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Omaha Steve

(99,593 posts)
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:44 AM Jan 2015

George Zimmerman assault case dropped; ex-girlfriend recants

Source: AP

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) — An aggravated assault case against George Zimmerman that was opened when his ex-girlfriend said he threw a wine bottle at her has been dropped because she recanted her story and stopped cooperating with investigators, a prosecutor said Friday.

State Attorney Phil Archer said he wouldn't file a formal charge against Zimmerman, the former neighborhood watch leader who was acquitted of killing Trayvon Martin. The killing of the unarmed black teen touched off protests across the country.

The ex-girlfriend had made it clear she didn't want the case to proceed, and there were no other eyewitnesses to what happened earlier this month, Archer said.

"While it is clear that the officers had probable cause to arrest Mr. Zimmerman ... the subsequent recantation by the victim of her initial statement ... precludes my office from proceeding further," Archer said in a statement.

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Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/7a0288c1928b44719d8f521a114679ed/george-zimmerman-assault-care-dropped-ex-girlfriend-recants

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George Zimmerman assault case dropped; ex-girlfriend recants (Original Post) Omaha Steve Jan 2015 OP
crime and (lack of) punishment NJCher Jan 2015 #1
Makes ya wonder mpcamb Jan 2015 #31
And he'll beat the shit out of her if she does not recant. longship Jan 2015 #2
Or he gave her a few G's of his blood money. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2015 #23
My guess would be coercion n/t albino65 Jan 2015 #3
I'm confused - which one is this? Which ex-girlfriend? How many charges are still outstanding? George II Jan 2015 #4
I assume she was well compensated for her change of heart. bluedigger Jan 2015 #5
That was my first thought as well. HappyMe Jan 2015 #6
yes. it is. riversedge Jan 2015 #13
I wonder if there's some group secretly bankrolling George. Demit Jan 2015 #11
The NRA has deep pockets and shallow ethics. bluedigger Jan 2015 #20
Are they bankrolling him or threatening her? LongTomH Jan 2015 #34
Oh, not directly, just fellow travelers, perhaps. bluedigger Jan 2015 #36
Funny how these keeps happening Adenoid_Hynkel Jan 2015 #7
The poster boy of gun activism gets away with it again. nt onehandle Jan 2015 #8
The poster boy for gun activism and violent behavior gets away with it again davidpdx Jan 2015 #29
Eventually 2naSalit Jan 2015 #9
Karma sure is slow with this one. Every time he's arrested, I think Laurian Jan 2015 #14
Same here. 2naSalit Jan 2015 #15
His Karma surprise will likely be very permanent. Elmer S. E. Dump Jan 2015 #24
But not soon enough davidpdx Jan 2015 #30
Teflon George frylock Jan 2015 #10
This is why domestic violence arrests/charges need to be made by the cops ... Myrina Jan 2015 #12
^^^THIS^^^ 2naSalit Jan 2015 #16
That's the way things are in Texas. christx30 Jan 2015 #22
I beleive that is the way it is in Florida - but if the victim recants csziggy Jan 2015 #28
It doesn't matter who presses charges SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2015 #37
Not true. Myrina Feb 2015 #40
They go forward SickOfTheOnePct Feb 2015 #41
Myrina just disproved her own point. ManiacJoe Feb 2015 #42
Definitely agree. These idiot women keep letting him off the hook Panich52 Feb 2015 #38
I wouldn't call them idiots .... Myrina Feb 2015 #39
You're right. It was more an 'I'm mad as hell' word Panich52 Feb 2015 #43
mf er is like teflon d_r Jan 2015 #17
Why is there a mobsteresque feel about this? Jake Stern Jan 2015 #18
I want to know who is the guy who is paying everybody off demigoddess Jan 2015 #19
Me too. Who is this mysterious Zimmerman-loving millionaire? Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #25
There should be a consequence.. sendero Jan 2015 #21
My big question is why any woman is still willing to be his girlfriend. Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #26
If this punt doesn't get some real help he is going to kill again. Thinkingabout Jan 2015 #27
.... DeSwiss Jan 2015 #32
Well, I think we all owe Mr. Zimmerman a big apology christx30 Jan 2015 #33
America loves bad guys olddots Jan 2015 #35

longship

(40,416 posts)
2. And he'll beat the shit out of her if she does not recant.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 11:49 AM
Jan 2015

Zimmerman is Zimmerman, a serial misogynist and abuser.

George II

(67,782 posts)
4. I'm confused - which one is this? Which ex-girlfriend? How many charges are still outstanding?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jan 2015

These things are so complicated to keep track of!

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
6. That was my first thought as well.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:07 PM
Jan 2015

Isn't this the 2nd time that these kind of charges were suddenly dropped?

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
11. I wonder if there's some group secretly bankrolling George.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:30 PM
Jan 2015

IIRC, he doesn't personally have any money.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
20. The NRA has deep pockets and shallow ethics.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:19 PM
Jan 2015

George is their golden goose and they will do whatever it takes to keep him producing for them.

bluedigger

(17,086 posts)
36. Oh, not directly, just fellow travelers, perhaps.
Sat Jan 31, 2015, 09:58 PM
Jan 2015

He's a walking poster boy for the validation of the SYG defense to many. If one one notices a pattern of him attracting and discarding women with no apparent income develop, and that leads to questions,

well,


I guess I'm just curious.

