’s vaunted reputation as a policy wonk was fake news.


Oh Paul...no longer the great republican wunderkind ~

Freddie

(9,257 posts)
35. And
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:34 AM
Mar 2017

"the G.O.P. falls into clover with a lock on the White House and both houses of Congress, and what’s the first thing it does? Slip on a banana peel."

Keep slipping! I love bananas 🍌

NNadir

(33,475 posts)
41. Got around to reading it. It's anti-Trump enough, but frankly, it's Dowdy Dowd...
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:19 PM
Mar 2017

...sneering fluff with no real substance.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
43. I wouldn't ever expect a deep dive from Dowd. That's not her beat.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:49 PM
Mar 2017

The interest in her column this week is its thoroughness in trashing the current administration and majority holding party.

That's all, I believe.

NNadir

(33,475 posts)
50. Her problem is that she trashes everyone.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:19 PM
Mar 2017

What she wrote here isn't particularly more skewering that what she wrote about Hillary Clinton or Al Gore.

If she turned up the heat on Trump to the exclusion of the people she's mocked - mindlessly mocked - it might be impressive.

But it isn't.

The problem is that she writes from a self assumed position of superiority when in fact, she lacks even a shred of substance.

We can figure out who Trump is quite nicely without Moron Dowdy.

LenaBaby61

(6,973 posts)
63. "We can figure out who Trump is quite nicely without Moron Dowdy."
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:56 PM
Mar 2017

Totally agree with you

Moron Dowdy who?



Bernardo de La Paz

(48,965 posts)
42. Yup. Trumps skill is not dealmaking with powerful counterparts. It is duping gullible victims.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 04:43 PM
Mar 2017

David Frum tweet:   ?"Regular reminder that Donald Trump’s core competency is not dealmaking with powerful counter-parties. It is duping gullible victims."

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
45. I too never thought I'd admire a Dowd column
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 05:13 PM
Mar 2017

but this one is brilliant. She hits Dump where it hurts: his ego. I wish she would have mocked his tiny...um...hands, but we can't have everything.

I have to admit she's a good writer. I just wish she could have aimed her writing skill at people other than Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, and many other Democrats.

 

Perseus

(4,341 posts)
53. She gives him too much credit...
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:16 PM
Mar 2017

"You were so concerned with the “win” that you forgot your “forgotten” Americans, the older, poorer people in rural areas who would be hurt by the bill."

He did not forget, he has never cared.

"A negotiator"??? Anyone who was paying attention knew he was not a negotiator, but a con man.

"You’re all about flashy marketing so you didn’t notice that the bill was junk, so lame that even Republicans skittered away." Lets be real, he never read it...He would not be able to safe his life if he had to explain what was in that bill.

"You sold yourself as the businessman who could shake things up and make Washington work again. Instead, you got worked over by the Republican leadership and the business community, who set you up to do their bidding." Nobody set him up, he stayed in the race just to win to feed his ego, he set himself up by not understanding his huge shortcomings.

I am still trying to understand how anyone could have fallen for that guy, it had to be hate for Hillary and nothing else.

SticksnStones

(2,108 posts)
58. Well, I don't know that I'd go quite that far...
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:14 PM
Mar 2017

She beats up on the Clintons relentlessly...that makes her less than brilliant in my book.

But this particular column was impactful I think.

Perhaps it's as close as she can get to a penance of some sort ~

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
59. I can disagree with someone and still think the person is brilliant & a good writer.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:22 PM
Mar 2017

I can also agree with someone and think they're writing skills suck and they're none too swift in the head.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
62. I found this column mildly amusing. Others have done better.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:53 PM
Mar 2017

Takedowns by some of the Republican columnists that hate Trump are priceless. Michael Gerson, George Will, Kathleen Parker. Devastating.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
65. I like her but she lost me at "Bannon is an anarchist."
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:23 AM
Mar 2017

She's smarter than that. Bannon doesn't fit with anarchist philosophy at all. Shame on her.

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