Trump: 'Infectious disease is pouring across the border'

[Cali_Democrat]

Source: The Hill

Donald Trump doubled down on his controversial comments about illegal immigration from Mexico on Monday, saying that "infectious disease is pouring across the border."

Trump issued a lengthy — nearly 900 word — statement invoking the death of a San Francisco woman shot and killed last week by a suspect who had previously been deported to Mexico five times.

"This is merely one of thousands of similar incidents throughout the United States," Trump said Monday. "In other words, the worst elements in Mexico are being pushed into the United States by the Mexican government."

The 2016 Republican presidential candidate said that Mexican drug cartels are using immigrants to smuggle heroin, cocaine and other illicit drugs into the United States.

"The Border Patrol knows this. Likewise, tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border," Trump continued.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/246982-trump-infectious-disease-is-pouring-across-the-border

[Botany]

1. World famous epidemiologist Dr. Donald Trump

" .... tremendous infectious disease is pouring across the border .... "

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

3. That's Dr. The Donald to you!

[Botany]

6. I read the article and Dr. Trump did not name any disease or microbe or infectious agent .....

.... sorry Dr. The Donald Trump.

I'm beginning to the think Donald has some kind of mental disorder because he is really
pissing all over himself almost daily.

My bet is he will be out of the race by Sept..

[underpants]

13. This was a talking point from 2 summers ago

Conservative figures such as Rush Limbaugh, Pat Robertson, and Allen West have been pushing the dubious link between undocumented children and EV-D68.

Rush Limbaugh. During his September 8 program, Limbaugh connected undocumented immigration to enterovirus. After noting the spread of the virus, Limbaugh said the "companion story is Obama will not tell anybody where all of the children that have crossed the border in the last four months have been relocated to ... Now, are the two stories related or are they not? Does this sweeping mysterious virus that's multiplying across the Midwest, does it have anything to do with that or not? We don't know. That's the answer. We just don't know. But some people think there may be some kind of a connection." Limbaugh's website -- which is screenshotted at the top of this post -- also drew a connection between the children and enterovirus.

Michael Savage. On his September 8 radio program, which was touted by WND, Savage said he's been "trying to warn America about the unscreened immigrants being brought in" and then blamed undocumented immigrants for purportedly spreading EV-D68. He added that the government is "encouraging it by not speaking out against bringing in infected children and putting them in our public schools."

Investor's Business Daily. The conservative financial newspaper published a September 26 editorial discussing enterovirus and claimed that "It's plain what's bringing up this great wave of diseases: immigration politics. President Obama is so obsessed with winning Latino votes for Democrats by neglecting border laws that he's unwittingly opened the U.S. up to a variety of third-world diseases."

Pat Robertson. As Right Wing Watch's Brian Tashman noted, on October 3, Pat Robertson discussed enterovirus and wondered if undocumented children carried "with them viruses that we were not familiar with in the United States and haven't built up immunity to?"

Jesse Lee Peterson. Peterson, host of The Jesse Lee Peterson Radio Show, claimed on October 4 that "all of these diseases that we're starting to hear about now, that the illegal aliens are bringing them in -- we had all these illegal children come in. Obama secretly implanted them, embedded them in communities around the country, no one knows where they are ... and now these strange and weird diseases are [starting to kill] folks."

Peterson's guest Los Angeles Times columnist Robin Abcarian pushed back on Peterson's claims, stating it's "not the fault" of undocumented children and that "when we were having the kids coming across from Central America a couple months ago when that was in the news, those kids were being vaccinated, they were being evaluated by doctors."

[Botany]

25. I remember in 2014 not only the right wing media but the MSM were pumping up the ...

.... ebola threat prior to the elections and they day after the election you never heard
word one about ebola again.

One right wing nut bag a block down the street from a house that I take care of
the landscape for had a "Stop Ebola, Secure the Borders," sign in his front yard.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

16. It's called Trumpitis. It's a bit like diarrhea, but from the mouth.

It's compounded exponentially by Trumpegoitis, and Trumpbraindeaditis.

