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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 03:08 PM Jul 2015

US Only Country To Stand With Israel As UNHRC Approves Gaza Resolution

Source: Jerusalem Post

The United States was the only country to stand with Israel as a majority of the United Nations Human Rights Council voted on Friday to hold the Jewish state accountable for human rights violations during its war with Hamas in Gaza last summer.

“We are troubled that this resolution focuses exclusively on Israel,” US Ambassador to the UN in Geneva Keith Harper said as he explained why his country voted against the motion.

He added that his country was also disappointed “that this council does not acknowledge the violent attacks [by Palestinian armed groups] against Israel.”

Some 41 of the 47 member UNHRC states that met in Geneva on Friday afternoon approved the resolution which stemmed from a report on last summer’s Operation Protective Edge, that was submitted to the UNHRC last month by its fact-finding mission. This including those UNHRC member states which belong to the European Union, such France, Germany, Ireland, Latvia and the Netherlands.

Read more: http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Politics-And-Diplomacy/US-only-country-to-stand-with-Israel-as-UNHRC-approves-Gaza-resolution-407936

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US Only Country To Stand With Israel As UNHRC Approves Gaza Resolution (Original Post) Purveyor Jul 2015 OP
arghhhhh.... peacebird Jul 2015 #1
Violent attacks timdog44 Jul 2015 #2
List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2014 oberliner Jul 2015 #3
Not hard to find a list like that. timdog44 Jul 2015 #4
You asked about violent attacks on Israel oberliner Jul 2015 #5
I don't timdog44 Jul 2015 #6
"Missles fired at positions where Israelis had no business being"? oberliner Jul 2015 #8
So says who and so what. timdog44 Jul 2015 #10
The missles are being fired into Israel Mosby Jul 2015 #11
Tell me where Israel is timdog44 Jul 2015 #12
there are no Israelis in Palestine Mosby Jul 2015 #13
You can timdog44 Jul 2015 #16
None of Israel in range of Gaza is disputed territory hack89 Jul 2015 #14
To the timdog44 Jul 2015 #17
So all of Israel is Palestine? hack89 Jul 2015 #20
I am not anti Israel timdog44 Jul 2015 #22
But do you support a two state solution? hack89 Jul 2015 #23
It would only be the way to make it work. timdog44 Jul 2015 #24
Palestine will be a theocracy too. Nt hack89 Jul 2015 #25
No doubt. timdog44 Jul 2015 #26
Exactly. Israel threw all cameras and journalist out of Gaza including Red Cross so their atrocities bjobotts Jul 2015 #15
Similarly when timdog44 Jul 2015 #18
7 in 10 killed were Palestinian duhneece Jul 2015 #7
That was highlighted in the resolution oberliner Jul 2015 #9
What fucking bullshit is that? Telcontar Jul 2015 #19
Good god, you must be dense. The Palestinians are not getting arms and gobs of money from the US davidpdx Jul 2015 #21
You would be right if all things were equal, like the US support duhneece Jul 2015 #27
Although most don't know, the US is umbilically tied to Israel because of the Bible...Old libdem4life Jul 2015 #28

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
2. Violent attacks
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:03 AM
Jul 2015

Against Israel? WTF is he talking about? Makes it hard to come up with a term for the atrocities committed against Palestine by the poor oppressed Israelis.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. List of Palestinian rocket attacks on Israel, 2014
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 08:21 AM
Jul 2015

This is a detailed list of Palestinian rocket and mortar attacks on Israel in 2014. All of the attacks originated in the Gaza Strip, unless stated otherwise. For information pertaining to the wider conflict, see Arab-Israeli conflict and Israeli–Palestinian conflict. This list does not include reports of deaths and injuries caused by Hamas rocket and mortar attacks that fell within Gaza.

In total, all the rockets launched on Israel in 2014 resulted in 8 deaths and 60 injuries. All the fatalities occurred during Operation Protective Edge.

