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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:23 PM May 2015

Ben Carson Officially Announces Run For President In 2016

Source: Huffington Post

Celebrated neurosurgeon Ben Carson has officially announced his intention to run for president.

“I’m willing to be part of the equation and therefore, I’m announcing my candidacy for President of the United States of America," Carson told Ohio's WKRC.

USA Today reports Carson also told WPEC in Florida that he will be a part of the 2016 race. Carson is expected to speak on his presidential run at an event in Detroit on Monday.

A darling of the conservative movement, Carson enters a crowded Republican field jostling for position ahead of what is expected to be a very competitive primary. He maintains a large following with grass-roots conservatives, which is likely to put him on a collision course with other potential rivals who are popular on the right, such as Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee.

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/03/ben-carson-president-2016_n_6481534.html

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Ben Carson Officially Announces Run For President In 2016 (Original Post) IDemo May 2015 OP
Add another seat to the clown car. Getting crowded in there! LibDemAlways May 2015 #1
Car? IDemo May 2015 #8
good one! chillfactor May 2015 #34
Love that picture...ain't no car,,,i is a bus..a big bus... Stuart G May 2015 #47
Now, a good wind will blow it over, these guys are so full of bullshit and wind, they'll RKP5637 May 2015 #52
The first time they attempt a turn, over it goes. tclambert May 2015 #67
Welcome to the GOP Clown Car Ben. -nt- 99th_Monkey May 2015 #2
I thought he died. Wasn't he the one that had a late-night talk show? BlueJazz May 2015 #3
It's all a scam n2doc May 2015 #4
Yep shenmue May 2015 #5
Exactly! LoisB May 2015 #23
+3 nomorenomore08 May 2015 #27
that's what I was thinking notadmblnd May 2015 #30
don'y forget that plum job as a Fox News analyst! rurallib May 2015 #38
+bazillion BumRushDaShow May 2015 #41
It doesn't work that way. former9thward May 2015 #45
Sorry. I guess I should have said "PAC" money n2doc May 2015 #54
Every billionaire needs a candidate to support Gothmog May 2015 #63
wow! the clown car is really getting crowded.... chillfactor May 2015 #6
YES! radiclib May 2015 #7
They need clown bus... Historic NY May 2015 #9
I guess I'm the only one 840high May 2015 #10
Uh, I'm betting you're right. BlueStater May 2015 #13
Really? IDemo May 2015 #14
He'll never win - I don't pay attention 840high May 2015 #16
Such as...? DeadLetterOffice May 2015 #17
He was first surgeon to separate 840high May 2015 #20
That figures. Dividing people is what the GOP is all about. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #25
bwahahahaaaa!!! CountAllVotes May 2015 #87
I really did laugh out loud Tom Ripley May 2015 #92
must not have been enough money in it for him notadmblnd May 2015 #32
I guess Dr. Carson qualifies as an idiot savant rury May 2015 #36
Most Republicans separate people at the head IronLionZion May 2015 #84
In fairness, before Carson morphed into a whack job, his biography was pretty inspiring RufusTFirefly May 2015 #22
"He obviously should've stuck to surgery." If he had, I'd probably admire him too. n/t nomorenomore08 May 2015 #28
In fairness, Carson is a HYPOCRITE who now decries rury May 2015 #42
The worst kind of hypocrite.. devoid of human compassion but can lie his damn head off at the drop Cha May 2015 #81
^^^THIS^^^ Tom Ripley May 2015 #94
Incredible work shaayecanaan May 2015 #21
"he cuts half of their brain out." Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #40
+1 K&R rury May 2015 #46
Doc Carson was brilliant at his trade RVN VET May 2015 #71
Like I said, typical nouveau riche behaviour shaayecanaan May 2015 #78
I Doubt That erpowers May 2015 #73
Thats easy, he'll just swing back to the centre like Hillary will shaayecanaan May 2015 #75
I doubt That Too erpowers May 2015 #76
you're being funny. Right? notadmblnd May 2015 #31
Nope. Medical 840high May 2015 #48
As I said down thread, there must not have been enough money in it for him notadmblnd May 2015 #49
He's 63 - I don't blame him 840high May 2015 #65
I didn't take anything away from him notadmblnd May 2015 #66
How do you know what 840high May 2015 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author notadmblnd May 2015 #74
neurosurgery is grueling work gwheezie May 2015 #79
You might be right. 840high May 2015 #88
