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TexasTowelie

(112,127 posts)
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:43 AM Aug 2015

Gohmert to announce resolution to stop Iran nuclear deal

Source: Longview News-Journal

LONGVIEW, TEXAS -- The U.S. congressman for Northeast Texas told a Longview audience Thursday that he plans to announce a resolution this weekend that could make it easier for Congress to stop the Obama administration's nuclear deal with Iran.

"Now that we've seen it, it's clearly a treaty," U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert said of the deal to slow Iran's march to nuclear weapons capability.

The Tyler Republican told a lunch audience of Longview Ambucs members the U.S. Constitution requires a high level of Senate support for treaties with other nations.

"It does not become effective unless two-thirds of the Senate approves it," he said. &quot President Barack Obama) doesn't get a vote — it's two-thirds of the Senate."

Read more: http://www.news-journal.com/news/2015/aug/27/gohmert-to-announce-resolution-to-stop-iran-nuclea/




Gratuitous photo of Gohmert to provide setup for jokes...
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Gohmert to announce resolution to stop Iran nuclear deal (Original Post) TexasTowelie Aug 2015 OP
I'd be worried if this was coming from someone a lot brighter than Gohmert. Renew Deal Aug 2015 #1
According to Wikipedia... starroute Aug 2015 #2
What About Your Asparagus Dipsh*t? Yallow Aug 2015 #3
He comes from East Texas, kentauros Aug 2015 #6
Damn. kentauros Aug 2015 #4
We can always hope. TexasTowelie Aug 2015 #5
Can we indict him on something? kentauros Aug 2015 #7
He's too stupid to be crooked. hobbit709 Aug 2015 #9
Gohmert Delusional bucolic_frolic Aug 2015 #8
Seven nations were involved in this agreement. bulloney Aug 2015 #10
Agree on everything, but you miswrote Kerry's title - Secretary, not ambassador karynnj Aug 2015 #14
" " " " n/t MBS Aug 2015 #15
Secretary of State. Member of the... YvonneCa Aug 2015 #17
Thanks bucolic_frolic Aug 2015 #18
That would be an amazing parallel karynnj Aug 2015 #19
Not an idle comparison bucolic_frolic Aug 2015 #20
that is a huge compliment for someone I think deserves it karynnj Aug 2015 #21
Gohmert is an idiot and does not know the law here Gothmog Aug 2015 #11
He is a elected representative ---try again, zippy.....it's an agreement----did you read it...? turbinetree Aug 2015 #12
Gohmert puts the PU in STPUID. nt valerief Aug 2015 #13
Gohmert! AlbertCat Aug 2015 #16

Renew Deal

(81,855 posts)
1. I'd be worried if this was coming from someone a lot brighter than Gohmert.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:48 AM
Aug 2015

What's the resolution? That we're going to call I a treaty because he says so? Good luck

starroute

(12,977 posts)
2. According to Wikipedia...
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:57 AM
Aug 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_Clause

Throughout U.S. history, the President has also made international "agreements" through congressional-executive agreements (CEAs) that are ratified with only a majority from both houses of Congress, or sole-executive agreements made by the President alone.[1] Though the Constitution does not expressly provide for any alternative to the Article II treaty procedure, Article I, Section 10 of the Constitution does distinguish between treaties (which states are forbidden to make) and agreements (which states may make with the consent of Congress).[3] The Supreme Court of the United States has considered congressional-executive and sole-executive agreements to be valid, and they have been common throughout American history. Thomas Jefferson explained that the Article II treaty procedure is not necessary when there is no long-term commitment:

"It is desirable, in many instances, to exchange mutual advantages by Legislative Acts rather than by treaty: because the former, though understood to be in consideration of each other, and therefore greatly respected, yet when they become too inconvenient, can be dropped at the will of either party: whereas stipulations by treaty are forever irrevocable but by joint consent." . . .

Between 1946 and 1999, the United States completed nearly 16,000 international agreements. Only 912 of those agreements were treaties, submitted to the Senate for approval as outlined in Article II of the United States Constitution. Since the Franklin Roosevelt presidency, only 6% of international accords have been completed as Article II treaties.