On 5 March, the Israeli Navy intercepted a ship containing dozens of long-range rockets being smuggled from Iran to the Gaza Strip.[1]

On 10 March, Hamas, the Palestinian Islamist group that controls the Gaza Strip, unveiled a monument to its rocket attacks on Israeli cities and towns, a life-sized model of an M-75 rocket in Gaza City. The group declared that the attacks "managed to take the battle to the heart of the Zionist entity (Israel)".[2]

On 23 April, Fatah and Hamas signed a reconciliation deal.[3]

In July, the number of rocket attacks launched toward Israel from Gaza increased dramatically. Eighty rockets were fired on 7 July.[4] On the following day, Israel launched Operation Protective Edge.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_rocket_attacks_on_Israel,_2014

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
4. Not hard to find a list like that.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:06 AM
Jul 2015

When searching for rocket attacks on Palestine by Israel, we are re directed to Palestinian attacks on Israel. How like the control of the internet is that. It is like throwing rocks at an atom bomb. Reports in the reverse are hidden and revised to make it look like Israel is an innocent in the middle east. Far from it.

In 2014 8 deaths. We had that many in an African Church in the USA on one day.

The Palestinians have suffered under apartheid and other atrocities for years so that the US could protect oil interests in the middle east. Time to let things be things. We give aid to Israel and pretend it is for food and humanitarian reasons. Most is arms, guns and planes. Along with intelligence gathering material to be used against us. Israel even missile attacked one of the USs military boats in the Mediterranean Sea for which no acknowledgement or compensation was profered. Remember the Liberty?!!

So uberlner, I mean, oberliner, I suggest you do some research and see what has truly happened.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
5. You asked about violent attacks on Israel
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:12 AM
Jul 2015

You wrote "WTF is he talking about?"

Those rocket attacks are what he was talking about.

The suffering of the Palestinians is detailed in the resolution.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
6. I don't
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:17 AM
Jul 2015

really consider those violent attacks. Missles fired at positions where Israelis had no business being. More than likely positions that Palestinians called home for many years. Like I said it is throwing rocks at an atomic bomb.

I will withdraw my statements. There is no winning this argument. A person is either pro or anti Israel. And I am most assuredly anti Israel with no solution in site. Hard for me to see a people who were so traumatized in WW2 doing the same now.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. "Missles fired at positions where Israelis had no business being"?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:21 AM
Jul 2015

The missiles were not guided towards specific positions.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
10. So says who and so what.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:45 AM
Jul 2015

The Israelis have taken over so much territory that is not there's, that yes, they are where they do not belong. The radical Israelis behave like the KKK of the USA. No morals - no ethics - no religion.

Mosby

(16,247 posts)
11. The missles are being fired into Israel
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 12:34 PM
Jul 2015

Israelis don't belong in Israel?

Where do they belong then?

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
12. Tell me where Israel is
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 02:58 PM
Jul 2015

and tell me where Palestine is and tell me who was where first and tell me about the poor Israelis who are suffering like the Palestinians and I will tell you where they belong. You have a brain. Put it to use. Israelis don't belong in Palestine. ISRAELIS DONT BELONG IN PALESTINE.

Mosby

(16,247 posts)
13. there are no Israelis in Palestine
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 04:49 PM
Jul 2015

Because there is no country of Palestine. There is however, occupied/disputed territory that could possibly become Palestine if the Palestinians work out an agreement with the Israelis per international law (UNSCR 242 and 338).

The modern nation of Israel is part of the ancestral homeland of the Jews, they have been living continuously in Israel, Judea, Samaria and the Levant for more than three thousand years. The modern national movement called Zionism developed out of the Jewish concept of Aliyah, the first pre-Zionist Aliyah started in the 10th century.

Palestinians developed their own national movement about 100 years ago. Prior to that most Arabs living in the area of Israel, Judea and Samaria considered themselves Syrian and Egyptians.

