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alp227

(31,994 posts)
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:58 AM Nov 2015

Five people were shot near Black Lives Matter protest site

Source: Mpls Star Tribune

Five protesters were shot Monday night near the Black Lives Matter encampment at the 4th Precinct police station in north Minneapolis, according to police.

According to Miski Noor, a media contact for Black Lives Matter, “a group of white supremacists showed up at the protest, as they have done most nights.”

One of the three outsiders wore a mask, said Dana Jaehnert, who had been at the protest site since early evening. “One guy was shouting the ‘n’ word,” she said.

When about a dozen protesters attempted to herd the group away from the area, Noor said, they “opened fire on about 6 protesters,” hitting five of them. Jaehnert said she heard four gunshots.

Read more: http://www.startribune.com/several-people-were-shot-near-black-lives-matter-protest-site/353121881/

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Five people were shot near Black Lives Matter protest site (Original Post) alp227 Nov 2015 OP
Livestream is going currently starroute Nov 2015 #1
Great police protection and response to a peaceful protest Person 2713 Nov 2015 #6
I thought you were serious from your reply title, was suprised then read the text. Sad. peacebird Nov 2015 #16
Oh I always forget that sarcasm thingy . It has happened before sorry I am learning Person 2713 Nov 2015 #41
Thank you for posting the link. darkangel218 Nov 2015 #8
Words just fail sometimes. Thanks for your information. n/t Judi Lynn Nov 2015 #2
Another domestic terrorism incident. Amazing they weren't killed. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #3
wonder what Trump has to say about this nt Aria36 Nov 2015 #4
Some more at another thread. Rec'd both for attention progree Nov 2015 #5
This is insane! herding cats Nov 2015 #7
I'm not holding my breath waiting for arrests here. Stryst Nov 2015 #9
The cops here are bad very very bad Kalidurga Nov 2015 #10
+1 That's what I was thinking/wondering about... eShirl Nov 2015 #11
Gunmen Sought After 5 Are Shot at Protest of Police in Minneapolis struggle4progress Nov 2015 #12
Police: Five shot near Minneapolis protest scene struggle4progress Nov 2015 #13
I was wondering where that came from. Ellison is right, 7962 Nov 2015 #32
they coordinated via 4chan under the weapons board. /k grahampuba Nov 2015 #42
Well if ones a Hispanic, that would kinda do away with him being a white supremacist 7962 Nov 2015 #43
ealier videos grahampuba Nov 2015 #44
One of the commenters said "I know that guy. He's Venezuelan!" 7962 Nov 2015 #45
Five People Shot at Minneapolis Protest, No Fatalities struggle4progress Nov 2015 #14
5 shot near Jamar Clark protest in Minneapolis; 3 suspects sought struggle4progress Nov 2015 #15
I'm sure this will be all over the news, right? Scuba Nov 2015 #17
CBS covered it on their morning news program today. MineralMan Nov 2015 #24
THIS. IS. TERRORISM. NT retrowire Nov 2015 #18
Yep. White supremacy + guns = terrorism. nt valerief Nov 2015 #23
More Teabagger terrorism AngryAmish Nov 2015 #19
jesus...fucking...christ... Blue_Tires Nov 2015 #20
the new republican normal... getagrip_already Nov 2015 #21
Another mad and illegal act in the race war perpetrated by these Agnosticsherbet Nov 2015 #22
that's an expected reaction heaven05 Nov 2015 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author IHateTheGOP Nov 2015 #26
Wow many times recently have we read "inciting a race riot"? underpants Nov 2015 #27
well,hey have that in common with daesh getagrip_already Nov 2015 #29
Most of the people with multiple guns bought them because of the "upcoming race riots" LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #39
Sad day but if this video is true the shooter will go free on SYG or self defense SpookyDem Nov 2015 #28
I don't believe we have SYG in MN. geardaddy Nov 2015 #36
So one group wearing masks is telling another group wearing masks to take off the masks? 7962 Nov 2015 #38
This terrible. Police should have been keeping the two groups jwirr Nov 2015 #30
Here's a link to the AP version. apnu Nov 2015 #31
It took 10 minutes for police to respond people Nov 2015 #33
More than like some police were in the white group. The were hoping to LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #40
"When about a dozen protesters attempted to herd the group away from the area" FLPanhandle Nov 2015 #34
no and they have tried glinda Nov 2015 #35
Suspect caught. geardaddy Nov 2015 #37

starroute

(12,977 posts)
1. Livestream is going currently
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:59 AM
Nov 2015
http://livestream.com/unicornriot/events/4512162

On edit: Witnesses saying the shooters had been hanging around the protest for several days. When the protesters tried to move them away peacefully, they waited until they reached a dark area where nobody was filming and shot four or five people. Two or three with minor wounds, one shot in the leg, one in the stomach.

The cops just stood around and refused to hear about it for five minutes. Then they maced the protesters who were filming them and told them, "You asked for this." It took 15-20 minutes for an ambulance to show up.

