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Do You Think Trump Actively Sought Russian Help And Colluded? (Original Post) SeaDoo77 Nov 2017 OP
I think they approached him and his crew... Wounded Bear Nov 2017 #1
To answer your question yes bdamomma Nov 2017 #2
When everyone connected with him including his own sons did he doc03 Nov 2017 #3
Personally no. He's too stupid. mythology Nov 2017 #4
yes standingtall Nov 2017 #5
It's obvious that the bigoted racist sexual predator who loves the murderer Vladimir Putin conspired Lint Head Nov 2017 #6
A control freak like him? Turbineguy Nov 2017 #7
My guess is that a minion of Putin NewJeffCT Nov 2017 #8
Yes, and yes he did it for money, and yes he has turned over federal secrets to Putin Farmer-Rick Nov 2017 #9
trump has been corrupt and dependent on cilla4progress Nov 2017 #10
Gutting the state department, refusing to implement the sanctions Cosmocat Nov 2017 #11
Yes - cilla4progress Nov 2017 #12
Yes, I do believe that there was active collusion between trump and russia Gothmog Nov 2017 #13

Wounded Bear

(58,797 posts)
1. I think they approached him and his crew...
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:48 AM
Nov 2017

It certainly appears that they wrote that email leading to the June meeting with Kushner & Co.

Trump has been "working" with the Russians for decades and is probably up to his fat ass in Russian debt, since no reputable has been willing to finance his bullshit since the early 90's. I'd say that Russian has been cultivating Trump as an asset since at least the 80's if not before.

I figure that yes, Trump and his cronies "colluded" with the Russians. I suspect they had no choice in the matter, that's kind of how criminal enterprises work.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
4. Personally no. He's too stupid.
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:54 AM
Nov 2017

He would have accidentally forwarded the email to the press or put it on Twitter. Those around him more likely. But even those idiots forwarded emails.

standingtall

(2,787 posts)
5. yes
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:55 AM
Nov 2017

His son already admitted to attending a meeting with a Russian lawyer to obtain dirt on Hilary Clinton and Trump himself asked Russia to hack Hilary Clinton's emails on national TV.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
6. It's obvious that the bigoted racist sexual predator who loves the murderer Vladimir Putin conspired
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:56 AM
Nov 2017

to damage the United States. To cause confusion and disarray in the election process. Trump is a narcissistic authoritarian sociopath and needs to go to prison. It will take years to undo the damage this piece of excrement has done to our country. Also the GOP is complicit in enabling this cretin.

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
8. My guess is that a minion of Putin
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 11:59 AM
Nov 2017

reached out to Manafort, Flynn or somebody high up on Team Trump to see what they could get in exchange for helping Trump against Clinton. Since Trump is a known micro-manager, it was likely brought to Trump to approve and he gave it a bigly YES.

Farmer-Rick

(10,242 posts)
9. Yes, and yes he did it for money, and yes he has turned over federal secrets to Putin
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 12:16 PM
Nov 2017

And yes he never won the election it was rigged by Putin's minions and GOP Russian mob partners. And yes he sought out Putin's help to rig the election.

He is so corrupt that we are only seeing the tip of it. He is much much worse than you think. He hides behind his stupidity but don't be fooled. He is an evil psychopath intent on turning over the US to neo fascists in Russia.

cilla4progress

(24,804 posts)
10. trump has been corrupt and dependent on
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:32 PM
Nov 2017

ill-gotten gains since at least the 1980s. Russia and Putin actively cultivated him. He is a party to a global network of organized crime. He knows where these funds are coming from, and has staged his distance from them...plausible deniability (lending his name - branding - rather than owning his buildings).

Whether there was an overt master plan at the outset that trump participated in designing down to the detail, not sure. But he ran with their backing, which he was aware of; the leaking and hacking and “botting" it took to get him elected he rubber stamped -"whatever it takes"; and the cover up and lies, he sanctioned and gave his blessing to.

He is also owned and being blackmailed by, now, his Russian overseers - kompromat of various forms and vulgarity.

Luke Harding, a Guardian journo who wrote the new book Collusion is a great source. Terry Gross recently did an excellent one hour interview of him, which I highly recommend.

Cosmocat

(14,596 posts)
11. Gutting the state department, refusing to implement the sanctions
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:40 PM
Nov 2017

Show me ONE time he is this giddy with an American ...

[link:https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjRzbODquTXAhWISBQKHTfXBl8QjRwIBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.businessinsider.com%2Ftrump-russia-photographers-white-house-2017-5&psig=AOvVaw1qh80MllECEEX5WTO2jkTb&ust=1512063570483972|

The pro quo is is never ending ...

As most noted, he has been in bed with Russians for decades, and frankly, the POS is more comfortable with them than he is with us ...

cilla4progress

(24,804 posts)
12. Yes -
Wed Nov 29, 2017, 01:51 PM
Nov 2017

AND IT IS ONGOING!

Did I anyone hear WSJ journo Shelby Holliday on MSNBC earlier this week note the "collusion" between trump and putin last weekend in going after the press, CNN International, in particular?

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