[hopemountain]

28. thinking the same

for example, early stage alzheimers and dementia symptoms include irrational, hateful, and inappropriate actions/ statements that target a particular person, group of persons, or a thing, etc. it is very sad and can be scary for those close to the person. sincerely hope his family or loved ones are "paying attention" because safety of the person and others involved can be threatened and escalate rapidly.

[AverageGuy]

35. I bet he leads the Republican polls next time around

and Rmoney is their nominee at a deadlocked convention.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

2. He wants to lose even more business.

Derp!

[olegramps]

5. Well, he certainly is suffering for something. Hope it isn't infectious.

It could just be plain old senility.

[Warpy]

4. I love the way a NYC blowhard suddenly becomes an expert

on what's happening along the southern border.

I live in a border state and I've seen a lot of people twirling their index fingers next to their temples when he's on those ubiquitous TV screens.

[Plucketeer]

7. Trump is proof

we need to concentrate on developing a vaccine to prevent obscene stupidity.

[SpankMe]

8. Donald Trump IS an infections disease. n/t

[ToxMarz]

9. Which way are those diseases pouring?

Some California insurers sell health insurance policies that require members to go to Mexico for health care where costs are 40% lower. Some of Mexico's top-rate hospitals are internationally accredited. Residents of USA, particularly those living near the Mexican border, now routinely cross the border into Mexico for medical care.

[underpants]

11. I had heard of the huge numbers of retirees moving to Mexico

I think the Mexican government had to increase to unbelievably low premiums that immigrants there were paying.

[underpants]

10. This was a disproved talking point with the wave of immigrant children

He is blowing dog whistles into the fire to fan the flames.

[louis-t]

12. Yes, and they have calves the size of watermelons.....

Donald Trump is a tremendous, infectious disease.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

20. Cantaloupes, to be accurate.

[Ken Burch]

14. Er...which way?

[Brother Buzz]

15. Donald Trump is all up in his house with disease.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

18. If there's anyone who has my vote...

It's Lee Mercer, Jr.

He has over 200 tapes! I can't wait.

[mike dub]

17. No offense to Pennywise and Bozo

...but Trump is an utter Clown

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

19. I am beginning to think

Trump is a mole working for the DNC, considering how much damage he's doing to the GOPer "brand."

[hopemountain]

29. my neighbor said the same thing over the weekend

and, i thought the same, initially. but, he is too beligerant with his outbursts/defense.

[tomm2thumbs]

21. It takes one, to know one...

or was that too easy. <g>

[freshwest]

22. The comedic value of Trump is starting to wear thin. This could spark hate crimes. Like the bozos

with guns at the border and the ones who terrorized the kids in the buses on the way to being taken care of last year.

There are kids from Mexico, etc. that bring disease, but it's not something that can't be solved by a vigorous health care system in this country. Which the GOP fights tooth and nail to deny all of us. I wonder what the statistics on these diseases in red vs. blue states are?

Remember, the Europeans did bring some serious diseases to the New World. Epidemics that decimated the native population is explained in history books. There will more disease from global warming as populations merge.

This is just more war on the poor, particularly the 'brown' ones.
And his claim of rapists, etc?

Yes, logic dictates somefrom every nation and native born are rapists, drug dealers or whatever else he is talking about. But guess what?

The Obama administration has gone hard after immigrants who committed crimes. They won't be allowed to stay, but deported. To penalize hard working immigrants, is unproductive.

And most people have known for years that these are not just rogue interlopers coming here. They are actually offered jobs by Americans that go into the small towns in Mexico who sponsor their entry, legal or not. They are not strangers to us. They were invited. Democrats aren't doing this. It's conservative landowners and businesses that bring them want cheap labor.

Instead of demagoging the poor, the GOP could support comprehensive immigration reform with a path to becoming full citizens. Most are already paying taxes, in their rent and other things they purchase. If you keep people on the fringes of society through fear, they won't come for help. There 's some domestic abuse in immigrant communities because women can't go to the authorities without being at risk of deportation. Yet they work.

All this demonizaion does is give employers public support for keeping these folks on the edge of being deported. This is a business model. They don't even want native born to get to vote, and don't want responsible immigrants from south of the border or around the world.

