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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:29 PM Aug 2015

Ex-Wife Says Donald Trump Kept Book of Hitler's Speeches By His Bed

Source: Business Insider- four hours ago

According to a 1990 Vanity Fair interview, Ivana Trump once told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that her husband, real-estate mogul Donald Trump, now a leading Republican presidential candidate, kept a book of Hitler's speeches near his bed. "Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed ... Hitler's speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist," Marie Brenner wrote.

Hitler was one of history's most prolific orators, building a genocidal Nazi regime with speeches that bewitched audiences. "He learned how to become a charismatic speaker, and people, for whatever reason, became enamored with him," Professor Bruce Loebs, who has taught a class called the Rhetoric of Hitler and Churchill for the past 46 years at Idaho State University, told Business Insider earlier this year.

"People were most willing to follow him, because he seemed to have the right answers in a time of enormous economic upheaval." When Brenner asked Trump about how he came to possess Hitler's speeches, "Trump hesitated" and then said, "Who told you that?" In the Vanity Fair article, Ivana Trump told a friend that her husband's cousin, John Walter "clicks his heels and says, 'Heil Hitler," when visiting Trump's office.

"I don't remember," Brenner reportedly replied. Trump then recalled, "Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of 'Mein Kampf,' and he's a Jew." Brenner added that Davis did acknowledge that he gave Trump a book about Hitler.
"But it was 'My New Order,' Hitler's speeches, not 'Mein Kampf,'" Davis reportedly said. "I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I'm not Jewish." After Trump and Brenner changed topics, Trump returned to the subject and reportedly said, "If, I had these speeches, and I am not saying that I do, I would never read them."







Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trumps-ex-wife-once-said-he-kept-a-book-of-hitlers-speeches-by-his-bed-2015-8

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Ex-Wife Says Donald Trump Kept Book of Hitler's Speeches By His Bed (Original Post) big_dog Aug 2015 OP
When you listen to him talk, like yesterday about the bible, you know he doesnt believe randys1 Aug 2015 #1
it was past time for Rove/James Baker III/Cheney to torch the GOP Trumpenstein monster! big_dog Aug 2015 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #30
When the Republicans hear this he will be even more popular. jalan48 Aug 2015 #2
That was my first thought as well. Lorien Aug 2015 #6
No doubt! n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2015 #37
This will be explained in some way JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #3
more money for Ivanka! get ready for a big swiss bank transaction big_dog Aug 2015 #7
You said it - not me! JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #14
Trump confirmed it (in a mangled anti-semitic way) GreatGazoo Aug 2015 #12
Ewww JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #15
Probably wanted trump to realize just how much like hitler he is. jwirr Aug 2015 #17
Alarming? yes. Surprising? no. -nt- 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #4
Ja!! Genau!! KansDem Aug 2015 #8
this aint Baker III first rodeo, my suspicion is that Ol Poppy Bush just called the dogs on Trump big_dog Aug 2015 #9
Poppy's pappy has similar issues. gordianot Aug 2015 #18
ambassador Poppy right? big_dog Aug 2015 #27
Prescott got assets frozen WWII supported Hitler and entangled with Japan. gordianot Aug 2015 #36
They do look alike, except Hitler had better hair. red dog 1 Aug 2015 #25
Ivana will say anything. nt Tom28 Aug 2015 #10
and then take it back 5 secs later when Donald writes a check Adenoid_Hynkel Aug 2015 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #45
go, Ivana! maybe you just saved US from your dangerous ex-hub wordpix Aug 2015 #11
How come that is not surprising? Dont call me Shirley Aug 2015 #13
Try reading Mein Kampf sometime a complete waste of time and total drivel. gordianot Aug 2015 #16
Mein Trumpf C Moon Aug 2015 #19
DUZY. Very good. kairos12 Aug 2015 #21
Good one. roamer65 Aug 2015 #23
K & R. Was haben sie gesaght! appalachiablue Aug 2015 #41
Danke! C Moon Aug 2015 #42
Ausgeseichnet! 3catwoman3 Aug 2015 #43
Murica, murica, uber... 47of74 Aug 2015 #20
Anyone who is interested in power, or wants to be educated, studies many leaders. jtuck004 Aug 2015 #22
That makes more sense Turbineguy Aug 2015 #24
Things like this Senator Tankerbell Aug 2015 #26
The demagogues of the present certainly admire the demagogues of the past YoungDemCA Aug 2015 #28
Hello folks Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2015 #29
"the next thing you know, they will be calling me satin"? red dog 1 Aug 2015 #32
Yes I saw that Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2015 #33
K&R...Thanks for posting, big_dog red dog 1 Aug 2015 #31
LOL ananda Aug 2015 #34
When it comes to being a Great Orator there a few who have a resume like Hitler One_Life_To_Give Aug 2015 #35
Mein tRumpf sounds better than Mein New Orderer. mahina Aug 2015 #38
priceless image: other things also on tRumpf's bedside table: mahina Aug 2015 #39
Wonder how many points he'll go up after that revelation. Vinca Aug 2015 #40

