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brooklynite

(94,520 posts)
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 07:53 PM Nov 2015

Carson Backs Off Comments About US Muslims Cheering on 9/11

Source: ABC News

Hours after telling reporters that he saw a video of American Muslims in New Jersey cheering on Sept. 11, 2001, when the World Trade Center's twin towers fell, Ben Carson's campaign apologized for the remarks, saying he "doesn't stand behind" them and that they were "a mistake."

When asked by ABC News if American Muslims were cheering on 9/11 -- as has been suggested by Donald Trump -- Carson said “Yes.”

However, Carson made a 180 a short time later.

"He doesn't stand behind his comments to New Jersey and American Muslims," said campaign spokesman Doug Watts said. "He was rather thinking of the protests going on in the Middle East and some of the demonstrations that we're going on in celebration of the towers going down.



Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/ben-carson-newsreels-american-muslims-cheering-911/story?id=35376256



I think he's going down for the last time.
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Carson Backs Off Comments About US Muslims Cheering on 9/11 (Original Post) brooklynite Nov 2015 OP
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #1
Conspiracy bullshit from leftynyc Nov 2015 #21
Take your Jew-baiting bullshit elsewhere. Codeine Nov 2015 #25
well, Iran was holding a candlelight vigil for the victims. nt grasswire Nov 2015 #2
Yes, and Yasir Arafat donated blood, and sympathy was universal in every country. PSPS Nov 2015 #8
He "doesn't stand behind" those comments? That's what you say when some intemperate tblue37 Nov 2015 #9
huh? PSPS Nov 2015 #14
It is ridiculous for Carson or his campaign to say he "doesn't stand behind" tblue37 Nov 2015 #16
I see. You were replying to the wrong post. PSPS Nov 2015 #17
he is unable to say, "I WAS WRONG." Skittles Nov 2015 #18
But exactly what the teabaggers want leftynyc Nov 2015 #22
Carson is very Reaganesque... catnhatnh Nov 2015 #3
republicans will continue to play Carson for many more months. Sunlei Nov 2015 #4
Not so sure about that lordsummerisle Nov 2015 #10
i've never seen this much making up of shit Enrique Nov 2015 #5
yes Skittles Nov 2015 #19
You nailed it underpants Nov 2015 #26
Sometimes I tune in RW radio to hear what they are saying, it's another alternative universe for RKP5637 Nov 2015 #28
I do too underpants Nov 2015 #30
I used to travel through some pretty RW states/areas. I'd get up in the morning and go down RKP5637 Nov 2015 #31
Ben sees many things that lesser men can not Angry Dragon Nov 2015 #6
Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Bush making Rubio and Cruz seem almost sane rurallib Nov 2015 #7
The man can't possibly be this stupid. Is he medicated? WestSeattle2 Nov 2015 #11
I think the man IS that stupid Skittles Nov 2015 #20
Ben, Don't back down! Those drugs you took did not cause you to hallucinate. NCjack Nov 2015 #12
Ben Carson doesn't stand behind Ben Carson. truthisfreedom Nov 2015 #13
I have a theory about the cheering Muslims flamingdem Nov 2015 #15
I remember them leftynyc Nov 2015 #23
Was the West Bank in New Jersey at the time? randome Nov 2015 #27
Somehow I think - since the two of them are equally flakey flamingdem Nov 2015 #32
You would think his "handlers" would run like the wind. Vinca Nov 2015 #24
His handlers have extensive backgrounds. randome Nov 2015 #29

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
21. Conspiracy bullshit from
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:43 AM
Nov 2015

the worst bullshit artist on the left - Cockburn. Thinks Israel did 9/11. Fuck him. I honestly can't believe anyone here listens to this clown.

PSPS

(13,594 posts)
8. Yes, and Yasir Arafat donated blood, and sympathy was universal in every country.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:30 PM
Nov 2015

I remember seeing pictures of vigils created outside every US Embassy in the world, including those in countries ordinarily our adversary. Too bad that once-in-many-lifetimes window of possibility was summarily dismissed by the criminal cabal in the white house at the time.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
9. He "doesn't stand behind" those comments? That's what you say when some intemperate
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:43 PM
Nov 2015

staffer goes off message and starts blathering politically damaging crap. Those remarks were not spewed by some staffer but by the candidate himself, so it's not as easy to disavow them.

tblue37

(65,340 posts)
16. It is ridiculous for Carson or his campaign to say he "doesn't stand behind"
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:00 AM
Nov 2015

comments that he himself made.

When a politician's staffer does or says something that the public clearly disapproves of, even if it is what the politician believes, and even if the politician told the staffer to run the comments up the flagpole to see how people react, the politician will cover his ass by saying he doesn't stand behind the staffer's comments.

