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Joy Reid: Excerpts from Steele memo... (Original Post) iluvtennis Mar 2017 OP
So much of Steele's dossier has been confirmed by now. Everything except the part pnwmom Mar 2017 #1
The gross part is quite potential relevant... JenniferJuniper Mar 2017 #3
Yes, the threat of blackmail is huge. You may be too young (that's a compliment!!!)... George II Mar 2017 #15
I am too young to remember Christine but JenniferJuniper Mar 2017 #17
Oh, I care! Because the Righteous Right needs it rubbed in their faces, you should pardon the WinkyDink Mar 2017 #22
K&R BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #2
Remember the effort by dRumpf's team at the repug convention.... lastlib Mar 2017 #18
I finally found another instance of this attempt to quash (from the RNC convention) BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #25
I watched that part of the video. I was interested in a number of things. Chiyo-chichi Mar 2017 #33
Yeah I have been trying to scan through the videos BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #34
I commend you for trying to research this. Chiyo-chichi Mar 2017 #35
Source E is clearly Boris Epshteyn scheming daemons Mar 2017 #4
Good hypothesis. iluvtennis Mar 2017 #6
That makes the most sense to me too. nt GliderGuider Mar 2017 #9
Yes, cilla4progress Mar 2017 #10
yep, "ethnic Russian" Ligyron Mar 2017 #13
Not Erovinkin? (n/t) thesquanderer Mar 2017 #19
It was most likely Erovinkin Vinnie From Indy Mar 2017 #27
Bingo! NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #29
So...Putin using Trump as a Russian spy? Cracklin Charlie Mar 2017 #5
I am curious about who were "agents/facilitators within Democratic Party structure"???? wishstar Mar 2017 #7
If you think about it, it's pretty obvious Generic Brad Mar 2017 #8
I have ideas, but not sure if I'm correct. DangerousRhythm Mar 2017 #11
hint? flamingdem Mar 2017 #20
I have an idea and they have shown all of their tax returns either uponit7771 Mar 2017 #31
What specifically makes it "pretty obvious?" LanternWaste Mar 2017 #38
That is a very good question. paleotn Mar 2017 #14
Was the $50 million profit paid to trump for a property to fund his campaign? L. Coyote Mar 2017 #12
It makes sense bucolic_frolic Mar 2017 #16
Yes, those were the obvious ones the waving hand was the second obvious uponit7771 Mar 2017 #32
Steele is legit, no reason any longer to doubt the pee tapes. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #21
Agree...Been legit forever nt iluvtennis Mar 2017 #23
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2017 #24
K&R! gademocrat7 Mar 2017 #26
Michael Steele has this information? Ohhhh, you mean Christopher Steele SharonClark Mar 2017 #28
WOW Gothmog Mar 2017 #30
"Firstly there were agents within the Democratic Party structure itself..." librechik Mar 2017 #36
Yes indeed. NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #37

pnwmom

(108,925 posts)
1. So much of Steele's dossier has been confirmed by now. Everything except the part
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:22 PM
Mar 2017

no DUer cares about, because we already know how gross he is.

George II

(67,782 posts)
15. Yes, the threat of blackmail is huge. You may be too young (that's a compliment!!!)...
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:38 PM
Mar 2017

....but google "Christine Keeler". In 1963 she had an affair with a British MP who eventually resigned and the affair discredited the Harold McMillan government, rendering it virtually ineffective.

JenniferJuniper

(4,495 posts)
17. I am too young to remember Christine but
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:46 PM
Mar 2017

I'm a Phil Ochs fan!

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WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
22. Oh, I care! Because the Righteous Right needs it rubbed in their faces, you should pardon the
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 10:40 PM
Mar 2017

expression.

lastlib

(22,978 posts)
18. Remember the effort by dRumpf's team at the repug convention....
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 09:30 PM
Mar 2017

...to quash the platform plank standing up for Ukraine against Russia?? It was the only plank they cared about, and they were adamant that it had to be kept out! That fits right in with the claim by the Steele memo that Drumpf was co-operating with Russia to sabotage the Clinton campaign.

Seals the deal for me, and I know there's more! This basturd's gotta go down! . .

BumRushDaShow

(127,251 posts)
25. I finally found another instance of this attempt to quash (from the RNC convention)
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 07:22 AM
Mar 2017
https://www.c-span.org/video/?412506-101/republican-national-committee-platform-hearings-part-2&start=538#

Unidentified Speaker >> PAGE ONE LINE 32-35.