Why? Because he's a credit to his rage? Tom Ripley May 2015 #93
Well, the GOP has their token black guy for this presidential election cycle. BlueStater May 2015 #11
According to Republican logic... svpadgham May 2015 #50
They actually thought Palin would get the women's vote IronLionZion May 2015 #85
And two,...count 'em; two Latinos!... DonViejo May 2015 #56
The GOP base won't know whether to vote for him NorthCarolina May 2015 #69
^^^THIS^^^ AKA "He's a good one" Tom Ripley May 2015 #95
Carson Thespian2 May 2015 #12
It's all about the book. mountain grammy May 2015 #15
He is the black maindawg May 2015 #18
He must have a book coming out. Ruby the Liberal May 2015 #19
oh it gets better and better - LiberalElite May 2015 #24
Geeze, another one? Imagine how much $$$ will go into all those coffers. Paper Roses May 2015 #26
K&R just for the freak show spectacle of it all. nomorenomore08 May 2015 #29
Is he different than the pizza guy? jalan48 May 2015 #33
Yes, that was Herman Cain n/t IDemo May 2015 #59
Thanks-I thought the role might be type cast. jalan48 May 2015 #70
So, let's see. . .that's Cruz, Rubio, Paul, Christie, Walker, Santorum, Huckabee, Trump, Bush, Suji to Seoul May 2015 #35
Carly Failurina IDemo May 2015 #37
How could I forget that uber lightweight yutz? What a pile of shit the GOP is offering Suji to Seoul May 2015 #43
Jindal and Perry are still on the sidelines, TexasTowelie May 2015 #51
Rick Roll and Howdy Doody too? Twenty candidate, four collective brain cells between them. Suji to Seoul May 2015 #57
John Kasich and Rick Snyder are reported to have some interest. Jim Lane May 2015 #82
Right this way Ben Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #39
He has the KKK vote sew up. Katashi_itto May 2015 #44
Now, it's time for Donald Trump to get his hair in a knot and announce. n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #53
he has to cindyperry May 2015 #61
Yep, and getting crusty, all tangled and all. He's gotta get it ready for the flyaway look. n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #62
Tea Party/GOP will not run a black candidate. douggg May 2015 #55
I agree Gothmog May 2015 #64
They ran West MosheFeingold May 2015 #86
"They ran West" douggg May 2015 #89
Sorry, I misunderstood MosheFeingold May 2015 #91
Amazing he is able to squeeze into the clown car Skittles May 2015 #58
wow cindyperry May 2015 #60
And the clown car posse Bartlet May 2015 #72
It's not a clown car any more; it's a clown 747. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2015 #77
And I would like to officially announce his failure to survive the primary. silvershadow May 2015 #80
Put another helping of CRAZY on the GOP clown plate. RBInMaine May 2015 #83
I think I will throw my hat in the ring also. olddad56 May 2015 #90

RKP5637

(67,111 posts)
52. Now, a good wind will blow it over, these guys are so full of bullshit and wind, they'll
Sun May 3, 2015, 09:11 PM
May 2015

do it themselves.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
67. The first time they attempt a turn, over it goes.
Sun May 3, 2015, 10:29 PM
May 2015

So they're stuck on the course to Koch cuckoo land until voters laugh them off the road.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
4. It's all a scam
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:32 PM
May 2015

The fringe GOP candidates all know they have no chance. He's just hoping to get bankrolled by some billionaires and then run off with the unspent campaign dollars once he gets crushed in the first primary. And probably to sell his book.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
30. that's what I was thinking
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:22 PM
May 2015

there has to be a money making scheme going on here. Scammers one and all.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
45. It doesn't work that way.
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:48 PM
May 2015

You can't take unspent dollars and "run off" with them. You can't convert them to personal use. Billionaires can't give more than the individual limit (about $2700). He may be using the campaign to sell books or some other purpose.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
54. Sorry. I guess I should have said "PAC" money
Sun May 3, 2015, 09:17 PM
May 2015
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/campaign-finance-senators-house-members-campaign-funds-retire/story?id=10203316

Turns out that despite strict Federal Election Commission rules, Bayh and other exiting elected officials do have ways to keep unspent political contributions.