A lot of people got videos. The shooters had ski masks, but apparently there is video of one of them unmasked.

Witness says, "Tweet at Obama. Cause he needs to be here. They're fucking killing us. Pardon my language."

Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
41. Oh I always forget that sarcasm thingy . It has happened before sorry I am learning
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:03 PM
Nov 2015

Anyway how bout that police attitude !

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
7. This is insane!
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:42 AM
Nov 2015

They shot them one block from the police station and got away? Hopefully some of the protesters have video of them from before.

Stryst

(714 posts)
9. I'm not holding my breath waiting for arrests here.
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:11 AM
Nov 2015

I have a feeling that at least some of the 4th precinct officers think of these guys as "good guys", maybe even giving the cops a helping hand.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
10. The cops here are bad very very bad
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:16 AM
Nov 2015

It isn't just in Minneapolis it's in the suburbs too. This is one of the worst places for Black people I would say AA, but they are even worse to immigrants.

I don't even know where there were more white supremacist in this story, outside the precinct shooting or inside biding their sweet time to do anything about it.

eShirl

(18,477 posts)
11. +1 That's what I was thinking/wondering about...
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:58 AM
Nov 2015
I don't even know where there were more white supremacist in this story, outside the precinct shooting or inside biding their sweet time to do anything about it.

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
12. Gunmen Sought After 5 Are Shot at Protest of Police in Minneapolis
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:30 AM
Nov 2015

By ASHLEY SOUTHALL
NOV. 24, 2015

... The Minneapolis Police Department said in a statement early Tuesday morning that officers had responded to reports of multiple gunshots about a block north of the Fourth Precinct around 10:40 p.m. Monday. The victims were taken to hospitals with injuries that were not considered life-threatening, the police said.

Miski Noor ... said the shooting happened as demonstrators were escorting three masked men who had been behaving suspiciously away from the site of the rally, where people have gathered for more than a week to protest the Nov. 15 shooting of Jamar Clark ...

When they reached a dark area, the men turned around and opened fire on the demonstrators before fleeing, Ms. Noor said ...

Ms. Noor said one of the victims was shot in the stomach and underwent surgery early Tuesday.

The police said on Twitter that they were looking for three white male suspects. There had been no arrests early Tuesday. Officials said investigators were still collecting evidence and seeking and interviewing witnesses ...


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/11/25/us/minneapolis-shooting-protest-police-jamar-clark.html?_r=0

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
13. Police: Five shot near Minneapolis protest scene
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:31 AM
Nov 2015
... "I don't want to perpetuate rumor," U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison, who has joined the group throughout the week-plus demonstration, said after the shootings. "I'd rather just try to get the facts out. That's a better way to go. I know there's a lot of speculation as to who these people were. And they well could have been, I'm not trying to say they weren't white supremacists. But I just haven't been able to piece together enough information to say with any real clarity."

Ellison met with some of the bundled-up demonstrators after the Monday night shootings. Temperatures in Minneapolis barely reached 30 degrees in the early hours of Tuesday morning ...


http://www.mprnews.org/story/2015/11/24/fourth-precinct
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
32. I was wondering where that came from. Ellison is right,
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:43 PM
Nov 2015

so far nothing I've read has any proof that these were "white supremacists', only white people. And no, they're not interchangeable

grahampuba

(169 posts)
42. they coordinated via 4chan under the weapons board. /k
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:36 PM
Nov 2015

Ive been questioning the White Supremacist line also.

What is the term for these guys who hate everybody but their first person shooter co-gamers. And will say anything to shock and disturb. They were trolling hard online and posting up videos of their interaction with BLM and protesters at the 4th precinct late last week.

"Minneapolis police said they arrested a 23-year-old white man in Bloomington at 11:20 a.m. Tuesday. A second shooting suspect, a 32-year-old Hispanic man, was arrested in south Minneapolis at 12:05 p.m., police said on Twitter. The search for other suspects continues."

http://www.startribune.com/police-searching-for-suspects-who-fired-into-crowd-at-blm-protest-outside-4th-precinct/353154811/

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
43. Well if ones a Hispanic, that would kinda do away with him being a white supremacist
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 05:54 PM
Nov 2015

Unless he's really good at hiding it
From that article, it says guys showed up "wearing masks" and they started to chase them away? Why? And from the video i've seen. a LOT of people there were wearing masks. A lot of this doesnt make sense. Did these guys say they were gonna start something? Or were they just chased off because they were "white"?

grahampuba

(169 posts)
44. ealier videos
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:19 PM
Nov 2015

earlier videos from this /k group had them making some threats against BLM and waving a gun around.
https://www.facebook.com/BlackLivesMatterMinneapolis/videos/1010885932288533/
http://pastebin.com/FkA1B2rq

The protesters were made aware of this and had been on the lookout for agitators. I think these guys showed up with that as their purpose as accounts have them shouting racial slurs before being run off by the group of protesters.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
45. One of the commenters said "I know that guy. He's Venezuelan!"
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:48 PM
Nov 2015

From the looks of who has been arrested, maybe he did know him

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
14. Five People Shot at Minneapolis Protest, No Fatalities
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:33 AM
Nov 2015
... The shootings occurred late Monday night about a block from the police department’s fourth Precinct, where protesters have been demonstrating since the shooting of 24-year-old Jamar Clark ...

