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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 03:08 PM Mar 2015

Thousands in Indy protest RFRA law

Source: Indianapolis Star

Thousands gathered in Downtown Indianapolis on Saturday to protest the passage this week of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.

The protesters chanted and held signs as they marched from Monument Circle to the Indiana Statehouse to express their displeasure at Gov. Mike Pence's signing of the religious freedom legislation on Thursday.

"No hate in our state," "Our State! Who's State?" and "Fix the bill" were some of the chants being heard in the background at the We Are Indiana rally,

An unidentified State Police trooper estimated that as many as 3,000 were in attendance at the height of the rally,

Read more: http://www.indystar.com/story/news/2015/03/28/hundreds-in-indy-protest-rfra-law/70594058/

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Thousands in Indy protest RFRA law (Original Post) Newsjock Mar 2015 OP
K&R, and the Greatest Page for you. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Mar 2015 #1
I wanted to go so badly! AwakeAtLast Mar 2015 #2
Mike Pence is an Indiana Hoser WillTwain Mar 2015 #3
Correction: Loser TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #4
That works WillTwain Mar 2015 #6
Buy one, get the other..........Free! TheCowsCameHome Mar 2015 #9
K&R gademocrat7 Mar 2015 #5
Christian Nuts Do Not Give A Shit. It Is Their Way Or The Highway. TheMastersNemesis Mar 2015 #7
They don't believe the states should be united. Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #14
And when they start losing business bvf Mar 2015 #33
K & R Thespian2 Mar 2015 #8
He's getting an earfull on his Facebook page right now! Snarkoleptic Mar 2015 #10
i will take a peek thanks riversedge Mar 2015 #25
make them pay captainarizona Mar 2015 #11
I've read the law. Its implications go far, far beyond LGBT rights shrike Mar 2015 #12
I'll give it 24 hours after July 1st until "Whites Only" signs pop up in bars. Chipper Chat Mar 2015 #13
You are right workinclasszero Mar 2015 #24
Well, they have their own time zone... eggplant Mar 2015 #15
Look at the definitions of "excercise of religion" and "demonstrates", incredibly broad. Fred Sanders Mar 2015 #17
People are already pushing the limits caraher Mar 2015 #23
Now we need someone to file papers for the "First Church of Woman's Right to Choose" n/t Stonepounder Mar 2015 #34
good one! <nt> caraher Mar 2015 #35
Can the courts in Indiana dictate which religious beliefs are valid and Zorra Mar 2015 #36
The standard is "sincerely held" caraher Mar 2015 #37
Whose religion? Marthe48 Mar 2015 #16
Divine law? What on earth is that? ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2015 #18
No matter what our personal belief is, Marthe48 Mar 2015 #29
These people are not actual Christians workinclasszero Mar 2015 #28
Boom...there it is! PassingFair Mar 2015 #32
Any college team sent to this bigoted place should send advance scouts to see if they are turned jtuck004 Mar 2015 #19
I hope its costs the state billions maindawg Mar 2015 #20
Hey Mike Pence, look at 'em all. photo..... riversedge Mar 2015 #21
Petition-->NCAA, Move the Big 10 Football Championship out of Indianapolis... riversedge Mar 2015 #22
I just signed and added: Chipper Chat Mar 2015 #30
Right on! Aldo Leopold Mar 2015 #26
RFRA could have some merit... Bozvotros Mar 2015 #27
This is great! Mahalo Newsjock! Go Indiana! FO Gov Dense. Cha Mar 2015 #31
 

TheMastersNemesis

(10,602 posts)
7. Christian Nuts Do Not Give A Shit. It Is Their Way Or The Highway.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 03:34 PM
Mar 2015

Their reply is if you don't like it just leave the state.

Snarkoleptic

(5,996 posts)
10. He's getting an earfull on his Facebook page right now!
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 03:47 PM
Mar 2015

He's got a video up called "Indiana’s on a roll. But there’s one thing holding us back..."

Lot's of fine folks are helping explain to him what's really holding Indiana back.
https://www.facebook.com/mikepence

 

captainarizona

(363 posts)
11. make them pay
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 03:56 PM
Mar 2015

The demonstrators should shut down the interstate highway it was very effective in the anti police violence campaign. I have written a screenplay on the effectiveness of people's roadblocks at:thealamoisavenged.com Also demand college presidents pull their teams from playing in indiana with college demonstrations and occupations of presidents office. Go after republican candidates running for office especially for president starting with the homophobes huckaboob and cruz. In 1968after the chicago convention police riot demonstrators would chant the whole world is watching at every candidate event so they couldn't campaign forcing humpty dumpty to be more anti-war then he wanted to be. Go get um and don't stop!

shrike

(3,817 posts)
12. I've read the law. Its implications go far, far beyond LGBT rights
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:09 PM
Mar 2015

Unless I misunderstand the wording, it means you can ignore a law if it goes against your religious beliefs. Use your imagination. This is a disaster waiting to happen.

