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CK_John

(10,005 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:39 AM Jul 2012

Will Scalia's mental confusion lead a parade of 4 out the door?

IMO, Scalia is showing all the signs of dementia and was the reason the Chief Justice flipped in order to avoid disclosure.

But will now press for his departure or disclosure.

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Will Scalia's mental confusion lead a parade of 4 out the door? (Original Post) CK_John Jul 2012 OP
Im not following, disclosure? Firebrand Gary Jul 2012 #1
Don't bother trying to follow. The OP is nonsense. onenote Jul 2012 #11
There's precedence to impeach Scalia for his stupid ass'd rant. If the DNC was like the GOP uponit7771 Jul 2012 #2
what's the precedence? What other justice was impeached due to a ranting opinion? WI_DEM Jul 2012 #3
A Short History of Impeachment bemildred Jul 2012 #6
Thanks, so Samuel Chase in 1804 was the only SC Justice impeached and he was... WI_DEM Jul 2012 #8
You are welcome. bemildred Jul 2012 #9
There is no precedent for impeaching a SCOTUS justice because of a "rant" onenote Jul 2012 #10
You can impeach anybody for anything. bemildred Jul 2012 #12
Sure. But the post I responded to suggested there was precedent for impeaching a SCOTUS Justice onenote Jul 2012 #13
Right, and I made the point that anybody can be impeached for anything. bemildred Jul 2012 #17
And how well did that turn out? onenote Jul 2012 #21
I'm just saying it can happen, not predicting success. nt bemildred Jul 2012 #29
A happy thought. bemildred Jul 2012 #4
but a lot of grumpy old men have served on the US Supreme Court and many WI_DEM Jul 2012 #5
And that's good? You think that's good? nt bemildred Jul 2012 #7
With age comes wisdom pscot Jul 2012 #14
I'm 67, with age comes feebleness. nt bemildred Jul 2012 #18
Maybe so, but feebleness is not grounds for forcing someone off the court onenote Jul 2012 #22
Please see post #17. nt bemildred Jul 2012 #30
I'm 65, still teaching at a University, and just published my most important book. skip fox Jul 2012 #24
DITTO! elleng Jul 2012 #28
LOL. bemildred Jul 2012 #31
& with alleged drug problems (REHNQUIST). & with abhorrent personal philosophies. n/t UTUSN Jul 2012 #15
"Impeach Earl Warren" Paladin Jul 2012 #16
+1. nt bemildred Jul 2012 #19
And how well did that turn out? onenote Jul 2012 #20
Who said anything about impeachment. I thing the CJ will use behind CK_John Jul 2012 #25
Don't dare TOUCH Justice Ginsburg! elleng Jul 2012 #27
The post I was responding to said something about impeachment. onenote Jul 2012 #34
Thanks For Demonstating The Last Sentence Of My Post. (nt) Paladin Jul 2012 #33
No. GoCubsGo Jul 2012 #23
While I don't think scalia's mental whatever had ANYTHING to do with Roberts' decision, elleng Jul 2012 #26
Are you talking about the fact Scalia wears no clothes under his robe and likes to wander the halls aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #32
That there's some funny shit... cherokeeprogressive Jul 2012 #35

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
2. There's precedence to impeach Scalia for his stupid ass'd rant. If the DNC was like the GOP
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:44 AM
Jul 2012

...they'd have him out the door already

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
3. what's the precedence? What other justice was impeached due to a ranting opinion?
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:46 AM
Jul 2012

and while your at it explain where the 2/3 votes in the Senate comes to remove the Justice if he is impeached.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
6. A Short History of Impeachment
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:49 AM
Jul 2012

The Infamous Sixteen

Since 1797 the House of Representatives has impeached sixteen federal officials. These include two presidents, a cabinet member, a senator, a justice of the Supreme Court, and eleven federal judges. Of those, the Senate has convicted and removed seven, all of them judges. Not included in this list are the office holders who have resigned rather than face impeachment, most notably, President Richard M. Nixon.

http://www.infoplease.com/spot/impeach.html

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
8. Thanks, so Samuel Chase in 1804 was the only SC Justice impeached and he was...
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:55 AM
Jul 2012

acquited by the Senate. Again where would the votes to impeach Scalia come in the House? and to convict him in the Senate?

