Frat Suspended Over Notebook With Disturbing Entries On Rape, Lynching

[DonViejo]

Source: TPM

A fraternity at North Carolina State University was suspended Thursday after a so-called "pledge book" containing disturbing statements about rape and lynching surfaced.

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Local TV station WRAL reported a "pledge book" that appeared to belong to NC State's chapter of Pi Kappa Phi was found Thursday at a restaurant near campus. The book was filled with "racially and sexually charged language and derogatory comments about women and children," according to the news outlet.

"It will be short and painful, just like when I rape you," one comment read.

"If she's hot enough, she doesn't need a pulse," another said.

"That tree is so perfect for lynching," read a third.

Some of the comments in the book were signed. WRAL matched those names to a list of frat members listed on the chapter's website.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/pi-kappa-phi-nc-state-notebook

[smirkymonkey]

1. I just saw this on the news. It was sickening!

I think fraternities should be banned, nothing good ever comes from them. It's like they breed assholes and rapists.

[1StrongBlackMan]

5. I can think of a bunch of good that has come from fraternities ...

me being one of them! #NotAllFraternitiesJustSeeminglyThePredominentlywhiteOnes.

[smirkymonkey]

9. OK, White fraternities suck.

They are pretty much hotbeds of racism and sexism. Basically they are in training to become republican politicians and sociopathic business people.

[Eric Stratton]

16. The problems faced by.....

fraternities are exactly the same as are being exposed about the police.

Racist, abusive, violent, self-indulgent, insular, privileged, and protected.

Why are we so excited to hold Fraternities accountable while being so reluctant to hold police accountable? America perpetuates and condones racism by ignoring what the police are actually doing.

Police accountability would go a long distance to eliminating racism in America and there is a good argument that if Black were actually treated more equitably there would be less "crime" generally and fewer "criminals" whose lives were ruined by conviction

[d_legendary1]

20. The problem is that those guys who attend these fraternities

End up getting jobs as public servants, run for public office, or join corporations and end up getting high level positions. If they get away with their egregious behavior in college, they'll more than likely get away with it when they are in charge of people's lives. Once they infiltrate government they make it difficult to bring about change since they are loyal to the guys who know the secret hand shake instead of the people who voted for them into office.

[d_legendary1]

2. This shit reminds me of what the late Neil Rogers said about Fraternities

And its members. RIP Neil. FYI Neil was gay and proud. God I miss him.

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[yurbud]

17. I have always thought this, but hadn't heard any gays say the same thing

[d_legendary1]

18. Its not so much about what gay people are saying

Its more about how the fraternity culture creates degenerates. That was the essence of Neil's rant.

[yurbud]

19. attracts not creates

[d_legendary1]

21. I say creates

since the people who are accepted are the ones that have embraced the rules and regulations set by those who run the Fraternity.

[yurbud]

22. enables

[d_legendary1]

24. Agreed.

[Jefferson23]

3. The contempt for human life is stunning. n/t

[freshwest]

10. Where university educated Republicans learn their values. No surprises there. n/t

[Jefferson23]

11. The history is disturbing, and one that needs to evolve..the sooner the better:

The Company He Keeps: A History of White College Fraternities (Gender and American Culture) Paperback – March 1, 2009
by Nicholas L. Syrett (Author)

Tracing the full history of traditionally white college fraternities in America from their days in antebellum all-male schools to the sprawling modern-day college campus, Nicholas Syrett reveals how fraternity brothers have defined masculinity over the course of their 180-year history. Based on extensive research at twelve different schools and analyzing at least twenty national fraternities, The Company He Keeps explores many factors--such as class, religiosity, race, sexuality, athleticism, intelligence, and recklessness--that have contributed to particular versions of fraternal masculinity at different times. Syrett demonstrates the ways that fraternity brothers' masculinity has had consequences for other students on campus as well, emphasizing the exclusion of different groups of classmates and the sexual exploitation of female college students.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Company-He-Keeps-Fraternities/dp/0807859311

[niyad]

4. this is beyond disturbing. and yet, we are told repeatedly, there is NO war on women!

and there are people who actually defend the greek system.

