Ex-CIA director: White House ignored months of warnings about 9/11 to avoid leaving ‘paper trail’ of
Source: Raw Story
In an explosive revelation during an interview with Politico, the former CIA director during President George W. Bushs administration claims his department informed White house officials over impending Al Qaeda attacks months before the president received the infamous Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S. presidential briefing.
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Beginning in May of 2001, Tenet and Black launched an initiative called the Blue Sky paper and pitched it to Bushs national security team. The CIA called for a joint CIA and military campaign to end the Al Qaeda threat by getting into the Afghan sanctuary, launching a paramilitary operation, creating a bridge with Uzbekistan.
According to Tenet, the Bush administration said they wanted to back-burner the plan.
And the word back, claims Tenet, was were not quite ready to consider this. We dont want the clock to start ticking, meaning they didnt want a paper trail.
Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/ex-cia-director-bush-ignored-months-of-warnings-about-911-to-avoid-leaving-paper-trail-of-culpability/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=rawstory
Why do Democrats leave it to Donald Trump to bring this stuff into the political debate?
Republicans will get away with calling Democrats wimps, and the only response will be the Hillary variety of "I like to kill people too!" instead of calling bullshit on Republicans as incompetent or worse.
villager
(26,001 posts)...about what was obviously going on.
But our "leaders" were shock n' awed along with everybody else.
Which may have been one intention of ignoring the warnings.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)They play for keeps.
villager
(26,001 posts)n/t
patsimp
(915 posts)politically incorrect terms.
we are wimps.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)Sometimes I think that many of our Democratic leaders are incapable of reaching agreement on anything until they reach across the aisle.
Obama had the right idea in his last two years of his presidency. Just bucket. Do it because it's the right thing to do.
Elmer S. E. Dump
(5,751 posts)That's Bernie all the way!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)time, energy, and voter capital taken away from things we want to accomplish.
That's not the only reason, but it's a huge one. It is a basic difference between those who believe in using government as a tool to create progress and those who see government as a threat to individual (usually business) freedom.
That's why today's GOP is constantly attacking -- to fill up legislature time and satisfy conservative demand for "action"; they want to accomplish very little beyond the dismantling all social programs and the tweaking of laws to benefit business.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)So even when Dems have a majority in either or both chambers of Congress, corporations have a de facto majority, seemingly filibuster proof too.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)captainarizona
(363 posts)Democrats in congress are WIMPS! Birnie sanders could demand an investigation and when republicans refuse democrats could call them unpatriotic and traitors. Will they ? Don't hold your breath.
global1
(25,253 posts)Didn't want a paper trail - my ass. The neocons wanted some sort of calamity like a 911 because they they could put into operation their PNAC plan. LIHOP!!!!! No wonder that the Patriot Act was written and ready to go. No wonder that the ME is in complete shambles because of them.
I have a question - why is Tenet talking like this now? What motivated him to say this and why now? Is there anything brewing in the background that is causing him to put out an excuse for himself?
asjr
(10,479 posts)he had spoken of it before we invaded Iraq. Too many people, I am afraid, knew of this before the invasion. Colin Powell is another one that knew and kept his mouth shut.
wiggs
(7,814 posts)admit to anything at all it's because the misdeeds are actually much deeper and worse than they say.
Demeter
(85,373 posts)ethics just doesn't enter into it, and never did.
homegirl
(1,429 posts)The biggest mistake of the Obama administration was not investigating, trying and convicting these murdering criminals, starting with George W., Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice and the rest of the war profiteers !
Raster
(20,998 posts)I would NOT be surprised if there are even more shoes about to drop, so to speak. 9/11 was LIHOP and all the cheney*/bush* shitheads are war criminals.
villager
(26,001 posts)..finally shambles its way after these zombies. We can only hope.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...that would substantiate LIHOP, at the very least. I do believe I am correct. We saw Daddy Bush* fire the first salvo.
global1
(25,253 posts)Is he trying to get the blame pointed away from his son or is something else going on? I'm kinda thinking by jumping on Cheney and Rumsfeld - he's actually implicating Dubya along with them. After all Dubya was the pResident and the buck stops there.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Poppy never believed his n'er-do-well first born had the stones for greatness. JEB* was Poppy's choice for POTUS, NOT W*.