Mr. Clark’s family, in a statement attributed to his brother Eddie Sutton and issued through U.S. Rep. Keith Ellison’s office, thanked protesters for “the incredible support” they have shown the family.

“But in light of tonight’s shootings, the family feels out of imminent concern for the safety of the occupiers, we must get the occupation of the fourth precinct ended and onto the next step,” the statement said ...


http://www.wsj.com/articles/five-people-shot-at-minneapolis-protest-no-fatalities-1448356831

struggle4progress

(118,196 posts)
15. 5 shot near Jamar Clark protest in Minneapolis; 3 suspects sought
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:40 AM
Nov 2015
... Mica Grimm, an organizer with Black Lives Matter Minneapolis who said she arrived on the scene soon after the shooting, said two of the wounded were hit in the leg, another in the arm and a fourth in the stomach.

None of their identities was released and no information was provided about the potential motive in the shooting ...

Social media reports indicated the shooting took place during a confrontation between protesters and several counter-protesters. Some of the reports suggested that white supremacists were involved. However, police did not address those assertions in their news release ...

Protesters saw three people wearing masks who "weren't supposed to be there," Omeoga said. Eventually, the three people left the crowd and began walking down the street, and a few protesters followed. When they reached a corner, the three people pulled out weapons and gunshots rang out, Omeoga said ...


http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_29158835/5-shot-near-jamar-clark-protest-north-minneapolis

getagrip_already

(14,577 posts)
21. the new republican normal...
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 09:59 AM
Nov 2015

nothing to see here citizens. move along.

The police are rounding up a group of black suspects. They will get to the bottom of this. Really. Trust them.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
25. that's an expected reaction
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:30 AM
Nov 2015

Last edited Tue Nov 24, 2015, 06:37 PM - Edit history (1)

From very evil, wicked and hateful americans. They, with the news about the alabama trump incident where he condoned his supporters actions towards that black protester who was beaten and no one arrested, probably have emboldened racists NATIONWIDE. No doubt in my mind. This has made me very angry. This can't stand.

Response to alp227 (Original post)

underpants

(182,549 posts)
27. Wow many times recently have we read "inciting a race riot"?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 10:34 AM
Nov 2015

Or "race war"

Something is going on out there in their internet.

Dylan Roof in Charleston.
Three thugs got busted here in Richmond with a plan to attack black churches and synagogues in order to incite a race war.

getagrip_already

(14,577 posts)
29. well,hey have that in common with daesh
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:03 PM
Nov 2015

They both want to eliminate the grey area that most sane people live in, and create a holy war. So far, the radical christianists haven't succeeded in baiting the black community into open warfare. But they are persistent.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
39. Most of the people with multiple guns bought them because of the "upcoming race riots"
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:58 PM
Nov 2015

Because you know blacks always have to riot for some reason. The people in that protest group are very
smart. MLK always preached peaceful protest. Do not strike out at the cops or the racists let them hurt you left them make fools of them selves. The protesters in Ferguson played into the right-wingers game plan. These people are not (and hopefully not going forward either). Only let the white supremacists make the moves and hurt them selves. MLK preach if they hit you on your right turn so they hit you on your left.

It works.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
38. So one group wearing masks is telling another group wearing masks to take off the masks?
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 03:36 PM
Nov 2015

back and forth?
If there was punching going on, then someone should've been recording. Especially these days

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
30. This terrible. Police should have been keeping the two groups
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 12:29 PM
Nov 2015

separated. Both up to the point of the shooting were protesting. BLM were protesting another shooting while the idiots were protesting BLM. It should have been police who were escorting the three men.

This is very sad because it was unnecessary - the police were not doing their job.

I understand that Minneapolis has called the FBI in and that is good. I hope they find those idiots and do not kill them in doing so. I want them to tell us who they were following - Trump?

people

(618 posts)
33. It took 10 minutes for police to respond
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 01:47 PM
Nov 2015

Protest was right outside police station. Shootings were one block away but according to a some who were there police waited 10 minutes to respond, even though you could hear the shots and people upset and it was chaotic after the shootings. Makes you wonder whether someone knew in the pd that this was going to happen. Hope that was not the case.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
40. More than like some police were in the white group. The were hoping to
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 04:01 PM
Nov 2015

get BLM all upset so they would start rioting. "Everyone knows that when you get some blacks upset that they always have to riot. It's genetics". That is what the white supremacists really believe. Just have to channel the interior MLK.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
34. "When about a dozen protesters attempted to herd the group away from the area"
Tue Nov 24, 2015, 02:24 PM
Nov 2015

I don't know if Minnasota has a Stand Your Ground Law, but in the wild west of republican Florida gun laws, this would have been considered a legal shooting.

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