According to the Center for Responsive Politics, there are 25 senators and representatives this year who have announced their retirement and who are collectively sitting on $31 million in authorized campaign committee cash.

While the F.E.C. clearly says campaign committee cash can't be tapped for personal use, there are no such stipulations for certain political action committees, most controversially "leadership PACs" that elected officials can use to support various political causes other than their own.

Lucrative Loophole

Of the 25 members of Congress who have said they are stepping down, 18 have leadership PACs with a combined $850,000, according to CRP analysis.

"There's a wide gap, if not a gulf, between what lawmakers can do with regular campaign money versus leadership PAC money," said Dave Levinthal, communications director for the Washington, D.C.-based CRP. "The question comes up: What can politicians do with the leftover PAC money, and the answer is pretty much whatever they want."


See also

http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Saving-Money/2012/1111/The-election-is-over.-What-happens-to-all-that-campaign-cash

Lots of loopholes there

chillfactor

(7,576 posts)
6. wow! the clown car is really getting crowded....
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:36 PM
May 2015

when are any of these clowns going to have time to answer questions during a debate...will each candidate get one question? funny

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
14. Really?
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:48 PM
May 2015
-- In the ensuing months and years, Carson’s attacks grew sharper — deriding Obama’s signature health-care law as the “worst thing to have happened in this nation since slavery” and, in the pages of GQ, likening Obama to a “psychopath.” Carson’s 2014 book, “One Nation,” assails a decline of moral values in America and its government.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/as-ben-carson-bashes-obama-many-blacks-see-a-heros-legacy-fade/2015/05/02/b9ce53c8-e850-11e4-9767-6276fc9b0ada_story.html
 

840high

(17,196 posts)
16. He'll never win - I don't pay attention
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:54 PM
May 2015

to his politics. There are other things to admire him for.

rury

(1,021 posts)
36. I guess Dr. Carson qualifies as an idiot savant
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:34 PM
May 2015

Great at neurosurgery but pathetic at everything regarding public affairs and common sense about society.
The jackass said Obamacare is worse than slavery

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/10/11/ben-carson-obamacare-worst-thing-since-slavery/

and partially blamed the unrest in Ferguson, MO following the fatal shooting of Michael Brown on "feminism."

http://www.salon.com/2014/12/01/ben_carson_suggests_feminists_are_partly_responsible_for_ferguson/

Now if he believes either of these things he is seriously intellectually challenged and if he does not believe them but is saying them to pander to his right-wing racist base then he is seriously ethically challenged for making such irresponsible, outrageous claims that he KNOWS are false in order to win votes.

Either way, he's the token black candidate like Herman Cain was in 2012. No shot at winning but he's good at making the bigots in the Republikkkan Party feel like they "are not racists."
at Ben Carson!!

IronLionZion

(45,457 posts)
84. Most Republicans separate people at the head
Mon May 4, 2015, 07:03 AM
May 2015

I'm glad the fringe candidates are running. It helps turn normal people away from their party and the extremists away from their eventual nominee, which will probably be Jeb.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
22. In fairness, before Carson morphed into a whack job, his biography was pretty inspiring
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:04 PM
May 2015

A poor kid with a strong-willed but illiterate mother, he grew up to become one of the country's most celebrated neurosurgeons. He obviously should've stuck to surgery.

rury

(1,021 posts)
42. In fairness, Carson is a HYPOCRITE who now decries
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:42 PM
May 2015

the food stamps and public assistance that HIS family had to rely on. Like most rightwingers he gives himself and his family a pass for the help they received, but berates and poverty-shames others who have to do the same.

http://wonkette.com/550031/ben-carson-so-glad-his-welfare-mom-wasnt-dependent-on-government
Ummm...yes his mom WAS!!

