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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:42 PM Jul 2015

Plan to curtail public records laws sparks uproar in Wisconsin

Source: USA Today

APPLETON, Wis. — A vote by Wisconsin's budget committee to dismantle the state's open records laws has caused an uproar across the Badger State.

Under these measures, lawmakers would be able to draft bills in secret and hide their communications from the public. The changes would also apply to local government officials, including school board members.

No other state in the country would have similar statutes, according to the Legislative Reference Bureau, a nonpartisan agency that helps legislators draft laws.

The Joint Finance Committee passed it 12-4 on a party line vote. Republicans refused to say who initiated the measures and the reasoning for it.

Read more: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2015/07/03/uproar-proposal-curtail-public-records-laws-wisconsin/29674939/

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Plan to curtail public records laws sparks uproar in Wisconsin (Original Post) IDemo Jul 2015 OP
The reasoning is obvious... Archae Jul 2015 #1
When will Americans realize that the Republican Party has been infiltrated by fascists. olegramps Jul 2015 #21
And Walker's also running for president Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #23
Republicans refused to say who initiated the measures and the reasoning for it. Romeo.lima333 Jul 2015 #2
Of course they refused. blackspade Jul 2015 #3
When will Wisconsonite's uproars show some effect? elleng Jul 2015 #4
ALEC at work again. Same thing happening in IN. Myrina Jul 2015 #5
Bill Clinton said it best... Johnyawl Jul 2015 #6
WTF? Sounds like they want our legislatures to act like the TPP. jalan48 Jul 2015 #7
koch bros at work. mopinko Jul 2015 #8
Even the conservative McIver Institute oppose this. Archae Jul 2015 #9
FOIA is superseded by state law? Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #10
FOIA only applies to federal agencies n/t IDemo Jul 2015 #11
Thanks. Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #16
Again, People! Scalded Nun Jul 2015 #12
this is what happens when we have two parties open to corpo money, they just both roll right MisterP Jul 2015 #27
Did anyone here doubt that Snotty Wanker Thespian2 Jul 2015 #13
I'm sure that's what the founding fathers had in mind when WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2015 #14
"No other state in the country would have similar statutes" awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #15
1) How did the GOP gain control of both houses of the Wisconsin legislature? red dog 1 Jul 2015 #17
Wisconson, the Hunger Game party is about to rob you blind! OffWithTheirHeads Jul 2015 #18
WI Dems, Progressives, Liberals SoapBox Jul 2015 #19
100,000+ of us marching on Madison wasnt enough Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #28
The timing is perfect for those who want to protect Scott Walker's image davidpdx Jul 2015 #20
did someone spike the cheese up there? restorefreedom Jul 2015 #22
once one state has public records kept secret, we can assume all states will soon copy. Sunlei Jul 2015 #24
Duh, the reasoning is totally clear. lark Jul 2015 #25
are 'we the people' going to have to hire China to hack the records for us? Sunlei Jul 2015 #26
wow. corruption will reign Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #29
UPDATE - Scott Walker And Wisconsin GOP Retreat On Open Records Limits IDemo Jul 2015 #30
Trial balloon CANDO Jul 2015 #31
 

Romeo.lima333

(1,127 posts)
2. Republicans refused to say who initiated the measures and the reasoning for it.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 04:45 PM
Jul 2015

if the dems had done this to them

elleng

(130,865 posts)
4. When will Wisconsonite's uproars show some effect?
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jul 2015

Very troubling, what's happened there in 'recent' years

Johnyawl

(3,205 posts)
6. Bill Clinton said it best...
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:18 PM
Jul 2015

..."The core value of the Republican Party is that wealth and power belong in the hands of the few"

Just another step in concentrating power in the hands of the few.

jalan48

(13,859 posts)
7. WTF? Sounds like they want our legislatures to act like the TPP.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:20 PM
Jul 2015

Deliberations behind closed doors, the public just gets to see the result.

mopinko

(70,081 posts)
8. koch bros at work.
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:37 PM
Jul 2015

koch bros are heavily invested in wis w mining and timber.
they are corrupting government there from the bottom to the top.
hopefully someone will sue to stop this.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
12. Again, People!
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:54 PM
Jul 2015

This is what you get when you do not bother to vote!