Chipper Chat

(9,667 posts)
13. I'll give it 24 hours after July 1st until "Whites Only" signs pop up in bars.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:21 PM
Mar 2015

And it will be perfectly legal in Indiana.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
24. You are right
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:56 PM
Mar 2015

These so-called religious protection laws are just a covert way to bring back Jim Crow laws and legal segregation as it was in the south in the pre-civil rights era.

The damned SCOTUS already killed the voting rights act and now these hateful religious sharia laws will bring back legal separation of the races and discrimination against gay people.

eggplant

(3,906 posts)
15. Well, they have their own time zone...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:55 PM
Mar 2015

...it's like Eastern Time, but they set their clocks one century earlier.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
17. Look at the definitions of "excercise of religion" and "demonstrates", incredibly broad.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:08 PM
Mar 2015
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1696428-read-indianas-religious-freedom-restoration-act.html

"exercise of religion" means " any exercise of religion, whether compelled by, or central to, a system of religious belief"

The law is a hodgepodge of vagueness that permits discrimination and then compels the government to act to stop the discrimination and then ties the hands of the judicial branch because the burden is on the government to show there is discrimination.

That is what it is, and the legal beagles of the GOP are hiding behind the "the courts will take care of it", while undermining the courts.

It may appear clever, but it is transparently evil and a stark violation of the federal supreme law.

caraher

(6,278 posts)
23. People are already pushing the limits
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:54 PM
Mar 2015

I give you the First Church of Cannabis:

INDIANAPOLIS - Paperwork for the First Church of Cannabis Inc. was filed Thursday – the same day Gov. Mike Pence signed the Religious Freedom Restoration Act into law.

Church founder Bill Levin, who filed paperwork with the Secretary of State's office to register the church as a non-profit, posted to his Facebook page that church and its "cannataerians" would seek "love, understanding and good health."

<snip>

According to Levin's Facebook page, members of the First Church of Cannabis will be asked for individual donations of $4.20 a month.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
36. Can the courts in Indiana dictate which religious beliefs are valid and
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 05:06 PM
Mar 2015

which are not, on a case by case basis?

caraher

(6,278 posts)
37. The standard is "sincerely held"
Sun Mar 29, 2015, 05:45 PM
Mar 2015

The law is even very clear that you need not even show your religious belief is something central to your religion, or point to any evidence that others in your religion share your view. You just have to be "sincere."

So I guess on a case-by-case basis, courts are to test one's sincerity.

Marthe48

(16,880 posts)
16. Whose religion?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:05 PM
Mar 2015

Jesus Christ himself told the people he was talking to: "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's and unto the Lord what is the Lord's" This law disobeys human and divine law and ignores the separation of church and state. Why are people like this elected?

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
18. Divine law? What on earth is that?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:10 PM
Mar 2015

You mean we need to hear voices in our head to get the full meaning of such law?

Marthe48

(16,880 posts)
29. No matter what our personal belief is,
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:48 PM
Mar 2015

if rightwingers are spouting religion to justify their extremism, I want them to know I know they are way off. On behalf of everything else I care about, I do not accept their twisted view of faith, and I'll quote the Bible ACCURATELY at them when they do crap like this. Chapter and verse.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
28. These people are not actual Christians
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:56 PM
Mar 2015

They just use His name as a weapon of hate sadly.

If they followed the teachings of Jesus there would be no religious right wing at all.

And they sure as heck would not be republicans, the protectors of the rich and haters of the poor!

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
19. Any college team sent to this bigoted place should send advance scouts to see if they are turned
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:11 PM
Mar 2015

away -

If so, it might be dangerous for their team to go at all. Will the good citizens even call an ambulance if they see you injured, or deny that too?

If I am a parent, I might consider your school or business negligent if something happens that seems perfectly predictable right now. They better be spending some money being careful, else there may be some big lawsuits ahead.

ISIS must love Pence. Are they donating to his campaign? He is showing how we could be just like them.

 

maindawg

(1,151 posts)
20. I hope its costs the state billions
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:23 PM
Mar 2015

in lawsuits. I hope the gay lawyers association hounds these assholes to the ends of the earth. So many bad things will happen , then the KKK will start their shit and the ACLU brings this all the way to the supreme court.
Any organization that does not exit Indiana such as the NCAA ,should be held accountable in the most aggressive ways possible.
The founders were very clear on this point.

riversedge

(70,015 posts)
21. Hey Mike Pence, look at 'em all. photo.....
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:30 PM
Mar 2015



Dat White Genocider ?@Anomaly100 6m6 minutes ago

Hey Mike Pence, look at 'em all. Thousands of them protesting the discrimination bill you signed. #BoycottIndiana

riversedge

(70,015 posts)
22. Petition-->NCAA, Move the Big 10 Football Championship out of Indianapolis...
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:45 PM
Mar 2015


Petition-->NCAA, Move the Big 10 Football Championship out of Indianapolis https://www.change.org/p/ncaa-to-move-the-big-ten-football-championship-out-of-indianapolis #BoycottIndiana #LGTB

Chipper Chat

(9,667 posts)
30. I just signed and added:
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 08:08 PM
Mar 2015

Send Mike Pence and the Indiana legislators a message: Don't let the churches push you around."

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