I cannot stand Dr. Ben Carson!!

Cha

(297,322 posts)
81. The worst kind of hypocrite.. devoid of human compassion but can lie his damn head off at the drop
Mon May 4, 2015, 03:58 AM
May 2015

of hat.

It negates the legacy he had up until he decided to go all sociopath on his ass.

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
21. Incredible work
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:03 PM
May 2015

To stop people from having mal seizures, he cuts half of their brain out. Half of their motherfucking brain! And the person wakes up as if nothing happened. Apparently there are a few language issues, but the other half of the brain picks up the stuff that the other half used to do.

That is some knock-on-your-arse amazing shit. Seriously.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hemispherectomy

He is overcompensating a bit, and is also displaying some very typically nouveau riche behaviour (I made it, so all the people I left behind must not be trying hard enough). Still, if he ever obtained the nomination, he would probably win the election.

RVN VET

(492 posts)
71. Doc Carson was brilliant at his trade
Sun May 3, 2015, 11:24 PM
May 2015

Pol Carson is irrational, illogical, and delusional. His medical brilliance will not cover up his political dimness. I admired tremendously his achievements, admired even more the mother who guided and helped him succeed and who, despite her own illiteracy as an adult, was able at an advanced age to learn and, through immensely hard work, earn her High School diploma.

Bravo to them both!

But it was with much chagrin that I discovered Dr. Carson's entry into politics to be filled with tired and ludicrous right wing fantasy and, sadly, a disdainful abhorrence of serious inquiry into issues that tear at the heart and soul of the Country.

As a doctor, he was an angel. As a politician, a buffoon. I do not believe that he would offer a challenge to any -- any -- Democratic nominee.

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
78. Like I said, typical nouveau riche behaviour
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:45 AM
May 2015

He's pulling down seven figures a year being a neurosurgeon, mostly everyone else from his childhood is probably still dirt poor. He can rescue his mum, maybe his immediate family, but then what do you do? You can still go to your childhood best friend's birthday party if you like, but only certain people have the panache to pull something like that off. If not its pretty bloody awkward pulling up in your Maybach.

Most people in that situation try and put as much mileage between themselves and the poverty of their childhood as they can, and unfortunately that's what he's doing. Bit tragic really.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
73. I Doubt That
Sun May 3, 2015, 11:53 PM
May 2015

You wrote that if he were to win the nomination he would likely win the election. I doubt he would win the election. Most Americans are opposed to his views. He pretty much so wants to get rid of the entire safety net system. If he just wanted to get rid of TANF and SNAP maybe he would have a chance. However, he also wants to get rid of Medicare and Medicaid. He may also want to get rid of Social Security. In 2012 two guys like him ran for election and they got stumped. I do not see how his being a neurosurgeon would make a difference for him.

shaayecanaan

(6,068 posts)
75. Thats easy, he'll just swing back to the centre like Hillary will
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:16 AM
May 2015

if she wins the nomination. Goodbye to the Apple-esque ads of gay couples and minorities and hello to soft focus shots of hardworking white Americans in truckers' hats.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
76. I doubt That Too
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:22 AM
May 2015

I doubt that Dr. Ben Carson would change his views, or begin to express different views. Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan run in the general election with the same ideas. First, I just to not think he would move to the center to win. Second, if Romney/Ryan did not move to the center on those issues what makes you think Carson would move to the center?

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
49. As I said down thread, there must not have been enough money in it for him
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:53 PM
May 2015

Sad huh? That he does what ever it is he does for money and not to help humanity. Not a lot to admire there if you were to ask me.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
65. He's 63 - I don't blame him
Sun May 3, 2015, 10:24 PM
May 2015

for retiring. While he worked he was an amazing neurosurgeon. I will not take that away from him because he's not a Dem.

