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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 02:04 PM Nov 2015

Russia bombs aid convoy amid airspace dispute, Turkey says

Source: News.az

Russian warplanes bombed a Turkish truck convoy at the Syrian border on Wednesday amid increasing tensions between the two countries over Turkey's downing of a Russian jet.

Video from Doğan News Agency showed the aftermath of the strikes near Azaz, a Syrian border town, Grasswire reports.

Turkish media said the trucks belonged to IHH Humanitarian Relief Foundation, an Istanbul-based humanitarian organization with connections to President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan. IHH said it has teams in the area but did not own the trucks.

The state-run Anadolu News Agency blamed Russia for the attack and said the trucks were taking supplies to refugees.
Seven people were killed and ten others injured in the air strike, Daily Sabah reported.

Read more: http://news.az/articles/turkey/103008



Breaking: 2nd convoy struck


According to Putin TV (RT), it's still a "mystery" who bombed the convoy
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Russia bombs aid convoy amid airspace dispute, Turkey says (Original Post) uhnope Nov 2015 OP
Awww an ISIS convoy of supplies were attacked. Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #1
I guess that allows Ukraine to bomb those illegal Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #2
Aid convoy for war refugees. But thanks again for showing us uhnope Nov 2015 #3
You need to step up your game. Jesus Malverde Nov 2015 #18
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #23
'Heartless, lying shill'??? - Projecting much, are we? - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #19
Any support? elljay Nov 2015 #4
I am with you. coyote Nov 2015 #7
And this is what happens when you do something fucking stupid. blackspade Nov 2015 #5
Not that I disagree with criticism of both parties... renegade000 Nov 2015 #6
No question that the Russans are propping up Assad.... blackspade Nov 2015 #14
Those "Turkemens" have been trafficing weapons and men to ISIS newthinking Nov 2015 #28
Don't mess with Putin. 840high Nov 2015 #8
K & R N/T w0nderer Nov 2015 #9
Did they get tired of just bombing hospitals? underpants Nov 2015 #10
There something to be said about the "big lie" renegade000 Nov 2015 #13
yeah it's getting like Duma Underground uhnope Nov 2015 #27
So we are claiming it was humanatarian aid fingrin Nov 2015 #11
What did Erdogan expect? The Russians to throw flowers? Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #12
I wonder what Russia would have done in Ukraine... joshcryer Nov 2015 #17
Interesting thought experiment. Have fun with it. n/t Comrade Grumpy Nov 2015 #22
I know what the Putinista response would've been. joshcryer Nov 2015 #24
Turkey houses 2 million syrian refugees now & IHH is a legit humanitarian org. Sunlei Nov 2015 #15
IHH aren't claiming the trucks were theirs - that is a Turkish government claim. Nihil Nov 2015 #20
One "oopsie" deserves another... LS_Editor Nov 2015 #16
Who was Turkey aiding? lark Nov 2015 #21
this is bad... BadGimp Nov 2015 #25
How was Russia supposed to know? Do we know Turkey is telling the truth? forsaken mortal Nov 2015 #26
 

Duckhunter935

(16,974 posts)
2. I guess that allows Ukraine to bomb those illegal
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 02:20 PM
Nov 2015

Aid convoys to the terrorists that they have imported into that country, right?

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
3. Aid convoy for war refugees. But thanks again for showing us
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 02:24 PM
Nov 2015

what a heartless, lying shill for the fascist, warmaking Putin gov thinks--and will proudly post on Thanksgiving.

Saved for posterity:


Jesus Malverde (9,412 posts)
1. Awww an ISIS convoy of supplies were attacked.


Response to Jesus Malverde (Reply #18)

elljay

(1,178 posts)
4. Any support?
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 03:04 PM
Nov 2015

Do you have any support for your statement? IHH is anything but a peaceful humanitarian organization. This was the group on the Mavi Marmara who attacked the Israeli soldiers and were killed. There have also been reports linking IHH to ISIS arms shipments and members of IHH have been arrested for having links to Al Qaeda. They definitely have a political and military component to their charitable activities. That being said, it is still always best to have proof, hence my question.

