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KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:17 AM Nov 2015

Texas county: Sandra Bland wouldn’t have killed herself if her family had paid her bail

Source: Raw Story and Houston Chronicle

Officials in Waller County, Texas argued on Wednesday that Sandra Bland’s family contributed to her death by failing to post bail for her before she died in a local jail cell, the Houston Chronicle reported.

The allegation was made in a motion from the county asking a federal judge to dismiss a wrongful death suit filed by Bland’s mother, Geneva Reed-Veal, against the county, the state Department of Public Safety and officers Elsa Magnus and Oscar Prudente. The suit contends that Magnus and Prudente, who processed Bland during her incarceration, showed “deliberate indifference” to the risk of her killing herself.

But attorneys for the county said that not only did Magnus and Prudenty follow proper procedure while Brand was in custody, but Brand’s family was in the wrong for not paying the $515 necessary to release her. Brand was originally held on $5,000 bail.

“It is apparent now that Bland’s inability to secure her release from jail — and her family and friends’ refusal to bail her out of jail — led her to commit suicide,” the motion stated.

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/texas-cops-sandra-bland-wouldnt-have-killed-herself-if-her-family-had-paid-her-bail



These bastards are literally BLAMING HER FAMILY that live in another state for her death!



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Texas county: Sandra Bland wouldn’t have killed herself if her family had paid her bail (Original Post) KeepItReal Nov 2015 OP
Lower than any normal human would dream of going. Incredibly vicious, not to mention stupid. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2015 #1
They withheld needed prescription meds, without which she had a heightened risk of suicide. pnwmom Nov 2015 #2
These people have to be SHITTING us. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #3
BS, if they had done their jobs and had her on suicide watch she literally could not have cstanleytech Nov 2015 #4
And if they hadn't made that bullshit arrest Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #5
Unless it is part of the lawsuit the arrest is not relevant to the negligence of the jail. cstanleytech Nov 2015 #6
If they hadn't arrested her for a bullshit reason Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #7
Ya and they would probably say that if she had obeyed the officer and not cstanleytech Nov 2015 #9
I am not convinced it was a suicide. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #8
What? Has the autopsy by the investigator the family hired revealed something new? cstanleytech Nov 2015 #10
I haven't kept up with that. Kalidurga Nov 2015 #11
I would also add in any case since long before lovemydog Nov 2015 #12
Yes of course Kalidurga Nov 2015 #15
What? You think the ME the family hired would lie as well? cstanleytech Nov 2015 #18
If blamed for the nature of that argument Turbineguy Nov 2015 #13
Isn't that the dog pound's policy too? Pay up or we kill her? Can't even believe that is the... marble falls Nov 2015 #14
Oh, that's classy! Nitram Nov 2015 #16
I found it sad for her, the autopsy report- she had a 'leaf' embedded in a cut on her back. Sunlei Nov 2015 #17

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
2. They withheld needed prescription meds, without which she had a heightened risk of suicide.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:21 AM
Nov 2015

I hope the Sheriff's office has to pay for this.

PatrickforO

(14,576 posts)
3. These people have to be SHITTING us.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:49 AM
Nov 2015

There's no words that can do justice to the GROSS injustice. I hope this county and these cops have to pay and pay and pay and pay for the rest of their lives for doing this shitty thing to this young woman.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
4. BS, if they had done their jobs and had her on suicide watch she literally could not have
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:52 AM
Nov 2015

killed herself and they are the ones who were negligent here not her family.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
9. Ya and they would probably say that if she had obeyed the officer and not
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:45 AM
Nov 2015

given him any attitude that she probably would not have been arrested but just like her family not bailing her out right away this is not relevant to the negligence the jail is guilty of.
If the family does want sue the officer who arrested for false arrest or abuse then they should file a separate suit because if they mix the two it could jeopardize the negligence suit which is pretty much a slam dunk imo.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
10. What? Has the autopsy by the investigator the family hired revealed something new?
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:52 AM
Nov 2015

If not then I would be interested in hearing why you are not convinced that it was not suicide.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
11. I haven't kept up with that.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 05:13 AM
Nov 2015

In any case since the Michael Brown case I am not entirely convinced that even MEs will tell the absolute truth. Unfortunately that is all we have to go on.

Turbineguy

(37,342 posts)
13. If blamed for the nature of that argument
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 07:16 AM
Nov 2015

they can always say they made it to show they have a sense of humor!

marble falls

(57,102 posts)
14. Isn't that the dog pound's policy too? Pay up or we kill her? Can't even believe that is the...
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 08:59 AM
Nov 2015

response Waller County crafted. But then I have to drive through Waller and Hempstead every time I drive to Houston and it seems an inbred kind of place to me.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
17. I found it sad for her, the autopsy report- she had a 'leaf' embedded in a cut on her back.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 12:51 PM
Nov 2015

no one 'helped' her at all, not even to clean her wounds from the first policemans, I'LL LIGHT YOU UP!!

GET OUT OF THE CAR! slam to the leafy ground.

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