 

840high

(17,196 posts)
68. How do you know what
Sun May 3, 2015, 10:29 PM
May 2015

his motivation is? Honest question. I know more about his medical career than his political career.

Response to 840high (Reply #68)

gwheezie

(3,580 posts)
79. neurosurgery is grueling work
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:53 AM
May 2015

I don't doubt that he may have assessed his ability to perform at the level he had reached and decided it was time to retire. I think its more than money for him. He came from humble beginnings and became a hero and savior. I think he can't live without that.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
11. Well, the GOP has their token black guy for this presidential election cycle.
Sun May 3, 2015, 07:46 PM
May 2015

I expect his chances of winning the nomination will be about as good as Alan Keyes and Herman Cain's were.

svpadgham

(670 posts)
50. According to Republican logic...
Sun May 3, 2015, 09:08 PM
May 2015

He should get about 97% of the black vote, because the oooonly reason black people voted for Obama was the color of his skin. I wonder how much of the black republican vote Herman Cain received in the primaries?

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
56. And two,...count 'em; two Latinos!...
Sun May 3, 2015, 09:24 PM
May 2015

Carnival Cruz and Rubio. Oh, and a white guy who speaks fluent Spanish. The GOP big tent; tokens.

Paper Roses

(7,473 posts)
26. Geeze, another one? Imagine how much $$$ will go into all those coffers.
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:18 PM
May 2015

Will they all debate together? What a dog and pony show that will be.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
29. K&R just for the freak show spectacle of it all.
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:22 PM
May 2015

The GOP primary fight this time around should be amusing to say the least.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
35. So, let's see. . .that's Cruz, Rubio, Paul, Christie, Walker, Santorum, Huckabee, Trump, Bush,
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:27 PM
May 2015

and now Carson. Am I forgetting any of them?

What a gaggle of worm infested shit that side is offering? And each one is considered electable by the media. But Bernie Sanders is not.

Amazing.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
43. How could I forget that uber lightweight yutz? What a pile of shit the GOP is offering
Sun May 3, 2015, 08:44 PM
May 2015

And they will still get at least 40% of the vote.

 

Suji to Seoul

(2,035 posts)
57. Rick Roll and Howdy Doody too? Twenty candidate, four collective brain cells between them.
Sun May 3, 2015, 09:44 PM
May 2015

And I am being generous on giving all of them four brain cells.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
82. John Kasich and Rick Snyder are reported to have some interest.
Mon May 4, 2015, 04:08 AM
May 2015

Either of them, as the Governor of a large Midwestern state (Ohio and Michigan, respectively), would have a better chance in November than some of the wackier right-wingers.

Fortunately, neither has much chance of getting the nomination. Aside from their low name recognition, each has committed heresy in the eyes of the conservative base. Kasich supported Medicaid expansion. Snyder supported anti-discrimination protection for gays and lesbians (I don't know if it would include transpersons).

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
86. They ran West
Mon May 4, 2015, 10:32 AM
May 2015

Also a guy on the Texas border, who was something big at Texas AM.

I participated in a large study of TEA party rallies for a liberal organization.

They took lots of photographs of crowds and did random surveys of the participants. Black males (generally ex-military), Protestant Hispanics, and Jewish people were over-represented at the TEA Party rallies. Asians and non-church going, but self-identified Catholic, Hispanics were under-represented.

No one could ever figure out why, or at least they didn't share that info with me.

They do do a good job at crushing the overt racist types (e.g., David Duke, etc) so the bad press is averted.

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
91. Sorry, I misunderstood
Mon May 4, 2015, 12:55 PM
May 2015

But don't challenge them. They are dumb enough to run West even though he couldn't muster a second term in Congress.

 

silvershadow

(10,336 posts)
80. And I would like to officially announce his failure to survive the primary.
Mon May 4, 2015, 01:07 AM
May 2015

I would like to, but I am not in any way affiliated with his campaign.

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