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Flush With Victory, Democrats Are in No Hurry to Reconcile (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2017 OP
Guys, I'm happy too, but our "victory" came from our opponents shooting themselves in the foot. Girard442 Mar 2017 #1
No Loki Liesmith Mar 2017 #3
Supporters of the health law popularly known as Obamacare, yortsed snacilbuper Mar 2017 #5
+1 dalton99a Mar 2017 #15
That is unfortunately correct DFW Mar 2017 #14
That's right... Callmecrazy Mar 2017 #2
The GOP intends to "fix" it, all right. The GOP fight is about Hortensis Mar 2017 #19
I got your life preserver right here ... eppur_se_muova Mar 2017 #4
Perfect! CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2017 #6
Perfect. kairos12 Mar 2017 #7
That's very funny! zentrum Mar 2017 #9
You read my mind! workinclasszero Mar 2017 #12
Why would we,,,, Cryptoad Mar 2017 #8
When your opponent is busy digging a hole JBoy Mar 2017 #10
Have to say, not impressed with the article. Makes dems out to be more interested wiggs Mar 2017 #11
yeah exactly. The writer is either lazy or lying. Behaving that way would not be acceptable to JCanete Mar 2017 #18
If you can call that winning pecosbob Mar 2017 #13
The vile asshole is trying to reverse everything Obama did. dalton99a Mar 2017 #16
There has been nothing at this point, put on the table by republicans that is conciliatory. JCanete Mar 2017 #17

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
3. No
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 11:36 PM
Mar 2017

Unified Democratic opposition made it necessary for Republicans to hold onto every vote just to scrape by.

We won because we were unified they were not.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
5. Supporters of the health law popularly known as Obamacare,
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 11:48 PM
Mar 2017

launched an all-out campaign for its survival, keeping Democrats unified in opposition to its repeal, and identifying and exploiting Republican divisions that ultimately forced GOP leaders to pull the bill at the eleventh hour Friday.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
14. That is unfortunately correct
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 02:25 AM
Mar 2017

A unified Democratic opposition would have been useless in the face of a unified Republican Congressional delegation. But with their "leadership," if a rudderless boat can be called that, is as torn by petty infighting by extremist factions unwilling to give a millimeter, they will provide us with the hope we need that their damage will not be as pervasive as it originally threatened to be. They still want to do a lot of evil, but as long as each faction continues to say, "MY evil or no evil," they will be slow to get anything done.

Callmecrazy

(3,065 posts)
2. That's right...
Sun Mar 26, 2017, 11:31 PM
Mar 2017

Even the leadership said it was a victory for America, not the party.
But you know what? The ACA does need some fixing and if the right has a workable solution, I'll listen.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. The GOP intends to "fix" it, all right. The GOP fight is about
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:28 AM
Mar 2017

HOW MUCH they can get away with destroying now. One or two big wrecking ball swings or several smaller incremental dismantlings, hoping people will become resigned and blame the Democrats for creating a healthcare plan that was "collapsing" all by itself anyway.

Even the few more moderate members of Congress who are interested in keeping it under a new name and who would work with us want to make it less, not more. The horrible Ryan bill was designed to cut almost a TRILLION DOLLARS from Obamacare, but they were all going to hold their noses and vote for it.

Nothing to work with there, only oppose.


Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
8. Why would we,,,,
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 01:17 AM
Mar 2017

reconcile with aHoles still going around having rallies chanting "Lock Her Up"???????? Hell NO!

wiggs

(7,810 posts)
11. Have to say, not impressed with the article. Makes dems out to be more interested
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 01:50 AM
Mar 2017

in perennial campaign rather than interested in governing. Dems are not the same as republicans...we don't take stands with just the next election in mind.

Just more horserace reporting.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
18. yeah exactly. The writer is either lazy or lying. Behaving that way would not be acceptable to
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:13 AM
Mar 2017

the Democratic base, which actually wants our politicians to govern, not to simply play politics. The writer's version of compromise is not compromise at all...it is capitulation.

And Sanders was just on Dana Brash, and she was selling the same absolute bullshit about democrats being obstructionists unwilling to work with Trump. It's pretty damn transparent, and I hope there's enough pushback that the media eats shit over this water carrying.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
17. There has been nothing at this point, put on the table by republicans that is conciliatory.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:08 AM
Mar 2017

This MSM bullshit is an embarrassment of journalism. They're going to move the goal posts all the way over to crazy town.
They don't seem to understand or care what compromise is. Compromise is give somebody something and have them give you something, not give somebody something because what he wants is a fuck load more than just that something.

This doesn't look anything at all like McConnell's behavior. Obama tried to sell back to republicans their own effing plans from past years, and they still refused them. Trump has literally attempted to blow up everything that is decent about American government, and has made no ovations to the left at all. This isn't simply a political calculation about making sure Trump is seen as a failure...if he put up something that wasn't determined to cause pestilence, I'm guessing we would support it...but that isn't likely to ever happen.
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