Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

alp227

(32,018 posts)
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:19 PM Feb 2015

CBS News releases video referenced in O'Reilly dispute

Source: AP

NEW YORK (AP) — CBS News on Monday released video from four stories it aired about the Falklands War in 1982, all part of a dispute involving Fox News Channel host Bill O'Reilly and his subsequent statements about covering the war.

None of the stories mention O'Reilly, then a young CBS reporter, or makes any specific reference to a CBS crew member being hurt.

The television time travel was prompted by a Mother Jones article last week calling into question O'Reilly claims that he reported in a "war zone" or "combat zone" during the brief conflict between Britain and Argentina. Few reporters made it to the front of the war, some 1,000 miles from the Argentine capital of Buenos Aires.

O'Reilly has said that he covered an anti-government demonstration in Buenos Aires that turned violent and that a photographer he was working with was knocked to the ground and was bleeding. Describing the events two years ago, O'Reilly said he "dragged off" the photographer from danger.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/590e34e590aa409b9585b9486cb4489d/cbs-news-releases-video-referenced-oreilly-dispute

34 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
CBS News releases video referenced in O'Reilly dispute (Original Post) alp227 Feb 2015 OP
CBS versus Fox versus NBC - inevitable that the jackals of American media would turn on each other Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #1
Seeing them tear the shit out of each other is kind of satisfying isn't it? davidpdx Feb 2015 #19
Well, I hate Fox worse. The Stranger Feb 2015 #27
And now today it's revealed that VA Sec. McDonald lied on camera about TwilightGardener Feb 2015 #2
WOW. alp227 Feb 2015 #3
They have very huge egos that require attention. It's like a drug, they always need more. Demit Feb 2015 #4
It's weird, because the truth will always come out sooner or later-- TwilightGardener Feb 2015 #5
Well, we've seen many public figures survive that risk just fine. Demit Feb 2015 #7
I know, I dont get it either. Makes no sense. nt 7962 Feb 2015 #9
Because Lying Has Become Acceptable billhicks76 Feb 2015 #13
What were the details of this huge, huge "lie caught on camera"? Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #20
Is that guy a liberal? Or is he a righty that Obama felt he had to appoint for the reasons randys1 Feb 2015 #26
The United Kingdom did not drop a single bomb on Buenos Aires, Argentina KeepItReal Feb 2015 #6
He could say he bombed the moon and the average viewer would believe him Taitertots Feb 2015 #12
He could see the Falklands from his porch. randome Feb 2015 #23
Yeah, but the US sent in O'Reilly - doesn't he think he's "da bomb"? Elmer S. E. Dump Feb 2015 #25
Associated Press -- BULLSHIT! You Rat Bastards! cheapdate Feb 2015 #8
In rebutting Mother Jones this year, O'Reilly clarified he went to Buenos Aires. alp227 Feb 2015 #16
Okay, AP did report the body and essence of O'Reilly's lies about the Falkland War. cheapdate Feb 2015 #21
All the time with AP, subtle propaganda by leaving things out...they do it all the time. Good catch. Fred Sanders Feb 2015 #28
Its how they frame the issues. cheapdate Feb 2015 #32
Billo the Klown needs to return his oak leaf cluster! Major Hogwash Feb 2015 #10
Here's the link if anyone's curious. forest444 Feb 2015 #11
Thanks rpannier Feb 2015 #17
You bet; and I'm glad CBS released these, as they are indeed revealing. forest444 Feb 2015 #30
Did you notice chervilant Feb 2015 #22
Now that you mention it, I hadn't. Good catch! forest444 Feb 2015 #29
Even so, I'm intrigued by how meaty the news was then versus now. bigworld Feb 2015 #31
And the delivery, chervilant Feb 2015 #33
Looks like its turned into a pissing match. Its going nowhere. 7962 Feb 2015 #14
O'Reilly also claimed he was on the porch of George de Mohrenschildt Midnight Writer Feb 2015 #15
Wow...is that true? navarth Feb 2015 #24
Yes , it is true, see Mediaite story today Midnight Writer Feb 2015 #34
None of which would be happening if he had kept his mouth shut rocktivity Feb 2015 #18

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
1. CBS versus Fox versus NBC - inevitable that the jackals of American media would turn on each other
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:23 PM
Feb 2015

after the veil was lifted by Brian Williams massive loss of trust....the virus is spreading.

It is a good virus.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
19. Seeing them tear the shit out of each other is kind of satisfying isn't it?
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 07:58 AM
Feb 2015

Yet poor Brian Williams is on vacation during the whole debacle. He may have gotten the best deal with the way things are going. Let the bombs drop where they may.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
2. And now today it's revealed that VA Sec. McDonald lied on camera about
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:28 PM
Feb 2015

being in Special Forces. WTF is it with these people? Why do they have to make up shit when they're already accomplished?

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
5. It's weird, because the truth will always come out sooner or later--
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:36 PM
Feb 2015

how can it be worth the risk of one's career and reputation?

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
7. Well, we've seen many public figures survive that risk just fine.
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:50 PM
Feb 2015

Depending on how much power they have; what their worth is to those who can defend and protect them & how much power THOSE people have; and all of them bank on the eventual forgetfulness of the public. If there's too much fuss, there's always the ostentatious display of contrition; then if necessary, the period of lying low; then the comeback. They've gamed it all out.