The point is to maintain plausible deniability, as if the staffer made the comment all on his own, entirely without the knowledge or approval of the politician. That way the politician protects his image from being contaminated by the public backlash against the action or statement.

But when the politician himself says or does whatever it is that the public is disgusted or outraged by, it is absurd for him to say he doesn't stand behind his own words or actions, as though someone else is responsible for them.

That is the point of my comment that provoked your "huh?"

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. But exactly what the teabaggers want
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:44 AM
Nov 2015

which is why they love donald. Never apologize - it shows weakness. Imbeciles.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
3. Carson is very Reaganesque...
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:01 PM
Nov 2015

My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not." - Ronald Reagan, admitting the Iran-Contra Affair, March 1987 ...

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
4. republicans will continue to play Carson for many more months.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:01 PM
Nov 2015

Carson is great media bait, all media bite on his bizarre- weird words. $$fox$$

lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
10. Not so sure about that
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 09:01 PM
Nov 2015

he's fading in the polls now and with all the emphasis on foreign policy and security and his inability to effectively address those issues, Repubs will be looking for someone with a stronger message, i.e. Trump, Rubio and Cruz...

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
5. i've never seen this much making up of shit
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:07 PM
Nov 2015

in a presidential election. Starting with Carly Fiorina talking about the abortion video she saw but which doesn't exist.

I think it's the influence of RW radio, where the audience demands made-up shit.

Skittles

(153,159 posts)
19. yes
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:09 AM
Nov 2015

they have been lapping up made-up shit for so long they no longer know what is real and what is not real

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
28. Sometimes I tune in RW radio to hear what they are saying, it's another alternative universe for
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:01 AM
Nov 2015

sure. The lies and distortions are chilling.

underpants

(182,788 posts)
30. I do too
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:24 AM
Nov 2015

It used to be a great way of hearing the next BS storyline now it's just like a Top 40 station - the same thing all day in a loop.

They get up and Fox & Friends (really all morning shows) give them their talking points, anytime they are in a car it is reinforced (Beck sometimes has his own craziness) and then they get home for the same "News" and then Megan and the old men finish off the day approving it.

When they got to or watch rally's they DEMAND to hear the same thing. You gotta play the hits as they say.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)
31. I used to travel through some pretty RW states/areas. I'd get up in the morning and go down
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:43 AM
Nov 2015

for breakfast at the hotel/motel and guests would be sitting in the dining room, Fox News blaring ... they were in like a trance getting their scripts and talking points for the day. Dead pan looks on their faces, eyes glazed over, staring at Fox News like a mind meld was going on.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
7. Trump, Carson, Fiorina, Bush making Rubio and Cruz seem almost sane
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 08:12 PM
Nov 2015

by comparison. Repugs have such a low bar that not being totally fucking crazy like the rest of the pack gives you a big kick to being president.

On our side a candidate has to be damn near a saint. On their side, just not certifiably insane.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
12. Ben, Don't back down! Those drugs you took did not cause you to hallucinate.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:34 PM
Nov 2015

Instead, they sharpened and intensified your memory. You saw that video.

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
13. Ben Carson doesn't stand behind Ben Carson.
Mon Nov 23, 2015, 10:42 PM
Nov 2015

What a president he'd make. Can you imagine the gaffes? NUKE RUSSIA! (several hours pass...) No, wait, I didn't mean that. I mean't Russia has nukes.

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
15. I have a theory about the cheering Muslims
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:58 AM
Nov 2015

There were cheering Muslims on the West Bank. At least that is what was said at the time. Now that was on CNN. Suppose you were watching Fox? They could have implied that it was nearby to stoke hate.

Does anyone remember those "newsreels"?

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
23. I remember them
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:47 AM
Nov 2015

I remember the only people I saw cheering were from the West Bank and some from Gaza. EVERYONE else was showing support. Donald lied and his supporters don't give a shit - it's that simple.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
27. Was the West Bank in New Jersey at the time?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:56 AM
Nov 2015

Because that's where Trump said he saw cheering. I don't recall if Carson made that same specific 'mistake'.

On edit: he was that specific.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-carson-trump-cheering-nj-9-11

"There were people that were cheering on the other side of New Jersey where you have large Arab populations."



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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
32. Somehow I think - since the two of them are equally flakey
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:32 PM
Nov 2015

... well maybe Carson wins in that department ...but they might have just make a false connection. A false memory.

Which goes to show the quality of minds at work. Now if Trump is fully making it up he is diabolical and willing to do anything to win. It might be a new campaign strategy.

Vinca

(50,269 posts)
24. You would think his "handlers" would run like the wind.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 08:48 AM
Nov 2015

He reminds me of Sarah Palin and I'm sure Steve Schmidt and Nicolle Wallace rue the day they thought that was a good idea.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
29. His handlers have extensive backgrounds.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:18 AM
Nov 2015

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