 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
3. What About Your Asparagus Dipsh*t?
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:36 AM
Aug 2015

And the saddest part is.....

Gohmert is probably the smartest rock in his district.

Where does he come from? IQ 55 Texas?

I vote Republican cuz I got my gunz and I shoot at stuff and drink
a 12 pack for fun. AnnI got to church an stuff.

So Louie, how old is the Earth? 6,000 years old, or 4 billion years old?

Don't wet your pants trying to answer that one.

kentauros

(29,414 posts)
6. He comes from East Texas,
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:22 AM
Aug 2015

And most of the rest of Texas doesn't think much of the general population of East Texas, Gohmert being a prime example of their denizens.

It's a beautiful part of the state. It's just too bad it's populated with people like Gohmert.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
8. Gohmert Delusional
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 06:29 AM
Aug 2015

Republicans are seeking the unilateral dissolution and disarmament of Iran
by treaty, and anything less will not satisfy them. What a fantasy.

Since treaties are binding until mutual dissolution, I don't see why they
would want a nuclear treaty with Iran. It would create tension over
terms and would have no incremental enforcement advantage over
Obama's current negotiated deal.

Seven major nations can't be wrong on this. It's a relaxation of tensions,
a chance to bring Iran into the 21st century peacefully, and if monitoring
fails they'll just have to do whatever must be done at that time.

There just is little if any downside to what Ambassador Kerry has negotiated here.
Can't be any worse off at any point, with potential huge upside. When Kissinger
went to China comes to mind.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
10. Seven nations were involved in this agreement.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 06:55 AM
Aug 2015

That's one point you never hear on the media. Instead of calling out clowns like Gohmert and point this fact out, they just let them attack this and anything else that comes out of the Obama Administration because it makes good entertainment, or they're too damned lazy to point that out.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
14. Agree on everything, but you miswrote Kerry's title - Secretary, not ambassador
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:35 AM
Aug 2015

This and other accomplishments make him one of the best Secretaries of State that the US has ever had.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
18. Thanks
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:20 PM
Aug 2015

It was EARLY for me, and when I think of Kerry I tend to
draw parallels with John Adams, once Ambassador to France.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
19. That would be an amazing parallel
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:42 PM
Aug 2015

I would assume that would be a parallel that a former MA Senator would see as an incredible compliment.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
20. Not an idle comparison
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:15 PM
Aug 2015

For those seeking an interesting angle:

David McCullough's book "John Adams" was a fantastic read

as was the HBO mini-series by the same name .... how DID they make
those crowd scenes in what looks like late-1700's New York City?

Computer graphics.

But Kerry, like Adams, has been concerned with the long term public good
of the American government. I'm not sure a majority of politicians in our
history factored in the 'long term' aspect. Many sought wealth, or only
thought about short term political or even partisan consequences.

Adams though was immersed in the viability of the new nation, but of course sought to stifle
opposition as President in the Alien and Sedition Acts. He led this
fantastically large life, and it is amazing how much of his correspondence
survives. Historians know a lot about him.

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
21. that is a huge compliment for someone I think deserves it
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:48 PM
Aug 2015

I remember in 2006, he did a series of speeches at Faneuil Hall on various issues that he wrote himself - which were incredible. Though we missed having him as President, he may well have been born to be Secretary of State at this moment. As someone about 6 years younger than he is, I think he is the best statesman that his generation has produced.


turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
12. He is a elected representative ---try again, zippy.....it's an agreement----did you read it...?
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 10:20 AM
Aug 2015

"Now that we've seen it, it's clearly a treaty," U.S. Rep. Louie Gohmert said of the deal to slow Iran's march to nuclear weapons capability.


And zippy, with nothing between the ears, do you have an "alternative plan" except to use the children of both countries as fodder for your grand biblical "revelations" and war.

Did someone on your lobbyist staff take out the crayons and draw in pictures for you to understand the big words so that you could see it.


I really have to ask what is your selective service number outcome------------because, I don't think they have one for stupid (1Stupid)

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