Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
20 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Republicans dont have the votes for the nuclear option. - They know Gorsuch could go down. (Original Post) kpete Mar 2017 OP
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2017 #1
WOW! THANKS! furtheradu Mar 2017 #2
Lots of 'might', 'may be' and 'possibility of' jmg257 Mar 2017 #3
that's awesome, if at all accurate Fast Walker 52 Mar 2017 #4
They can threaten, or they can even do it.. mountain grammy Mar 2017 #5
Gorsuch was reversed 8-0 by this Supreme Court; not so for Merrick Garland. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #6
Kos says Bill Nelson has joined the filibuster. ananda Mar 2017 #7
I saw an earlier thread that said Leahy would not filbuster but tweeted that he would if Justice Mar 2017 #8
This is correct. First, as corrupt as he is, I don't think Mitch McConnell wants TrollBuster9090 Mar 2017 #9
Wishful thinking. onenote Mar 2017 #16
Unfortunately we only have an outside chance of taking the majority back in the Senate... George II Mar 2017 #18
Josh Orton saying it doesn't make it so red dog 1 Mar 2017 #10
The compromise here was always to seat Merrick Garland and THEN consider Gorsuch next... Moostache Mar 2017 #11
Yep. And you're right - it's never going to happen onenote Mar 2017 #15
I wouldn't bet on it. onenote Mar 2017 #12
I got the feeling about a week ago that they won't even get 50 votes. Hope I'm right. George II Mar 2017 #13
I'll be calling Senator Nelson tomorrow mcar Mar 2017 #14
KR! Cha Mar 2017 #17
K&R! Call call call. 202-224-3121. If there's a chance we could tank this, we have to try! JudyM Mar 2017 #19
OMG....to borrow a expression from my youngest. Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #20

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
3. Lots of 'might', 'may be' and 'possibility of'
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 03:55 PM
Mar 2017
Collins is the only Republican senator to express misgivings about the nuclear option thus far.

Following Schumer’s announcement, all three senators have said they are prepared to take whatever steps necessary to confirm Gorsuch, even if it requires the nuclear option, but have also expressed a preference for preserving the rules as they are.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/26/it-could-be-close-counting-to-51-on-the-nuclear-option/#ixzz4cYeXIdB5

mountain grammy

(26,613 posts)
5. They can threaten, or they can even do it..
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 04:17 PM
Mar 2017

as long Democrats don't give in or give it to them.. I'm mailing a postcard to every senate Democrat with one word on it:

FILIBUSTER

ananda

(28,856 posts)
7. Kos says Bill Nelson has joined the filibuster.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 04:57 PM
Mar 2017

Now it's Patrick Leahy's turn.

Come on Leahy. Show some spine and guts!

Justice

(7,185 posts)
8. I saw an earlier thread that said Leahy would not filbuster but tweeted that he would if
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 05:01 PM
Mar 2017

answers were not provided to questions that were posed.

TrollBuster9090

(5,954 posts)
9. This is correct. First, as corrupt as he is, I don't think Mitch McConnell wants
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 05:35 PM
Mar 2017

1. I don't think Mitch McConnell really wants to go down in history as the one who destroyed minority party protections in the Senate. (Especially because they could very well BE the minority in two years!)

2. I ESPECIALLY don't think McConnell wants to go down in history as the one who destroyed the Senate rules in order to make an appointment for A RUSSIAN ASSET that was put in the White House by Putin. (McConnell is corrupt enough to destroy the Senate to please AMERICAN plutocrats, but not RUSSIAN plutocrats.)

3. Even if McConnell could be bribed/threatened/bullied into doing that, I don't think you could round up a whole 51 GOP Senators who want to go down in history as accomplices to this. There are at least two or three left who aren't that corrupt.

onenote

(42,684 posts)
16. Wishful thinking.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 06:29 PM
Mar 2017

They want their replacement for Scalia. And they'll do what it takes to get him. They already stood firm against even having a hearing for Garland, so why wouldn't they push through Gorsuch even if it means going nuclear. What option do they have?

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. Unfortunately we only have an outside chance of taking the majority back in the Senate...
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 08:34 PM
Mar 2017

...we have a much better chance of displacing a few dozen Representatives in the House.

Next year there are 34 Senate seats up for grabs, 25 are Democratic (including the Vermont and Maine independents) and only 9 republican seats. To get the majority next year would mean we'd have to hold all 25 of ours and take three of their 9. It's not likely that we'd win 28 of 34 elections.

Better to work on the House and hope we have a better chance in 2020 when they have more seats at risk AND the embarrassing presidency up for re-election.

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
10. Josh Orton saying it doesn't make it so
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 05:36 PM
Mar 2017

"Republicans don't have the votes for the nuclear option"???

I wish that were true; but I doubt that it is.

According to the OP:
&quot Susan) Collins is the only Republican senator to express misgivings about the nuclear option so far."
But a Collins representative told the Daily Caller News Foundation:
"She hopes that common sense will prevail and that we will have a normal process for considering Judge Gorsuch's nomination."

That doesn't sound like Collins is ready to vote NO on using the nuclear option, and she
"is the only Republican senator to express misgivings about the nuclear option so far."

Also, even The Daily Caller, (which is a conservative site) doesn't say:
"Republicans don't have the votes for the nuclear option"
It's headline reads: "It Could Be Close: Counting To 51 On The Nuclear Option"

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
11. The compromise here was always to seat Merrick Garland and THEN consider Gorsuch next...
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 05:47 PM
Mar 2017

The legitimacy of the court is endangered if the GOP decides that "winning" is more important than the fate of the nation.

To heal the divides in this nation, to bring back any chance at "bipartisan" support for ANYTHING at all for the next 3 years, this is the solution to the SCOTUS problem. The right thing to do is to have a gang of Republican Senators descend on McConnell and set him straight on the role of "advise and consent" and who exactly fills Supreme Court vacancies.

I will forever be mystified by the results of the 2016 election (in my heart I truly believe there was some dirty dealings and vote manipulation to go along with the insane FBI director and inordinate amount of interest in e-mails and Benghazi), but the greatest tragedy was the usurpation of the SCOTUS by the recalcitrant GOP and their evil minions...

Truly depressing that the easy, fair and just solution is the exact LAST THING that will ever happen...

onenote

(42,684 posts)
12. I wouldn't bet on it.
Mon Mar 27, 2017, 05:48 PM
Mar 2017

If it's the difference between Gorsuch being confirmed or not being confirmed, the Senate Repubs will fall in line. What other option do they have? Wait for Trump to nominate someone who would be all that different than Gorsuch?

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
20. OMG....to borrow a expression from my youngest.
Tue Mar 28, 2017, 11:59 AM
Mar 2017

I thought making them go nuclear was merely a delaying tactic...if we could block this guy, I would be ecstatic. It is hard for me to believe that the GOP won't in the end won't support the nuclear option...but wow just wow if they didn't support it.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Republicans dont have the...