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Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 05:05 PM Feb 2015

Ukraine president calls for international peacekeepers

Source: AFP

Kiev (AFP) - Ukraine's President Petro Poroshenko on Wednesday called for a UN-mandated peacekeeping force to monitor a tattered ceasefire deal in east Ukraine.

"We see the best format would be a police mission from the European Union. We are sure this would be the most effective and best guarantee for security," Poroshenko said at the start of a meeting with security chiefs.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/ukraine-president-calls-international-peacekeepers-204508007.html;_ylt=AwrBJR_z.uRUUGEAcALQtDMD

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Ukraine president calls for international peacekeepers (Original Post) Bosonic Feb 2015 OP
Not going to happen since Kelvin Mace Feb 2015 #1
to be fair the russian soliders in ukraine are "international" already lol nt msongs Feb 2015 #2
Kiev is losing and facing an IMF deadline in March to negotiate a settlement leveymg Feb 2015 #3
Easy. Igel Feb 2015 #5
That's cute. Too bad Russia won't allow it. Their invasion has only begun. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #4
We don't believe in deterrence. Igel Feb 2015 #6

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
3. Kiev is losing and facing an IMF deadline in March to negotiate a settlement
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 05:28 PM
Feb 2015

that doesn't involve the secession of the industrial east of the country. Good luck, Mr. Poroshenko.

Igel

(35,311 posts)
5. Easy.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 06:21 PM
Feb 2015

Divide the debt. Much was entered into by Yanukovich, anyway, so that's all "theirs."

Stop all payments. Gas. Electricity. They can't keep a promise, why honor their claims on Western promises? (The ceasefire was handy--it allowed them to focus their firepower where they wanted it. They treat ceasefire's like Yanukovich treated the agreement he signed in the winter: It's a delaying tactic while making plans that involve ignoring the agreement. It worked once, it worked twice, it worked three times. One side's cynical. The other side is showing that it's doing good to have IQs in the double digits and a working memory that can include 1 piece of information.)

Think of it as simple behaviorism: They're being positively rewarded for acting out. The natural expectation is that there'll be more of that behavior. The harsh punishment isn't perceived as punishment--in fact, from their vantage point it's confirmation of the need for their course of action. Only deeply committed navel-gazers confuse "I think this is a punishment" with "they're being punished."

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. That's cute. Too bad Russia won't allow it. Their invasion has only begun.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 05:29 PM
Feb 2015

Not until Ukraine develops the capability of sending a lot more young Russian nationals back to Moscow in body bags will he be deterred.

Igel

(35,311 posts)
6. We don't believe in deterrence.
Wed Feb 18, 2015, 06:24 PM
Feb 2015

It might require fighting. We deter by saying "we choose no deterrence. How about you?"

Imagine that in a self-defence against rape class. "If accosted, be sure to say pleasant words to your would-be attacker and comply with his requests promptly. Say that you believe there is no solution that involves resistance. You may show your displeasure by refusing to patronize his business or his favorite stores. As soon as you say 'yes' to what he wants, it's no longer rape--and your problem's solved!"

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