[1StrongBlackMan]

6. As a PROUD member of a Predominently Black Greek Letter organization ...

I can tell you that some are better than others.

#NotAllFraternitiesJustSeeminglyThePredominentlywhiteOnes.

[niyad]

7. thank you. I know not all are horrible, but we are sure seeing a lot of them these days.

[1StrongBlackMan]

8. I know ...

Though, from time to time, we read/hear about some tragic/horrific hazing incident among the predominantly Black Fraternities (and Sororities) ... we rarely, if ever, hear/read about this or similar conduct because the original purpose and traditions of the predominantly Black Fraternities (and Sororities) are still very much relevant today.

We are not college social groups; rather, we are life long service organizations.

[Eric Stratton]

12. How about other boys clubs....

....the media is so happy to focus attention on finding the nexus of racism in fraternities and investigating and identifying the systemic causes while simultaneously ignoring and denying the quite obvious fact that the exact same institutional racism exists in every police department across the nation.

The media has been exploiting their "investigative journalism" to focus on rooting out and identifying racism and bias wherever it may exist within the Greek system while simultaneously providing oxygen tanks for police apologists to deny any systemic race or economic bias within police departments among the brotherhood of those "Sworn to Protect and Dedicated to Serve".

In an act of willful denial of the facts generated over the history of policing the media has been defender and promoter of this racism exacerbating the problem with the unquestioned deification of every cop as "Hero" following 9/11. The media, in spite of all the evidence, continues to promote and advocate police autonomy, the effective right of police to act and manage their activities beyond the reach or public review, and thereby the media prompts and defends systemic institutionalized bias borne of the exact same dialectic "Us Vs. Them" mentality that is common, taught, and expected in every "boys' club" environment from pee-wee football to Wall Street and resulting in the worst kind of behavior.

The media participates in the defense of this national police bias by promoting the traditional defense that any bad behavior by police is always isolated among only a couple of bad apples. When the DOJ found that there was Systemic and Institutionalized bias in Ferguson the media provided six times the air time to police apologists denying and defending against the DOJ. The DOJ has found institutionalized bias in every major police department that it has investigated from Seattle to New York and up and Los Angeles to Miami.

And, still the story the media reports and investigates is the problems of Fraternities and the systemic racism there while the media promotes the narrative of every cop as hero and the bias of police as just a few bad apples.

The fact is that the mainstream media is part of the problem and by its propaganda is promoting and defending bias across the nation.

[yurbud]

23. going after one does not exclude the other

[marshall]

13. When will these dolts realize there is no such thing as privacy now?

they should keep their repulsive thoughts locked away into the privacy of their own minds. Documenting their depraved musings in a diary is a step too far.

[Eric Stratton]

14. How is it .....

that just a couple of Fraternity incidents have raised the debate about dismantling the entire Greek system nationwide but 40 years of documented police homicide and violence against the public hasn't even opened a national debate on police accountability.

Nationwide there are more than 20 Police Departments that are operating under a consent decree with the DOJ because they cannot defend...they have no defense....to the findings of the DOJ of systemic institutionalized Civil Rights violations. And, in every case, the defense for police nationwide....against all the evidence....is that all these findings of Civil Rights abuse are all because of a few bad apples.

Seriously, if that were the case then why is it that the majority of the "Good True-Blue" cops do not identify and expose the "few bad apples" before they cause the entire force to look so bad. And, why is it that there are so many cops that support the most violent aggressive cops and so many that wear those "I Am XXXXX XXXXX" tee-shirts in support of some cop that shot an unarmed man or choked another man to death while violating department policy? Where are the good cops that stand up for the law and the Rights of Citizens and for Good Policing and the Rule of Law when they see another cop that fails to maintain their "high standards" of policing?

America has a problem with fraternities but the ones on campus are the least of our concern.

[yurbud]

15. it's time to admit this stuff is inherent to the frat system

[WhoWoodaKnew]

25. Trust me. NC State has a VERY racist student body. Not everybody,

but a WHOLE bunch of them. It's just who they are.