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LaurenG

(24,841 posts)
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 01:50 PM Jul 2012

Can spanking cause mental illness?


CNN) - Parents often ask me whether spanking is really so bad. After all, they were spanked as kids and they turned out fine. Plus, it's the only thing that will get their child to listen, they say.

Much research has focused on the effects that severe child abuse can have on a person's mental well-being. But a new study published in the July issue of the journal Pediatrics takes a look at the possible link between mental health disorders and harsh physical punishment in the absence of abuse. The findings may persuade parents not to spank at all.

Researchers from Canada found that physical punishment (such as slapping, hitting, pushing and shoving) -- even without child neglect or physical, sexual or emotional abuse -- was linked to mood disorders, anxiety disorders, substance abuse and personality disorders.

While it may be true that many of today's parents were spanked as children and are now well-adjusted, previous studies have also shown that those who were spanked are at a higher risk to be depressed; use alcohol; hit their spouse or own children; and engage in violent or criminal behaviors.

Read more: http://www.wlwt.com/news/health/Can-spanking-cause-mental-illness/-/9837732/15371678/-/145g9vrz/-/index.html#ixzz1zULykErP






I was certainly spanked and by todays standards abused and I did have anxiety disorders. Great reasons not to spank kids.






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Can spanking cause mental illness? (Original Post) LaurenG Jul 2012 OP
I wasn't spanked; I was hit with a closed fist and beaten with a leather belt. PDJane Jul 2012 #1
Similar history LiberalEsto Jul 2012 #3
"...I still have a hard time looking at a leather belt that's not being worn by someone." Raffi Ella Jul 2012 #5
Me too. PTSD, not necessarily from whippings but other abuse like sexual, etc. LiberalLoner Jul 2012 #13
we were spanked once in a while. We're fine. roguevalley Jul 2012 #20
ALL corporal punishment is psychologically damaging. Odin2005 Jul 2012 #2
I was never spanked. My parents thought it was barbaric. proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #4
That is pretty ironic, TBH. AverageJoe90 Jul 2012 #6
Sometimes it's genetic. proud2BlibKansan Jul 2012 #7
One of the saddest things I have ever heard randr Jul 2012 #8
Dang no kidding. So much pain has been visited upon us all LaurenG Jul 2012 #10
The whole idea of breaking kids felix_numinous Jul 2012 #9
I was beat several times as a child. LeftofObama Jul 2012 #11
Mine is "Shame on you" it makes me want to say LaurenG Jul 2012 #14
I could tell you some stories from my childhood LeftofObama Jul 2012 #17
I always wondered what % of human beings LaurenG Jul 2012 #18
One of my Psych teachers answered a question from a mother, "How much should you spank your child?" Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2012 #12
Not spanking doesn't mean your kids are going to turn out badly cynatnite Jul 2012 #15
Cause?? doubt it...contribute-perhaps dembotoz Jul 2012 #16
I was going to say the same thing loyalsister Jul 2012 #19

PDJane

(10,103 posts)
1. I wasn't spanked; I was hit with a closed fist and beaten with a leather belt.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 01:56 PM
Jul 2012

And yes, I have depression and anxiety disorders, and absolutely despise my father, and find my mother wears on what little patience I have left.

The only thing that's different is the extreme.

 

LiberalEsto

(22,845 posts)
3. Similar history
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 02:01 PM
Jul 2012

My father used a leather belt most of the time. My mother usually used a hand, but one time she whipped me with a plastic clothesline. I was about five at the time.

At age 60, I still have a hard time looking at a leather belt that's not being worn by someone.

And yes, depression.

Raffi Ella

(4,465 posts)
5. "...I still have a hard time looking at a leather belt that's not being worn by someone."
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 02:14 PM
Jul 2012

Me too. And god forbid anyone yanking one out of their belt loops in my presence.

Anxiety and depression have always been a big presence in my life.


proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
4. I was never spanked. My parents thought it was barbaric.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 02:08 PM
Jul 2012

I also never spanked my own kids.