 

Adenoid_Hynkel

(14,093 posts)
7. Funny how these keeps happening
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:08 PM
Jan 2015

I mean, totally natural for a series of girlfriends to file abuse and assault charges on you

2naSalit

(86,565 posts)
9. Eventually
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 12:15 PM
Jan 2015

karma will catch up to him.. most likely via a taste of his own medicine.

Seems like the only way this walking crime spree will end.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
14. Karma sure is slow with this one. Every time he's arrested, I think
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jan 2015

this is it....karma. But, no, he keeps getting away.

Slimy bastard.

2naSalit

(86,565 posts)
15. Same here.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:27 PM
Jan 2015

But when you look at all the other BS that passes for normal these days...
Glad I'm getting old... not sure how much more of this I can stand.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
12. This is why domestic violence arrests/charges need to be made by the cops ...
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:02 PM
Jan 2015

.... in some states the victim has nothing to do with it, so if she does recant or become a hostile witness, the charges/case still moves forward based on arrest evidence. Too many domestic abuse victims recant out of fear, imagined guilt ("it was my fault, I provoked him&quot or the "you can't take the man I looooooove" mentality.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
28. I beleive that is the way it is in Florida - but if the victim recants
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:26 PM
Jan 2015

And will not cooperate with police unless there is other evidence they cannot make a case. That seems to be what has happened in this case: ""While it is clear that the officers had probable cause to arrest Mr. Zimmerman ... the subsequent recantation by the victim of her initial statement ... precludes my office from proceeding further," {State Attorney Phil} Archer said in a statement." (from the link in the OP)

This makes the fourth domestic violence case Zimmerman has been involved in:

_He was arrested on charges of aggravated assault, battery and criminal mischief after his then-girlfriend said he pointed a gun at her face during an argument, smashed her coffee table and pushed her out of the house they shared. Samantha Scheibe decided not to cooperate with detectives and prosecutors didn't pursue the case.

__ Zimmerman was accused by his estranged wife of smashing an iPad during an argument at the home they had shared. Shellie Zimmerman initially told a dispatcher her husband had a gun, though she later said he was unarmed. No charges were filed because of a lack of evidence. The dispute occurred days after Shellie Zimmerman filed divorce papers.
(from the link in the OP)


Also in 2005, Zimmerman's ex-fiancée filed a restraining order against him, alleging domestic violence. Zimmerman requested a reciprocal restraining order. Both orders were granted.[3][27] These incidents were raised by prosecutors at Zimmerman's initial bond hearing. The judge described them as "run of the mill." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman#Other_encounters_with_police

I guess Zimmerman is careful to select girlfriends who are not as aggressive as he is and who are not into owning guns. Otherwise, Zimmerman could find himself on the wrong end of the barrel for a change.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
37. It doesn't matter who presses charges
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:11 AM
Feb 2015

if the witness recants, then unless there is other convincing evidence, there's no point in going to trial.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
40. Not true.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:26 PM
Feb 2015

In WI the charges are presented by the DA's offices simply because many women recant (for whatever reason). The cops & advocates testify, have photos, statements, ER records, whatever ... and the trial does go forward.

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
41. They go forward
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 04:13 PM
Feb 2015

even if they don't have enough evidence for a conviction? Because that's what this prosecutor is saying - without her testimony, there isn't enough evidence.

ManiacJoe

(10,136 posts)
42. Myrina just disproved her own point.
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 08:38 PM
Feb 2015
The cops & advocates testify, have photos, statements, ER records, whatever ... and the trial does go forward.

Without those things, nothing goes forward.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)
38. Definitely agree. These idiot women keep letting him off the hook
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 01:32 AM
Feb 2015

It certainly makes one curious as to why. Are they typical of so many abuse vics who recant out of generalized fear? Or because of shame? Or because good ole boy Georgie either threatens or pays them off - or both.

He's gonna run into someone more able to 'stand their ground' than he. Can't wait...

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
39. I wouldn't call them idiots ....
Sun Feb 1, 2015, 02:22 PM
Feb 2015

Georgie seems to have the ability to find low-self-esteem women he can bully or who think they're "the one he needs". Being "superman" in their eyes also feeds his low self-esteem & eventually sets off an incident.

I've done alot of research & volunteer work in domestic abuse shelters & DA's offices. It's a pretty sick cycle of co-dependence.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
18. Why is there a mobsteresque feel about this?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:51 PM
Jan 2015

"If you tell the DA to drop the charges against George, we'll make sure it's VERY worth your while"

*Taps finger on envelope full of cash*

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
19. I want to know who is the guy who is paying everybody off
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 01:56 PM
Jan 2015

or maybe it is an "enforcer" who threatens them.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
25. Me too. Who is this mysterious Zimmerman-loving millionaire?
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:05 PM
Jan 2015

And what is his motivation for ensuring that Zimmerman stays free?

sendero

(28,552 posts)
21. There should be a consequence..
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 02:33 PM
Jan 2015

... for "recanting". Either you were lying to the police then, or you are now.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
26. My big question is why any woman is still willing to be his girlfriend.
Fri Jan 30, 2015, 05:05 PM
Jan 2015

Of course, I also said this about OJ Simpson back in the day.

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