When Israel declared independence they accepted large numbers of Muslim, Christian and Druze arabs as full citizens. I hope that th future state of Palestine will be pluralistic but I'm not holding my breath.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
16. You can
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 06:41 PM
Jul 2015

Believe whatever version of history you wish to believe. Israelis have coopted the term Semite. There have been Semites in that area for thousands of years including Palestinians. Talk realities or talk geopolitical mambo jumbo. Interpreti the Old Testament from the original Hebrew like my Dad did and you will realize that. Israelis were part of the mix, not all the mix.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
14. None of Israel in range of Gaza is disputed territory
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 05:33 PM
Jul 2015

it was Israel, is presently Israel and will remain Israel when a Palestinian state is established.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
20. So all of Israel is Palestine?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:30 PM
Jul 2015

At least you are more honest than most anti- Israel posters. They at least try to hide behind BDS.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
22. I am not anti Israel
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:28 AM
Jul 2015

because they don't deserve a homeland. They don't deserve it as the expense of another people who have just as much right to exist. They impoverish the Palestinians just like the US tries to do to its minorities, although we don't really have so much ethnic minorities but economic minorities. I see a correlation between the right wing rabble rousing religious nut cases over there just like the right wing rabble rousing religious nut cases over here. We seem to add a few more nut cases like the birthers, anti LGBT, R pres candidates and gun nuts.
But all the land over there are from the same bunch of people. It will be an argument of semantics but they are all Semitic in origin.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
24. It would only be the way to make it work.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 09:12 AM
Jul 2015

Israel is a theocracy at heart and would accept nothing less. It is the problem with letting religion be the governing body of a nation. That is obvious from the way many of the other countries in the Middle East are governed. I understand the concept of kingdoms of some sort of them, but then you have to be lucky to get beneficent.

timdog44

(1,388 posts)
26. No doubt.
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 09:23 AM
Jul 2015

That is OK.

One of the things that is going on in the U.S. is there are people,who would make it a theocracy and take away from the greatness of what has been created here. We have the freedom to practice as we please and not let that determine our laws. There are basic fundamental rights that are abridges by theocracies, and that is what I see wrong with them.

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
15. Exactly. Israel threw all cameras and journalist out of Gaza including Red Cross so their atrocities
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 06:24 PM
Jul 2015

could not be documented. Their war crimes far exceed the Palestinians and were vicious and cruel. Like shooting fish in a barrel they laughed. Just look at the death tolls, especially civilian. Israel refused to allow medical aid through. The only way to not know the brutality of their multiple war crimes is to not 'want' to know. Who will hold them accountable...and they know it.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
9. That was highlighted in the resolution
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:23 AM
Jul 2015

The US statement is just arguing that the violent attacks against Israel (though not even remotely as impactful in terms of damage) could have been included in the resolution in addition to the condemnation of Israel's actions.

 

Telcontar

(660 posts)
19. What fucking bullshit is that?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:59 PM
Jul 2015

There have to be equal numbers of dead? Let me educate you, war us about killing the other guy and not letting them kill your guys. So the Palestinians suck at war, that makes them morally right? Fuck that, maybe if they suck at war, they shouldn't start one.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
21. Good god, you must be dense. The Palestinians are not getting arms and gobs of money from the US
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 12:17 AM
Jul 2015

Our policies essentially support Israel's war against the Palestinians. Please stop while you can save your own dignity.

duhneece

(4,108 posts)
27. You would be right if all things were equal, like the US support
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 10:32 AM
Jul 2015

It is blaming the victims for being vulnerable...and much of their vulnerability is due to the US support of Israel.
Statesmen fight wars for the peace. Tyrants fight wars like Sherman's March...

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
28. Although most don't know, the US is umbilically tied to Israel because of the Bible...Old
Sun Jul 5, 2015, 05:03 PM
Jul 2015

and New Testament. It is folly to resist or even note and mention. It is in the cultural DNA like Christmas or Easter.

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