 

billhicks76

(5,082 posts)
13. Because Lying Has Become Acceptable
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:44 PM
Feb 2015

No one was ever held responsible for lies about 911, the Iraq War, the financial meltdown, police lying and abuse, cheating in general etc. There is no accountability...it's all about getting yours.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
20. What were the details of this huge, huge "lie caught on camera"?
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 08:35 AM
Feb 2015

Outrage first, sentence before trial, facts later?

randys1

(16,286 posts)
26. Is that guy a liberal? Or is he a righty that Obama felt he had to appoint for the reasons
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:51 PM
Feb 2015

we are all too familiar with?

If anybody knows?

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
6. The United Kingdom did not drop a single bomb on Buenos Aires, Argentina
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 10:39 PM
Feb 2015

So his statement that he was in a War Zone or Combat Zone is a bald faced lie.

That MF-er knows his average viewer is geographically challenged and doesn't know the capital of Argentina is over 1,000 miles away from the Falkland Islands, an actual combat zone.

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
12. He could say he bombed the moon and the average viewer would believe him
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:38 PM
Feb 2015

There is no limit to how far "Combat zone" can be twisted in their minds.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. He could see the Falklands from his porch.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:58 AM
Feb 2015

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font][hr]

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
8. Associated Press -- BULLSHIT! You Rat Bastards!
Mon Feb 23, 2015, 11:02 PM
Feb 2015

"O'Reilly has said that he covered an anti-government demonstration in Buenos Aires that turned violent and that a photographer he was working with was knocked to the ground and was bleeding."

That is NOT what this is about and you f%$king know it!

Bill O-Reilly said he was in a "combat zone" in the "Falklands".

The AP does this kind of subtle, subversion ALL THE TIME.

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
21. Okay, AP did report the body and essence of O'Reilly's lies about the Falkland War.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 08:38 AM
Feb 2015

I see that now after reading closer.

I'm still bothered by a lot of the AP's news coverage. I often see them frame issues in ways that reinforce right-wing opinions. I think they rarely frame issues in ways that are favorable to liberal or progressive opinions.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
28. All the time with AP, subtle propaganda by leaving things out...they do it all the time. Good catch.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:06 PM
Feb 2015

On the good news front:

"Revenue declined 6% at the news and information-services unit that accounts for about two-thirds of News Corp's overall revenue. The unit, which comprises the company's newspaper holdings in Britain, Australia and the U.S., including The Wall Street Journal, reported a 15% drop in earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization."

cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
32. Its how they frame the issues.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 07:12 PM
Feb 2015

What they leave out is part of it. They often frame stories to support a right-wing perspective. I almost never see them frame stories to support a left perspective.

I kind-of jumped the gun on this one, though. But the point remains. Thanks.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
30. You bet; and I'm glad CBS released these, as they are indeed revealing.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:25 PM
Feb 2015

O'Lielly has often described his experience in Buenos Aires in the same breath as El Salvador, leading his (mostly provincial and bigoted) audience to believe they were in any way similar. This footage instead looks like a protest of the kind you could have seen in any number of European capitals at the time.

The only "war zone", one hopes, is the one that will erupt in New York courtrooms when Billo is sued by his former CBS colleagues and -I pray- fired.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
22. Did you notice
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 10:55 AM
Feb 2015

that the only "news person" in this clip who pronounced "junta" correctly (consistently) was Diane Sawyer?

forest444

(5,902 posts)
29. Now that you mention it, I hadn't. Good catch!
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 03:12 PM
Feb 2015

It's also worth mentioning that, until then, the news media was mostly supportive of the Junta (the "Proceso", as they were known in Argentina). Life Magazine was the worst.

That all changed with the Falklands invasion, of course - but fortunately so for Argentina's people, since the defeat forced the hard-line, far-right Galtieri to resign. His successor, Reynaldo Bignone, eased monetary and wage policy, restored labor rights, freed hundreds of political prisoners, and against the wishes of the rest of the Junta, called elections. All in all, the fiasco was a blessing in disguise.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
14. Looks like its turned into a pissing match. Its going nowhere.
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 12:25 AM
Feb 2015

Matter of fact, if Bill hadnt pitched such a fit it likely wouldve been off the news after a couple days
Still funny watching him get all huffy though

Midnight Writer

(21,745 posts)
15. O'Reilly also claimed he was on the porch of George de Mohrenschildt
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 01:08 AM
Feb 2015

and heard the gunshot that killed him. O'Reilly said that he was knocking on de Mohrenschildt's door for an ambush interview when he heard the shot, as though George was so afraid of facing O'Reilly that he had to end himself. I have no first hand knowledge of the truth here, but I have never seen the name of O'Reilly mentioned in connection to this from any other source than O'Reilly.

O'Reilly said he knew immediately what had happened, and so sadly turned away and left. Smells like BS to me, and I am a country boy.

navarth

(5,927 posts)
24. Wow...is that true?
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 11:23 AM
Feb 2015

After reading a couple of books on the Kennedy assassination, I find George de Mohrenschildt to be a fascinating character. Never was Billo the Clown mentioned...this is interesting. Does he say he shot Oswald too?

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
18. None of which would be happening if he had kept his mouth shut
Tue Feb 24, 2015, 02:38 AM
Feb 2015

about Brian Williams -- I'M LOVING IT!!!


rocktivity

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»CBS News releases video r...