 

coyote

(1,561 posts)
7. I am with you.
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 03:16 PM
Nov 2015

The Turks are supplying the "rebels" that the Russians are fighting. Humanitarian aid my ass. Who do you think is buying the Syrian oil that is financing ISIS? Anything the Turkish say is suspect.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
5. And this is what happens when you do something fucking stupid.
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 03:10 PM
Nov 2015

Not that the Russians are blameless in all this, but what did that fuckwit Erdogen think was going to happen?
Erdogen was unbelievably naive to think that the could shoot a Russian jet down with no consequences.
His foolishness just cost a ton of people their lives. He has as much blood on his hands as Putin in this.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
6. Not that I disagree with criticism of both parties...
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 03:16 PM
Nov 2015

But it's not as if Putin wasn't bombing civilian and non-civilian targets in this area before the shoot-down: Turkey summons Russian envoy over bombing of Turkmens in Syria: PM. What is a reaction to what in this giant mess is a muddle.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
14. No question that the Russans are propping up Assad....
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 05:41 PM
Nov 2015

And bombing non-ISIS targets to further that goal.
But Erdogan's actions are fucking idiotic even if the goal is to further consolidate is fundamentalist party's power by generating an external enemy worthy of the name, or to generate a wider conflict that will consolidate his power at home.... or both.
He is like a lot of fundies, short sighted with no concept of consequences.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
28. Those "Turkemens" have been trafficing weapons and men to ISIS
Sat Nov 28, 2015, 03:42 AM
Nov 2015

There is a reason that Russia has been bombing that border. You have to stop the supplies of mercenaries, weapons, and the illegal trade. The majority of foreign ISIS mercenaries have been aided that way and no doubt those lovely "Turkmen" have been making a ton of money aiding it.

Why wouldn't any country wanting to stop ISIS cut off the support moving through the north? It doesn't make sense not to do so.

underpants

(182,763 posts)
10. Did they get tired of just bombing hospitals?
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 04:40 PM
Nov 2015

Depending on reports Russia has bombed 10 or 12 hospitals in Syria

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
13. There something to be said about the "big lie"
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 05:38 PM
Nov 2015

When we bomb a hospital and do damage control, there's a healthy criticism and skepticism about official accounts and the minor inconsistencies there in. When Russia bombs a hospital, their official account is something like, "what hospital? and even if we did, they were ISIS anyways...", and bunch of people on DU lap that shit up.

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
27. yeah it's getting like Duma Underground
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:21 PM
Nov 2015

except they're not only lapping it up, they're actually spreading it

fingrin

(120 posts)
11. So we are claiming it was humanatarian aid
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 05:20 PM
Nov 2015

By an orginisation that knew nothing about the convoy. Im calling bullshit on this one

"Footage released online by the Istanbul-based Humanitarian Relief Foundation (IHH) shows plumes of smoke from the burning trucks and people running about in panic. At least 20 trucks were engulfed in flames".

"The mission, however, wasn’t sponsored or organized by the IHH, the group said. No organization has as yet confirmed that the convoy belonged to them".

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
12. What did Erdogan expect? The Russians to throw flowers?
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 05:24 PM
Nov 2015

I guess Turkey might want to think twice about sending anything across the Syrian border. Once they cross the border, it's not Turkey's country. It is Syria, and the Russians are there to help the government in Damascus. They will have an increasingly small tolerance for any more Turkish shenanigans.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
15. Turkey houses 2 million syrian refugees now & IHH is a legit humanitarian org.
Thu Nov 26, 2015, 07:10 PM
Nov 2015

LINK http://www.ihh.org.tr/en

Putin's Jets bomb anything that moves on the ground.

 

Nihil

(13,508 posts)
20. IHH aren't claiming the trucks were theirs - that is a Turkish government claim.
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 08:55 AM
Nov 2015

> Putin's Jets bomb anything that moves on the ground.

Face it: Erdogan's support for ISIS involves tankers moving from Syria to Turkey
and trucks moving from Turkey to Syria hence either are legitimate targets.


forsaken mortal

(112 posts)
26. How was Russia supposed to know? Do we know Turkey is telling the truth?
Fri Nov 27, 2015, 09:07 PM
Nov 2015

For all they know, these trucks could have been sending supplies to rebels. Turkey and Russia are basically no longer communicating with each other.

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