Unidentified Speaker >> THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. MY AMENDMENT WOULD STRIKE OUT THE LANGUAGE TO THE EVENT -- THE REASON FOR STRIKING OUT THIS LANGUAGE IS RONALD REAGAN DID A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK TO TRY TO KEEP US OUT OF A HOT WAR WITH RUSSIA. WE SHOULD KEEP IN MIND RUSSIA IS A NUCLEAR SUPERPOWER AND WHAT WE ARE SPILLING OUT HERE, SANCTIONS AND ARMING THEIR ENEMIES, THOSE ARE ACTS OF WAR. AND UNLESS WE ARE PREPARED TO GO TO WAR WITH A NUCLEAR SUPERPOWER, I THINK WE NEED TO BE A LOT MORE CAUTIOUS ABOUT DECLARING OUR INTENTION TO DO OF WAR AGAINST THEM. SO I THINK THIS STATEMENT IS OVERLY AGGRESSIVE AND I DO NOT THINK IT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF OUR NATION TO BE DECLARING THIS, IN SO I RECOMMEND WE STRIKE THIS LANGUAGE FROM THE PLATFORM.

Unidentified Speaker >> THE AMENDMENT CALLS FOR STRIKING LINES 32-35. CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMITTEE?

Unidentified Speaker >> WE DEBATED THIS FULLY YESTERDAY DURING THE MEETING AND IT WAS DEFEATED AND I WOULD ASK THAT WE DEFEATED AGAIN TODAY. AND YOU. ASK DELEGATE FROM NEW YORK.

Unidentified Speaker >> CYCLE IN QUESTION. QUESTION HAS BEEN CALLED. I WANT TO VOTE IMMEDIATELY. THE MOTION IS UP FOR DEBATE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION FROM THE DELEGATE...


The CSPAN-recorded proceedings mentioned above from the day before, were corrupted (although still available but without a transcript), but I was able to find the above 2nd attempt to change that amendment... The link goes right to the portion where the above takes place.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,562 posts)
33. I watched that part of the video. I was interested in a number of things.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:09 AM
Mar 2017

Mainly... who did they get to introduce this change?

The "unidentified speaker" above is Maine State Senator Eric Brakey. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Brakey
Why him??
He just did this of his own volition? I seriously doubt it.

And this was the second attempt? And the proposal to strike it was soundly defeated here.

It took three (or more?) attempts to soften the language on Russia in the platform?

Is there no video or transcript of them actually approving the amended language?

Who introduced the language that passed?

BumRushDaShow

(127,251 posts)
34. Yeah I have been trying to scan through the videos
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:19 AM
Mar 2017

and haven't had time to get through it all yet to find the final votes. I think much of the earlier stuff was done in the video where the sound was completely mistracked from the video portion (and thus there is no transcript of the proceedings). It's also possible that the final votes were not recorded by CSPAN but am not sure yet..

Chiyo-chichi

(3,562 posts)
35. I commend you for trying to research this.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:33 AM
Mar 2017

It really hasn't been reported on thoroughly.

I had no idea the change took multiple attempts. It was clearly defeated in the video you link to above.

And given how this administration operates, I think it is important to know which RNC delegates worked with them to get the language softened. And how did they convince all those "nay" voters to change?

Incidentally, in the relevant section of the video, no names are given by the chair, whereas he does give names when they are on other issues. He simply refers to "the delegate from Maine." I'm not suggesting that this was a conspiracy. Probably just a coincidence that the only name I was interested in wasn't given. I could see that the delegate's first name was "Eric" from his nametag. Had to look up a list of Maine delegates and look up multiple Maine delegates named Eric to ID him. Brakey was Maine's state director for Ron Paul in 2012 and led a walkout of some Maine delegates at the 2012 RNC. I gather that he also considers himself an actor. He danced in a Speedo in a commercial for coconut water.

I'd be interested in knowing if you discover more.

This deserves its own thread.

wishstar

(5,267 posts)
7. I am curious about who were "agents/facilitators within Democratic Party structure"????
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 06:56 PM
Mar 2017

I haven't seen any discussion or speculation about this part of the dossier

Generic Brad

(14,270 posts)
8. If you think about it, it's pretty obvious
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 07:06 PM
Mar 2017

But since it is forbidden here to speak ill of fellow Democrats I'm not throwing any names out there.

Just think long and hard about what happened at the DNC during the primary season and what your suspected individuals have been up to publicly since then. They have been very transparent - like the rest of the agents in this operation.

DangerousRhythm

(2,916 posts)
11. I have ideas, but not sure if I'm correct.
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:00 PM
Mar 2017

IF this part is true (and I don't see why not, with all other parts considered), we'd better know who these people are for our own sakes!

It seems logical enough that there might be one or two, unfortunately.

bucolic_frolic

(42,651 posts)
16. It makes sense
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 08:40 PM
Mar 2017

I sometimes post on online discussion/message boards, and over the summer
there were just too many instances of attempts to distort facts and pump
certain positions for Trump from posters who were clearly challenged when
using the English language

SharonClark

(10,005 posts)
28. Michael Steele has this information? Ohhhh, you mean Christopher Steele
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 09:25 AM
Mar 2017

Complete names are important, folks!

librechik

(30,663 posts)
36. "Firstly there were agents within the Democratic Party structure itself..."
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 10:42 AM
Mar 2017

find these and purge them, please

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