I think that Poppy believes that there is more to be revealed, more damaging information that will even further implicate W* and his merry band of New Centurions. W* was NEVER in charge, he was managed, on personal side by his harem: Laura, Condi and Karen. He was managed on the military side by cheney*, powell* and rumsferatu*.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)to come off something.
global1
(25,253 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)Stuart G
(38,436 posts)"That morning of July 10, the head of the agencys Al Qaeda unit, Richard Blee, burst into Blacks office. And he says, Chief, this is it. Roof's fallen in, recounts Black. The information that we had compiled was absolutely compelling. It was multiple-sourced. And it was sort of the last straw. Black and his deputy rushed to the directors office to brief Tenet. All agreed an urgent meeting at the White House was needed. Tenet picked up the white phone to Bushs National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice. I said, Condi, I have to come see you, Tenet remembers. It was one of the rare times in my seven years as director where I said, I have to come see you. We're comin' right now. We have to get there.
Tenet vividly recalls the White House meeting with Rice and her team. (George W. Bush was on a trip to Boston.) Rich [Blee] started by saying, There will be significant terrorist attacks against the United States in the coming weeks or months. The attacks will be spectacular. They may be multiple. Al Qaeda's intention is the destruction of the United States." [Condi said:] What do you think we need to do? Black responded by slamming his fist on the table, and saying, We need to go on a wartime footing now!"
Read more: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/11/cia-directors-documentary-911-bush-213353#ixzz3rP0DHqRM
louis-t
(23,295 posts)"Hair on fire".
UpInArms
(51,284 posts)In response to inquiries from CBS News over why Ashcroft was traveling exclusively by leased jet aircraft instead of commercial airlines, the Justice Department cited what it called a "threat assessment" by the FBI, and said Ashcroft has been advised to travel only by private jet for the remainder of his term.
"There was a threat assessment and there are guidelines. He is acting under the guidelines," an FBI spokesman said. Neither the FBI nor the Justice Department, however, would identify what the threat was, when it was detected or who made it.
YOHABLO
(7,358 posts)GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)was that it couldn't have happened without help, as in an 'inside job", which I never told anyone since it would be ridiculed. Now I know my hunch was true in a sense - it wasn't a typical "inside job" but it was in that THEY KNEW IT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN AND DID NOTHING TO STOP IT.
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)no moral difference between letting it happen and making it happen. Anyone who would conspire to let innocent people die for political gain could just as easily help the process along to maximize the result.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)It was wrong when the admins of this site origianally did this, and it's still wrong, as evidenced by the news that keeps coming out.
Ezlivin
(8,153 posts)There is an official story and it is not to be veered from.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Google page rank would suffer from 911 talk.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Sure, there are some whacked-out conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11, but there are also conspiracy theories surrounding the moon landing, and we can still talk about that here. Anyway, you bring up a good point about page rankings. That really is cynical, and it rings true to my ear.
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)hijackers is the most disturbing dog that didn't bark.
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)raindaddy
(1,370 posts)EndElectoral
(4,213 posts)at the very least.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Truth will out.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)It will clear up a lot of misconceptions about what happened.
Just f*cking do it already!!!
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)hibbing
(10,098 posts)The senior Bush book, now thread after thread about the Iraq war, just who does the establishment want to get the nomination, because all this certainly can't be good for !, who I still think somehow will rise from the ashes to win the nomination.
Peace
Justice
(7,188 posts)Interviews with all living CIA directors.
hibbing
(10,098 posts)I thought it was for political reasons, not commercial, although those are always intertwined. I have Showtime, I'll have to look for that. Thanks for the heads up on it.
Peace
reddread
(6,896 posts)duh.
does anyone think Poppy will blow the lid off 9-11-01?
right after he clears up that Bay of Pigs thing, I spose?
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)around lately.
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)After 911, I don't think anyone in government had the guts to blame them, particularly after they intentionally started in the next day
with that wave the flag, war on terror shit. The plan was to make it unpatriotic to do so.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)ChisolmTrailDem
(9,463 posts)...by ineptness.
apnu
(8,758 posts)... because Democrats were bullied and became cowards back then, and they still are as an opposition party from that time.
They are cowards today because they don't want to have to answer questions like: "why did you roll over for a ginned up war of convenience?" Dems today want to look and sound tough and gung-ho about military deployment and bringing up 9/11 and what we did and how we did it is too uncomfortable for everybody in government to talk about.
Also, these questions lead, inevitably to, who's responsible and who gets the blame today for that cockup. We all know politicians, nearly universally, avoid responsibility and blame at all costs.
It pisses me off, honestly.
