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WoonTars

(694 posts)
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:38 PM Jun 2017

After Dump gets impeached, can we undo the things he's done like the Paris agreement?

Is it possible to just reinstate it as it was, or will the US have to start from scratch all over again?

What a fucking joke this guy is...

Making America Dumb Again...

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After Dump gets impeached, can we undo the things he's done like the Paris agreement? (Original Post) WoonTars Jun 2017 OP
We should be able to rejoin at any time marylandblue Jun 2017 #1
I was thinking of this too katmondoo Jun 2017 #2
If we get an actual human being in office. nolabear Jun 2017 #3
You mean will Pence? No. NYC Liberal Jun 2017 #4
Every EO itcfish Jun 2017 #5
Yes, we can. ButSeeYa Jun 2017 #6
Yes. Paris was always voluntary anyhow, The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2017 #7
Not until 2021 at least. Elwood P Dowd Jun 2017 #8
Withdrawal takes 3 years. Turbineguy Jun 2017 #9
Speaking of pulling out, why oh why did his father not think to do that Txbluedog Jun 2017 #10
Tempting.... Turbineguy Jun 2017 #12
Why would withdrawal take three years NobodyHere Jun 2017 #14
"Renegotiate an accord"? Trump? Dave Starsky Jun 2017 #15
Repeal and Replace kskiska Jun 2017 #17
Make America fucked onecaliberal Jun 2017 #11
Some, not all. Alas, he's shown the world this country can be trusted only Warpy Jun 2017 #13
Ahh, Pence will be POTUS CanonRay Jun 2017 #16
Not with pence matt819 Jun 2017 #18

ButSeeYa

(273 posts)
6. Yes, we can.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:45 PM
Jun 2017

Just as he is trying to erase Obama's legacy, the next President (hopefully, someone reasonable and with a brain), can also undo what Trump has put in place.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(116,140 posts)
7. Yes. Paris was always voluntary anyhow,
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:45 PM
Jun 2017

and individual entities can (and many will) continue to do what they've already been doing to reduce carbon emissions and greenhouse gases because it's smart business and politically popular. There will be little immediate environmental damage as a result of this; the damage in the short term will be to the image and standing of the United States, which Dolt 45 has sacrificed in order to curry favor with the remaining deplorables. Even most big corporations were against pulling out.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
8. Not until 2021 at least.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:46 PM
Jun 2017

Maybe not even then with all the voter suppression and voting machine manipulation put in place by the repukes. Repukes won't budge until Washington, New York, and Miami are under water.

Turbineguy

(37,460 posts)
9. Withdrawal takes 3 years.
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:46 PM
Jun 2017

Trump is going to re-negotiate a better accord. Which he could do anyway.

He's "pulling out" in order to keep his campaign promise. All he has to do is say he's pulling out. None of his supporters will check up on him to see if he'll actually do it. And if somebody should notice, he can just say he pulled out.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
15. "Renegotiate an accord"? Trump?
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:54 PM
Jun 2017

Trump couldn't negotiate an accord between two toddlers fighting over a Barbie doll.

Warpy

(111,555 posts)
13. Some, not all. Alas, he's shown the world this country can be trusted only
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:52 PM
Jun 2017

four years at a time. Since our safeguard against installing a populist lunatic--the EC--failed, no nation can possibly trust us not to elect another one just like him.

This is something I hope the GOP is waking up to, the damage he does will be mostly international, piled on top of the damage Stupid did. Here, it's mostly fatheads in red hats looking for fights. Overseas, it's a tremendous loss of trust and prestige.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
18. Not with pence
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 04:24 PM
Jun 2017

But in 2020? That's the question. How much can the next Democratic president do to undo the fantastic damage this buffoon has created so far, to say nothing of what he or pence will do in the coming years.

IMHO, it will take a generation or more to undo the damage - politically, morally, financially, militarily (NATO), racism/white supremacy. As for the planet, states and corporations will continue to forge ahead on their own initiatives, so maybe the failure of the US as a nation to meet its goals under the Paris accords might not be so awful. But the rest of it? At least 20 years. After all, we're still dealing (badly) with the aftermath of 9/11, what with troops still in Afghanistan, the turmoil in Iraq and Syria, the rise of ISIS and terrorism. And that's only if we can get Republicans out in 2018 and 2020 and keep Dems in the WH for more than 2 terms. Otherwise? Who the hell knows.

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