This bullshit, the evil they are inflicting on SNAP recipients, and to top it off (although I am sure they are not finished), they are removing oversight laws.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
27. this is what happens when we have two parties open to corpo money, they just both roll right
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 01:16 PM
Jul 2015

(plus there's very few DUers who boycott elections and that's not what drives low turnout)

Thespian2

(2,741 posts)
13. Did anyone here doubt that Snotty Wanker
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 05:56 PM
Jul 2015

is a serious criminal who does the bidding of the Koch-sucker industries?

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
15. "No other state in the country would have similar statutes"
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 06:42 PM
Jul 2015

not for long- many will follow. Jeebus bless 'Murka

red dog 1

(27,792 posts)
17. 1) How did the GOP gain control of both houses of the Wisconsin legislature?
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 06:49 PM
Jul 2015

2) Why do Republicans hold all statewide offices in Wisconsin?

3) How did Scott Walker survive the recall election?


The answer to all three questions is very simple.

ELECTRONIC VOTING MACHINE FRAUD!

"Recall Election Fraud in Wisconsin? You Betcha!"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/125144291

"Meet Command Central, the People in Charge of Wisconsin Voting machines"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002773448

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
19. WI Dems, Progressives, Liberals
Fri Jul 3, 2015, 07:15 PM
Jul 2015

and Independants...

When exactly will you have enough of this shit?

The rest of America awaits your decision.

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
28. 100,000+ of us marching on Madison wasnt enough
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 01:24 PM
Jul 2015

to win the elections, but frankly, i'm surprised it's not enough to convince you that we're not all just going along to get along with the pukes.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
20. The timing is perfect for those who want to protect Scott Walker's image
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 09:53 AM
Jul 2015

Not that you can do much to protect someone who looks like their face got shit on.

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
22. did someone spike the cheese up there?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:34 AM
Jul 2015

what the hell??

seriously though this sounds bad. but it would never hold up to judicial scrutiny.

it is the last gasps of the oligarchy clinging to life.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
24. once one state has public records kept secret, we can assume all states will soon copy.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 11:58 AM
Jul 2015

Then the Federal gov can slip in the same bill rider, all records are secret.


Even the old days when the Bush gov made some people wait 6 years!! for a public record request will look better.

lark

(23,091 posts)
25. Duh, the reasoning is totally clear.
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 12:00 PM
Jul 2015

They want to be able to complete their treachery without watching eyes. What is not seen can easily hurt us quicker.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
26. are 'we the people' going to have to hire China to hack the records for us?
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 12:17 PM
Jul 2015

State and Federal officials are supposed to be working FOR US, the people.

IDemo

(16,926 posts)
30. UPDATE - Scott Walker And Wisconsin GOP Retreat On Open Records Limits
Sat Jul 4, 2015, 10:38 PM
Jul 2015

MADISON, Wis. (AP) — In a sudden reversal amid a stinging backlash, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and GOP legislative leaders said they agreed Saturday to completely remove a part of the proposed state budget that would severely roll back open records laws.

Walker announced the decision in a joint statement Saturday with Senate Majority Leader Scott Fitzgerald, Assembly Speaker Robin Vos, and the co-chairs of the joint budget committee. They said that they're committed to open and accountable government.

"After substantive discussion over the last day, we have agreed that the provisions relating to any changes in the state's open records law will be removed from the budget in its entirety," the statement said. "... The intended policy goal of these changes was to provide a reasonable solution to protect constituents' privacy and to encourage a deliberative process between elected officials and their staff in developing policy. It was never intended to inhibit transparent government in any way*."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/04/scott-walker-open-records-retreat_n_7727528.html

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