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. When you listen to him talk, like yesterday about the bible, you know he doesnt believe
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:32 PM
Aug 2015

a single word he is saying, and it is so obvious to someone with a brain, i.e. liberal, but he is ready made for the right.

They are unintelligent, childish in the way they respond to pressure and societal problems, and he speaks to them the same way Hitler did to scared and economically bankrupted Germans.

The part of all this that I just love, however, is that there are ALLEGED democrats, some right here at DU, who believe it is either their candidate or fuck it, let the cons have it.

THAT is what amazes me.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
5. it was past time for Rove/James Baker III/Cheney to torch the GOP Trumpenstein monster!
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:34 PM
Aug 2015

now in desperation mode to save the wingnut GOP, i'm kinda surprised to took this long

Response to big_dog (Reply #5)

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
7. more money for Ivanka! get ready for a big swiss bank transaction
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:38 PM
Aug 2015

followed by a complete retraction

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
12. Trump confirmed it (in a mangled anti-semitic way)
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:03 PM
Aug 2015
Trump: “Actually, it was my friend Marty Davis from Paramount who gave me a copy of Mein Kampf, and he’s a Jew.”

Davis clarified that he is not Jewish, and that the book was indeed My New Order. “I did give him a book about Hitler,” he said. “But it was My New Order, Hitler’s speeches, not Mein Kampf. I thought he would find it interesting. I am his friend, but I’m not Jewish.”

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027114643

JustAnotherGen

(31,818 posts)
15. Ewww
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:13 PM
Aug 2015

That was kind yucky wasn't it?

He's just messy all the way around. He's like the Ben Affleck / Jennifer Garner divorce of Politics.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
9. this aint Baker III first rodeo, my suspicion is that Ol Poppy Bush just called the dogs on Trump
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 12:43 PM
Aug 2015

mama's boy Jebbie aint going down with a fight even at 7% in the polls and 100 million in the bank, he is no Rick Perry

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
36. Prescott got assets frozen WWII supported Hitler and entangled with Japan.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 04:12 PM
Aug 2015

My Grandfather was a distant cousin and met Prescott as a boy. In later life he had a couple well known Democratic friends who used to tease him about that. When George became head of the CIA Grandfather identified HW as "Prescott's boy" and actually called a relative to make sure he was the one. By the time HW went on to bigger things my Grandfather was long gone. The way he left it they, Bush's, were all crooks, beyond reading well known Bush family history I never researched how I am related. That whole family is spooky.

red dog 1

(27,797 posts)
25. They do look alike, except Hitler had better hair.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:34 PM
Aug 2015

Trump could be the reincarnation of Hitler...(He was born in 1946).

"Have Plans Tonight? Cancel Them. Sarah Palin Is Interviewing Donald trump"
http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2015/08/sarah-palin-interview-donald-trump

Response to Adenoid_Hynkel (Reply #44)

gordianot

(15,237 posts)
16. Try reading Mein Kampf sometime a complete waste of time and total drivel.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:20 PM
Aug 2015

