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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 11:18 AM Jun 2015

Google Manipulates Search Results, According to Study From Yelp and Legal Star Tim Wu

Source: ReCode

Google knowingly manipulates search results according to a research paper published Monday from several academics. The study presents evidence that the search giant sets out to hamper competitors and limit consumers’ options. The paper lands as Google prepares to release its response to the European Union investigation, which rests on similar claims about Google’s comparison-shopping product.

The paper was authored by Tim Wu, the legal scholar and former FTC adviser, which is notable as he had previously penned a column in the New Republic saying that Google had successfully cleared a Federal Trade Commission investigation into search bias on its own merits, and not because of its lobbying prowess.

Now, two years later, Wu is making an about-face.

“When the facts change, your thinking should change,” Wu told Re/code about the evolution of his stance. “The main surprising and shocking realization is that Google is not presenting its best product. In fact, it’s presenting a version of the product that’s degraded and intentionally worse for consumers.” He added: “This is the closest I’ve seen Google come to [being] the Microsoft case.”

Read more: http://recode.net/2015/06/29/yelp-teams-with-legal-star-tim-wu-to-trounce-google-in-new-study

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Google Manipulates Search Results, According to Study From Yelp and Legal Star Tim Wu (Original Post) onehandle Jun 2015 OP
K & R, especially for Tim Wu, who should be New York's Lieutenant Governor n/t RufusTFirefly Jun 2015 #1
After reading the entire article, Google is no longer my main search engine results. BlueJazz Jun 2015 #2
Not its best product. snort Jun 2015 #3
That's why I only use "Duck Duck Go" as my search engine. eom a kennedy Jun 2015 #4
I learned about them from DU. May have been you!! nt 7962 Jun 2015 #10
Have mentioned every time I could. a kennedy Jun 2015 #21
Ditto LiberalEsto Jun 2015 #20
Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award rocktivity Jun 2015 #5
You prefer science by anecdote? GeorgeGist Jun 2015 #8
I usually just glance through page 1 of the search cosmicone Jun 2015 #6
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2015 #7
Is anyone really surprised by this news? I'm not 7962 Jun 2015 #9
no study needed to know that SoLeftIAmRight Jun 2015 #11
I also don't trust Yelp. Saviolo Jun 2015 #12
Never liked Yelp d_legendary1 Jun 2015 #13
I typed in the name of my two-year-old blog and the subject of an article. rocktivity Jun 2015 #14
For me, it's Netscape and Infoseek or nothing. Orrex Jun 2015 #15
Probably JonLP24 Jun 2015 #16
I've been pretty frustrated with Google's product searches lately passiveporcupine Jun 2015 #17
Comparing Google to Microsoft? Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2015 #18
Duck Duck Go...forget about Google nradisic Jun 2015 #19
Hmm... let me google "Is water wet?" n/t winter is coming Jun 2015 #22
I've long been suspicious of how Google search results are manipulated... cascadiance Jun 2015 #23
I try not to consume much. YOHABLO Jun 2015 #24

snort

(2,334 posts)
3. Not its best product.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 11:47 AM
Jun 2015

No shit. Since I can no longer search using 'discussion' as a filter, I'm guessing 'cuz that doesn't lead to websites where you can BUY! BUY! BUY!, google is nearly useless to me.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
5. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 12:02 PM
Jun 2015

The "To Figure This Out, You Had To Do A Freaking STUDY???" Category.


rocktivity

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
6. I usually just glance through page 1 of the search
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 12:03 PM
Jun 2015

and start on page 2 on .. that is where the real search results are found.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
9. Is anyone really surprised by this news? I'm not
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 01:05 PM
Jun 2015

Through DU I learned about duck duck go. No tracking

Saviolo

(3,282 posts)
12. I also don't trust Yelp.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 01:36 PM
Jun 2015

My husband opened a restaurant, and Yelp pesters him constantly to purchase advertising, which he can't afford yet (still a new business, still building that client base!)

Yelp has a system of "Preferred Reviews" and reviews that are not recommended by Yelp, usually from people with no people listed as friends, and only one or two reviews in total. What he found however, is that many businesses are complaining that if they don't go for Yelp's advertising, or do go for it, and then stop, their "preferred reviews" are suddenly lacking some of the better reviews that were there previously. They make a big deal on the site about businesses "not being able to pay to remove reviews." However, if you don't pay, some of those good reviews are suddenly "non-preferred" and do not contribute to your average score.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
13. Never liked Yelp
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 01:51 PM
Jun 2015

Some of my favorite places have been trashed by some reviewers who had a bad time with a waiter instead of the place overall. I consider it the "For a good time call" of restaurant critiques.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
14. I typed in the name of my two-year-old blog and the subject of an article.
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 01:59 PM
Jun 2015

Based on the first one hundred the search results:

Go Duck Go: #1

Yahoo: #1

Bing: 0

Google: 0


rocktivity

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
16. Probably
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 02:12 PM
Jun 2015

but I know what propaganda looks like--especially in cases I know the real story or the way they sell the story but in any case I keep digging for the truth.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
17. I've been pretty frustrated with Google's product searches lately
Mon Jun 29, 2015, 02:17 PM
Jun 2015

And I think they are somehow connected to Amazon...they just love showing you Amazon finds.

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