You're right. The GOP gets away being blustery bullies and the Dems just roll over and say "aw shucks, that's us"
They don't stand up for what they believe in. They don't take pride in liberal principles. They should, but they're too afraid of Republican Attack Poodles saying mean things about them.
The Democrats biggest problem has been showing backbone. And when someone does, Dr. Dean for example, they get drummed out of the party.
Pathetic.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)If the real facts were known the wars we are still fighting and the reasons we are fighting then would be questioned.
Saudi Arabia and Pakistan and other allies would be smoking craters.
chapdrum
(930 posts)This is very old news, and so interesting that it re-emerges every few years.
Response of the MSM (and the average American):
Gregorian
(23,867 posts)From 2012.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/09/11/opinion/the-bush-white-house-was-deaf-to-9-11-warnings.html?_r=0
From that article "In other words, the Aug. 6 document, for all of the controversy it provoked, is not nearly as shocking as the briefs that came before it."
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)The Republicans really believed Clinton was exaggerating the threat of Middle Eastern terrorism to distract the country from Monica, Monica, Monica. The movie "Wag The Dog" was taken as factual.
They thought everyone issuing warnings was nothing more than crap from former Clinton loyalists trying to make their old boss look good. This is also why there was the famous quote, "Okay, you've covered your ass."
These bastards don't take ANYTHING seriously.
billhicks76
(5,082 posts)IHateTheGOP
(1,059 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Because the Democratic Party Elite answer to the same billionaires as did George Bush.
ladjf
(17,320 posts)yardwork
(61,650 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)This actually is the biggest news of the day.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)SoLeftIAmRight
(4,883 posts)old news - glad it is getting a new look
Kingofalldems
(38,458 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)burrowowl
(17,641 posts)Octafish
(55,745 posts)By Christopher Simpson
Covert Action Quarterly 58
A paper trail of declassified documents from the Reagan‑Bush era yields valuable information on how counter‑terrorism provided a powerful mechanism for solidifying Bush's power base and launching a broad range of national security initiatives.
During the Reagan years, George Bush used "crisis management" and "counter‑terrorism" as vehicles for running key parts of the clandestine side of the US government.
Bush proved especially adept at plausible denial. Some measure of his skill in avoiding responsibility can be taken from the fact that even after the Iran‑Contra affair blew the Reagan administration apart, Bush went on to become the "foreign policy president," while CIA Director William Casey, by then conveniently dead, took most of the blame for a number of covert foreign policy debacles that Bush had set in motion.
The trail of National Security Decision Directives (NSDDS) left by the Reagan administration begins to tell the story. True, much remains classified, and still more was never committed to paper in the first place. Even so, the main picture is clear: As vice president, George Bush was at the center of secret wars, political murders, and America's convoluted oil politics in the Middle East.
SNIP...
Reagan and the NSC also used NSDDs to settle conflicts among security agencies over bureaucratic turf and lines of command. It is through that prism that we see the first glimmers of Vice President Bush's role in clandestine operations during the 1980s.
SNIP...
NSDD 159. MANAGEMENT OF U.S. COVERT OPERATIONS, (TOP SECRET/VEIL‑SENSITIVE), JAN. 18,1985
The Reagan administration's commitment to significantly expand covert operations had been clear since before the 1980 election. How such operations were actually to be managed from day to day, however, was considerably less certain. The management problem became particularly knotty owing to legal requirements to notify congressional intelligence oversight committees of covert operations, on the one hand, and the tacitly accepted presidential mandate to deceive those same committees concerning sensitive operations such as the Contra war in Nicaragua, on the other.
[font color="green"]The solution attempted in NSDD 159 was to establish a small coordinating committee headed by Vice President George Bush through which all information concerning US covert operations was to be funneled. The order also established a category of top secret information known as Veil, to be used exclusively for managing records pertaining to covert operations.
The system was designed to keep circulation of written records to an absolute minimum while at the same time ensuring that the vice president retained the ability to coordinate US covert operations with the administration's overt diplomacy and propaganda.
Only eight copies of NSDD 159 were created. The existence of the vice president's committee was itself highly classified.[/font color] The directive became public as a result of the criminal prosecutions of Oliver North, John Poindexter, and others involved in the Iran‑Contra affair, hence the designation "Exhibit A" running up the left side of the document.
CONTINUED...
CovertAction Quarterly no 58 Fall 1996 pp31-40.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)And they want to distance themselves
bobthedrummer
(26,083 posts)(leveymg 8-21-09 DU thread)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x265254
LIHOP at least.