But we have mental illness in our family. Go figure.

randr

(12,412 posts)
8. One of the saddest things I have ever heard
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jul 2012

Listened to Pierce (?) interview Michael Jacksons mother over the weekend.
He asked about the abuse from Michael's father.
She admitted the beating took place and said no one was ever hurt by beating with a belt. She further questioned where the world would be without harsh discipline.
All I could think when she uttered the words was that without his fathers beatings Michael may still be here today.
Such a sad and confused woman using her religion as a crutch.

LaurenG

(24,841 posts)
10. Dang no kidding. So much pain has been visited upon us all
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jul 2012

just because no one taught us it's not ok to beat children.

felix_numinous

(5,198 posts)
9. The whole idea of breaking kids
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jul 2012

like you break a horse, results in kids that are afraid of asserting themselves. My parents were beat and so they did that to us, and me and all my sibs have spent a lifetime struggling with assertiveness, trusting relationships and just being able to live in our bodies.

Speaking of horses, I'll never forget the movie about the horse whisperer, and how he could tell if a horse was beat, which side, and as he gentled them he so deeply moved people in the audience, some people would come to him in tears after his demonstrations. They had been beat too as children. Of course I cried too.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
11. I was beat several times as a child.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jul 2012

My father would beat me with a belt for just disagreeing with him. After a while you just learn to keep your mouth shut. My mother was emotionally abusive, if she didn't get her way she would call you every name in the book and make you feel like you were lower than whale shit.

To this day I can't stand to hear someone say, "because I said so".

I have had anxiety disorders and relationship problems from as far back as I can remember. I have a really hard time being in groups of people, and that includes my own dysfunctional family. My dad had dementia in his final years and he died over 5 years ago and I can honestly say I don't miss him. My mother is getting on in years and when she's gone I don't think I'll miss her either. Thanks to the physical and emotional abuse I suffered as a child I've learned to not trust another living soul, keep my mouth shut, my head down, and get along all by myself.

So in response to the question, "Can spanking cause mental illness?", the short answer in my opinion is Yes It Can!

LaurenG

(24,841 posts)
14. Mine is "Shame on you" it makes me want to say
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:10 PM
Jul 2012

a really bad word because that's how my mother got everything she wanted. First you beat them then you shame them.

LeftofObama

(4,243 posts)
17. I could tell you some stories from my childhood
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 07:48 PM
Jul 2012

that would make your skin crawl. We were never allowed free time as children, and our play time was limited to when our parents had company so we wouldn't be in the way. If I was caught reading a book just for the fun of it there were suddenly 100 chores that needed to be done.

One day my sister and I were outside playing and we were having a great time laughing and running around. My mother felt we were being unproductive so she called us both inside. I had to go to my room and get all of my clothes out of the dresser and re wash them and my sister had to take all of the dishes out of the cupboard and rewash those.

There are a thousand other things I could tell, but it just makes me depressed to even think about it.

LaurenG

(24,841 posts)
18. I always wondered what % of human beings
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 08:01 PM
Jul 2012

Had dysfunctional or abusive childhoods. I am really sorry that so many people had such a hard time just being a kid, very sad...

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
12. One of my Psych teachers answered a question from a mother, "How much should you spank your child?"
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 04:19 PM
Jul 2012

It was a night class, so a lot of "ordinary" people were attending rather than regular students.

He answered:

"Until YOU feel better"

She looked bewildered for a minute then finally got it.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
15. Not spanking doesn't mean your kids are going to turn out badly
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 05:12 PM
Jul 2012

That's what needs to be said more often.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
19. I was going to say the same thing
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 08:45 PM
Jul 2012

Headlines that omit logic and clarity approach outright dishonesty.

There are some people who have mental illnesses experienced abuse.
There are some people who were abused experience mental illness.
Not all people who experience abuse also experience mental illness

Thus, childhood abuse may contribute to mental illness in some people.

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