When I took a class on World War II years ago Mein Kampf and Hitlers speeches were required reading. I cannot imagine anyone actually reading this for enjoyment or inspiration. Even American Neo Nazi's at the time of the class based on historical analysis were unaware and apparently beyond basic slogans, what Hitler promoted. Setting aside Goodwins law based on someone who might seek this out for content the possibility does exist that rhetorical technique is being studied. One possibility explored in the class Hitler does not translate well into English which is why it does not resonate when you attempt to read Hitler. The main value in such an exercise is to discredit Holocaust deniers, Hitler did based on real evidence what he said he was going to do in writings and speeches. If Trump actually does read such drivel voluntarily draw your own conclusions. Expect scapegoats an old Trump tactic.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
43. Ausgeseichnet!
Sat Aug 29, 2015, 06:12 AM
Aug 2015

(If I am remembering my long-ago high school German, this means excellent or superb - we're talking 1968-69 here, so I could be wrong.)

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
22. Anyone who is interested in power, or wants to be educated, studies many leaders.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 01:52 PM
Aug 2015

It was when he started running around singing "Springtime, for Donald, and history..." while goosestepping around the casino that we realized he had taken it to heart.




Let me suggest, dear reader, that if you need a break from the gasbag, picture Evilhair dancing across the stage at the debate, to these tunes. Or hiding in a bunker. Your choice.

It makes the fact that he could win a lot less scary. Because most of us know how it worked out for ol' Adolph.

Senator Tankerbell

(316 posts)
26. Things like this
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:40 PM
Aug 2015

are why I have ZERO concern about Trump and am hoping he will win the GOP nomination. He has no chance in a general election. We could nominate Lincoln Chafee and win in a landslide.

Wash. state Desk Jet

(3,426 posts)
29. Hello folks
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 02:54 PM
Aug 2015

It is none other than I,
The Donald:

https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/ntkthpv54c3RweyWfsSDwg--/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NTMxO3E9OTU7dz04MDA-/

There is a problem , it seems I've been outed by an x. This is not good, there is much under talk and innuendo whispers about
my method of studying oratory. The Jersey journalists are on to Christie's ways of mesmerizing the audience in those little town hall meets that jerk is capitalizing by. Some of those people were interviewed outside the town hall meetings after the event and those people were summed up as being in a trance like state ,rather stupefied . And to top it all off Christie talked about a 13 year friendship between he and I ,and those free dinners I provided for that dork.

This is not good, the next thing you know, they will be calling me satan. And Christie my right hand man.
That is not my idea of great entertainment.
There is a problem. Make matters worse that nit brain Dubu made mention of a nazi style campaign publicly, he was referring to the Obama campaign as he was soon to be on his way out. And Nixon said "even if you did it or are doing it you blame it on the democrats -you accuse them of being exactly what you yourself are or are doing." If all this gains any traction there will be hell to pay ,that's what I say.

But soon my jet action rocket powered golf cart will be ready for show and as the saying goes the show must go on !

I've been hexed by an x folks !

red dog 1

(27,797 posts)
31. K&R...Thanks for posting, big_dog
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:10 PM
Aug 2015

I love this quote from the OP article:
TRUMP: "If I had these speeches, and I'm not saying that I do, I would never read them."

What an asshole!



"Have Plans For Tonight? Cancel Them. Sarah Palin Is Interviewing Donald Trump"
http://www.motherjones.com/mixed-media/2015/08/sarah-palin-interview-donald-trimp




ananda

(28,858 posts)
34. LOL
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:28 PM
Aug 2015

Sorry but... that is just laugh out loud funny.

He doesn't really need a book of speeches because
he is speaking off the cuff to the subtrog whities
who wouldn't know a mein from a kampf.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
35. When it comes to being a Great Orator there a few who have a resume like Hitler
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 03:40 PM
Aug 2015

Hardly surprising that some people would want to learn how to emulate his Oratory Prowess. Would think most any World Leader would be interested in learning that skill. Obviously while leaving all of his other shit to wither in the grave.

mahina

(17,651 posts)
39. priceless image: other things also on tRumpf's bedside table:
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 05:00 PM
Aug 2015

Elections and How To Steal Them by W.

War and Profit by D. Cheney

...
I can think of about a dozen books on public communications that I'd look to before reading Hitler.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
40. Wonder how many points he'll go up after that revelation.
Fri Aug 28, 2015, 05:34 PM
Aug 2015

Maybe he'll get all of Huckabee's "ovens" supporters.

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