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reflection

(6,286 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:28 AM Jul 2012

*If* Romney wins (which I don't think he will)

I do not see the Republicans attempting to repeal the ACA. My reasons, worth what you paid for them (zilch) are as follows:

1) They will have no viable plan to replace it. Their plan was used as the spring board for this one, and if this isn't palatable to their base, then no plan will be. I don't think they'll attempt to repeal this act without something to insert in its place. Obstructing implementation of a potential plan is one thing, but they don't want to be known as the party that took away insurance for uninsurables and people with pre-existing conditions.

2) The bill is good for insurance companies, and companies in general. If you're an insurance company, you're loving this plan. With respect to other companies, the penalty for not providing coverage can be less expensive than providing the coverage itself, so they can divest themselves of this burden.

3) If the ACA is repealed, it takes away one of the Republican bogeymans they like to rail against, and puts the onus on them to fix it. They would rather blame the Democrats than fix anything.

If I had to guess, I'd say they attempt to tweak the plan here and there to play to their base, continue to shake their fists at the evil socialist Democrats who are thwarting their attempts to repeal, but leave it largely intact.

Disclaimer: I am no expert, and no one has ever accused me of being a deep thinker, so if anyone sees gaping holes in my theory, by all means, point them out. I try to keep an open mind, especially about complex subjects like this that have many different variables associated with them.

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MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. RMoney can't do a damn thing about it without the advise and consent of the Senate.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:30 AM
Jul 2012

We'd have to lose the Senate, and decisively, for him to be able to make good on his empty threat.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
3. I don't know about decisively
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:36 AM
Jul 2012

my guess is that a puke Senate would use reconciliation to financially gut the bill without even attempting to get the 60 votes.

dmr

(28,347 posts)
5. Apparently they can't use Reconciliation -
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:42 AM
Jul 2012
http://www.alternet.org/health/156097/4_reasons_why_republicans_won%27t_be_able_to_repeal_obamacare

2) Congress can’t repeal the full law through reconciliation. Without the necessary 60 votes in the Senate for full repeal, Republicans are pledging to use a budget reconciliation bill to undo the ACA. But this process would only apply to the budget-related elements of the law and would thus leave many portions — including the mandate — intact. As health care expert Robert Laszewski put it, “Romney could end up creating a chaotic environment driven by enormous uncertainty over just which parts of the new health care law would be implemented–for consumers, health care providers, and insurers.”


reflection

(6,286 posts)
8. Good stuff. Thanks for sharing
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:50 AM
Jul 2012

Which kind of further cements my gut feeling that if Romney wins (shudder) they'll realize it just can't be killed easily without causing mass chaos and pain, which they will then be blamed for. Better to say "we're doing the best we can to fix this horrible, evil thing that the Democrats foisted upon the public," and then do very little to nothing.

reflection

(6,286 posts)
6. I don't think they are above using reconciliation.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:43 AM
Jul 2012

I don't think they would have any qualms about using reconciliation, I just believe in my heart that they really don't want this bill killed. It works for their business base, and it works for their red-meat voting base as an issue. Couple that with no viable alternative, and I see them carving around the edges of this thing, not impaling it.

discopants

(535 posts)
2. … then GOP would keep ACA, eliminate mandate to pay for it, blame Obama for the added debt
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:35 AM
Jul 2012

Teapartiers won't mind. what's another trillion if it can be blamed on Obama? The the GOP can say THEY gave everyone affordable healthcare.

Poll_Blind

(23,864 posts)
7. If that should come to pass, I don't see them repealing it outright either.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jul 2012

Just making it more of a hideous feed trough for the health care industry. We live in interesting times. I don't really know how all this is going to shake out and I genuinely believe the President, the Democrats and the Republicans don't know exactly where things are going to land or what they're going to do in this or that situation.

There are really only two parties who I think are working on this like laser beams: The health insurance companies and a pitifully small section of American citizens and organizations who are attempting to inject themselves as a counterweight to the former's influence.

If Americans don't put The Fear into their representatives during this election year, the health care industry is going to have the upper hand no matter who winds up being the President and no matter who has majorities in the House and Senate.

Anyone who's watched Sicko knows the mega health care industry is a many-tendrilled creature, with tentacles in every pocket.

PB

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