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
9. You are welcome.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:58 AM
Jul 2012

I am not much on prognostication about the Congress and what it might do, unfortunately reason is no guide there, and there is an election coming soon, so you are on your own with your questions about possible future events.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
10. There is no precedent for impeaching a SCOTUS justice because of a "rant"
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 10:07 AM
Jul 2012

I don't know where people come up with this stuff.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
12. You can impeach anybody for anything.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 10:09 AM
Jul 2012

Simply consider what happened to Clinton. It is all political, most of the time.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
13. Sure. But the post I responded to suggested there was precedent for impeaching a SCOTUS Justice
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 10:24 AM
Jul 2012

for a particular activity -- a "rant." There is no such thing and claiming that there is such precedent is as misleading as a post claiming that there is precedent for impeaching a federal official for having blue eyes or for wearing brown socks with black shoes. Maybe you would defend such posts as accurate, but most people probably wouldn't.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
17. Right, and I made the point that anybody can be impeached for anything.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 02:58 PM
Jul 2012

There was no precedent for impeaching a President for a blow job, or lying about a blow job, either, but they did it.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
4. A happy thought.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:48 AM
Jul 2012

I do wonder about his mental state, grumpy old men don't really have good judicial temperament.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
5. but a lot of grumpy old men have served on the US Supreme Court and many
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:49 AM
Jul 2012

past with declining faculties--both liberal and conservative justices. After all it is a life time appointment.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
22. Maybe so, but feebleness is not grounds for forcing someone off the court
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 03:42 PM
Jul 2012

Ruth Bader Ginsburg was 67 during the Bush I administration. I think we can all be thankful that she wasn't forced to step down because of her "feebleness."

skip fox

(19,359 posts)
24. I'm 65, still teaching at a University, and just published my most important book.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 04:34 PM
Jul 2012

Squeak for yourself.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
28. DITTO!
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 08:08 PM
Jul 2012

Not teaching or publishing, and 67, not 65, but I sure get your drift (and congratulate you.) Dad just passed on, at 98.

Paladin

(28,264 posts)
16. "Impeach Earl Warren"
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:12 AM
Jul 2012

Anyone else old enough to remember all those billboards? There's precedent for impeachment movements directed at Supreme Court justices, and not all that long ago. I doubt that Scalia has anything to worry about, given how gutless the liberal movement has become in this country.....

onenote

(42,714 posts)
20. And how well did that turn out?
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 03:31 PM
Jul 2012

First, attempting to impeach Scalia is a silly notion since the republican held house (a) would never even hold a hearing on an impeachment resolution and (b) would use it in fundraising letters that would be pretty effective with their base, imo.

Second, if there was a hearing (and even if not, then in interviews) every single member of the court would unquestionably testify in defense of Scalia, which would make the effort look even more ridiculous.

If you are old enough to remember the "impeach Earl Warren" movement, you should be old enough to remember that it was largely spearheaded by the John Birch Society. Following a precedent set by that organization is a truly bad idea.

CK_John

(10,005 posts)
25. Who said anything about impeachment. I thing the CJ will use behind
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 07:51 PM
Jul 2012

the scene pressure on RW groups to get Scalia to resign. Maybe a balanced set of resignations, Scalia and Ginsburg.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
27. Don't dare TOUCH Justice Ginsburg!
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 08:06 PM
Jul 2012

Tho I appreciate your suggestion that CJ might institute pressure.

onenote

(42,714 posts)
34. The post I was responding to said something about impeachment.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 10:38 PM
Jul 2012

Your post didn't really deserve a further response. I wish I could say I enjoy your flights of fancy as much as some do, but, I don't. In any event, the CJ has a fraction of the influence with RW groups as Scalia; or Alito or Thomas for that matter. And the idea that Ginsburg and Scalia would agree to step down, together or separately, is delusional. Among other things, its been nearly 100 years since Congress confirmed a new Supreme Court justice within 6 months of a presidential election.

GoCubsGo

(32,086 posts)
23. No.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 03:45 PM
Jul 2012

Unfortunately, there are a substantial number of people in this country who consider Scalia's behavior to be perfectly normal and acceptable. Many of the wing nuts around here are actually cheering on this lunatic.

elleng

(130,974 posts)
26. While I don't think scalia's mental whatever had ANYTHING to do with Roberts' decision,
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 08:04 PM
Jul 2012

it IS possible, if scalia really IS out of it, and not just more in love with himself than has appeared in the past, there might be some pressure, from within, for his departure.

aint_no_life_nowhere

(21,925 posts)
32. Are you talking about the fact Scalia wears no clothes under his robe and likes to wander the halls
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 08:36 PM
Jul 2012

flipping up his robe at the other Justices and clerks and giggling maniacally?

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