No, they want people they can abuse with dangerous working conditions, unhealthy living situations and to get their work without paying them at all at times, robbing them of their wages. It's been documented.

That is who the GOP wants here and they penalize the native born who 'look illegal', those are and are not 'legal' but try to follow the law, their families and those who want to be more than guest workers, they want to be full Americans.

Look how many Mexicans were naturalized by GWB to get soldiers for the Iraq War. They have equity in this country, not just from that, but from hard work. This was all engineered to benefit the GOP.

If they don't like sick or some other kind of 'undesireables' here, stop importing them and keeping them outliers.

The GOP is on the wrong side of history. I want to see them get a major asswhupping for their crimes. May all the immigrants remember who believes they are equal human beings and who does not.

JMHO.

[hopemountain]

30. believe me, it is not the mexican kids bringing disease

i worked for dhs, region 1X, as an infectious disease investigator / health educator during outbreaks of communicable disease in the late 80's - 90's (when there were funds for such things) - the diseases we investigated and outreached for were tuberculosis, measles, and sexually transmitted diseases epidemics. these disease were NOT attributed solely to any age group, nationality, race, nor immigration status.

there is already plenty of stigma applied to immigrants whether legal or illegal. immigrants do not pick up these diseases because they are inferior in some way or because americans are superior to immigrants. no. immigrants become infected because medical care is not available to them where they originate from nor when they arrive here.

trump is scapegoatting the immigrant issue to his benefit. it is despicable.

[freshwest]

32. I'm not making the case, just disputing *their* argument. None of these diseases are based on

on any nationality or where people came from. Before any of these demagogues started on this line of propaganda I am trying to offer solutions to show they are even *more* wrong than they appear on the face of their argument.

I grew up in areas with many diseases from insect and animal vectors. And they were nothing new, they'd been here in the environment for centuries. But no one applied race or status to them, understand?

These diseases exist here and may - emphasize may - like the poor man with Ebola - be from immigrants. But that man came down with a disease that native born Americans in the same part of Africa came down with.

It had *nothing* to do with status, race, nationality, or in that case, poverty. It was not about carelessness or lack of hygiene or the other RW spew. It was a disease. They know no border, are not confined to any kind of person.

But there is a solution to ending fear and death from disease and the GOP is fighting it tooth and nail. They hate not only poor people, immigrants (after they have stolen their labor, that is) and natives with the same level of hatred. That is proven by their cutting funding and mocking all attempts to help.

I hope that makes my position clear to you. There is a solution, and it's more to do with help than pointing fingers. The GOP is doing the worst thing possible to deflect from their own crimes against humans.

[hopemountain]

33. yes, it does make your position clear

i read your initial post and looked for the quotations and i couldn't believe what i was reading was written by you or your personal opinion. i am very familiar with your posts. so, i posted my position to counter and to be clear. thank you for taking the time to respond. ~ hopemountain

[freshwest]

34. Probably should have said it was rebuttals/ real cause of disease spreading.

Thanks for taking the time to ask so I could clarify anyone that misunderstood. Maybe more pronouns would have helped.

I am working about 5 tabs on my browser, two documents, my computer is slowing down and so am I!

[Paulie]

23. We should seal the border right now

We need a 10 billion square miles of plastic sheeting and 4 times as much duct tape. We can do this all with immigrant labor. USA USA USA. Oh wait.

[progree]

24. Doubled down? Isn't this about the 4th "double down" making it a "sixteen down"?

2*2*2*2 = 2^4 = 16

[Iliyah]

26. Hey, a friend's co-workers agree with Trump

His poll numbers are going up, what a insane world.

[Gregorian]

27. What a great way to go out, for Jon Stewart.

I hope he keeps his Trump promise and not leave until it's over. But it's never over...

[davidpdx]

31. Why does anyone pay attention to what this guy says anymore?

He's a fucking lunatic. And his hairpiece looks like it came from the Dollar Store.

[Little Tich]

36. Trump may not be the worst GOP candidate, but I think he's the most embarrassing one. n/t