John Mccain And Lindsey Graham Want 100,000 Foreign Troops To Fight ISIS In Syria
Source: Agence France-Presse
(AFP) US senators John McCain and Lindsey Graham called Sunday for 100,000 foreign soldiers, most from Sunni regional states but also including Americans, to fight the Islamic State group in Syria.
Both McCain, the chair of the Senate Committee on Armed Services, and Graham, one of its members, sharply criticised current US strategy as insufficient and unsuccessful in defeating the jihadists.
That strategy has consisted of carrying out air strikes against IS in Iraq and Syria in support of local ground forces, which have also received weapons and training.
I think 100,000 would be (the) total requirement, McCain told journalists in Baghdad when asked about the size of the anti-IS force he and Graham were advocating for Syria.
Read more: http://jpupdates.com/2015/11/29/john-mccain-and-lindsey-graham-want-100000-foreign-troops-to-fight-isis-in-syria/
forest444
(5,902 posts)And Lindsey: behave!
Downwinder
(12,869 posts)forest444
(5,902 posts)They'd probably be too busy barhopping in Alabama, complaining about cysts or flat feet, freshening themselves up from some recent "mishap," or learning about joie de vivre from the people who do it best.
Mais c'est si bon, non?
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)I feel a draft
mdbl
(4,972 posts)but I was on the same track of making his whimpy worthless behind go and fight alongside the other soldiers he would send there.
forest444
(5,902 posts)As you probably know, there's a parallel in American history to Miss Lindsay's chicken hawk hypocrisy: none other than Senator Joe McCarthy.
McCarthy, you see, was actually brought down by a homosexual scandal - not his own, but by way of his chief legal counsel and dirty trickster, Roy Cohn. It was Cohn who, for reasons of personal revenge, talked McCarthy into persecuting the U.S. Army of all things - the decision that would, of course, bring about McCarthy's downfall.
At the height of his Red-baiting career in 1953, Cohn's assistant (and reputed lover), David Schine, was drafted by the Army. They refused to waive Schine's draft despite (maybe because of) relentless pressure and a barrage of threats from Cohn, and his response was to launch the infamous Army-McCarthy Hearings.
Cohn had grossly overestimated public hysteria, even at the height of the Red Scare, and the ploy of course backfired - destroying "Tail-Gunner Joe" in one 20-second comeback from Army counsel Joseph Welch:
Schine went on to marry Miss Universe, as it happens; he even produced The French Connection. He and his wife died in a suspicious small airplane crash in 1996.
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,765 posts)Lets give McCain and Graham a TANK and let them go there by themselves...good luck fellas!
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)In Syria.
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Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)and we should support them.
To date, ISIS has not proven a direct threat to the US. I suspect if they pull of a Paris like attack we will have the Big Red 1 and the First Marines driving through Damascus. I don't think that is the best way to deal with them, but it is not that difficult to get a majority behind a war.
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Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)is that there is no way to measure a victory.
In WWII we fought against governments, and when those governments lost all ability to make war upon us, we had won. Then, we went in and helped their people rebuild their nations and they are now good members of the world.
There is no metric that allows us to measure victory against ISIS.
We finally killed Osama, but Al Qaeda is still out there. In fact, ISIS used to be Al Qaeda in Iraq. Ironically, Al Qaeda now fights ISIS with us.
When would we know ISIS is defeated? Is a group that springs up using, former members and the ideas and methods of ISIS a new group or the same group?
To me, the best way to combat ISIS is to get functioning governments in Syria and Iraq. Had ISIS not appeared in a failed state in the midst of a civil war they would never have been the plague they are now.
The best way to deal with international terrorism is through legal systems, national laws, and international law. Terrorists who attack civilians should be captured and tried in a court of law, the way we are going to try the man who shot up the Planned Parenthood office in Colorado.
uhnope
(6,419 posts)but these two guys have no more cred than Putin when it comes to military intervention
valerief
(53,235 posts)marble falls
(56,361 posts)Trumps, Cruzes, Bushes, etc. And my answer would still be "NO!"
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Just 50,000 from each of your states. You can do it!
yurbud
(39,405 posts)And their audience to do the fighting.
Hell, they could pay for it too.
truthisfreedom
(23,113 posts)They can make the sacrifice for this idiocy.
Tempest
(14,591 posts)Oh yeah...
Mr. Wolfowitz, the deputy defense secretary, opened a two-front war of words on Capitol Hill, calling the recent estimate by Gen. Eric K. Shinseki of the Army that several hundred thousand troops would be needed in postwar Iraq, "wildly off the mark." Pentagon officials have put the figure closer to 100,000 troops.
Renew Deal
(81,803 posts)Daniel537
(1,560 posts)Because these two birds say Assad is the biggest threat of all and must be removed at all costs. So, step up boys, put up or shut up.
Yavin4
(35,357 posts)For argument's sake, we do this, and this coalition defeats ISIS. Then what? Overthrow Assad? On what authority? But, let's keep going. We do overthrow Assad. Then what? Who replaces him?
lastlib
(22,981 posts)Not only "NO!" but [font size=10]HELL, NO!![/font size]
not unless YOU go first, Lindy! You right behind him, Johnny-boy. (or vice versa, I don't care) You got such a hard-on for war and bloodshed, let's see how big you talk when it's YOUR blood on the line!
chelsea0011
(10,115 posts)Solly Mack
(90,740 posts)Just *Poof*. Gone.
No more posturing by either of the puffed up popinjays.
beerandjesus
(1,301 posts)Then Hillary the Fighter can come in and negotiate it down to 950,000.
That way, we get more war, we're all ready for the next war with Iran, and most importantly, Hillary gets to show how tough she is AND her supporters can crow about what a great negotiator she is! Everybody wins!
Paladin
(28,204 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Putins trying to shut that door, but it's probably decades to late for Russia.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Our American war profiteers will have to 'make do' with-out Americans Federal money and without American lives at risk.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Then escalate...see Vietnam.
If a republican gets elected in 2016 you can expect shit like this on day one.
atreides1
(16,046 posts)SANG had 75,000 active soldiers and 25,000 tribal levies. The SANG is a military force independent of the Ministry of Defense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabian_National_Guard
Beowulf42
(202 posts)And let those war loving assholes be in the front ranks with their M16s and a 40 lbs. backpack. Old men should never - never - propose a war that only young people fight in. We said we would never forget Viet Nam. Bullshit. Those words were barely out of the mouths of politicians before the Military/Industrial Complex was planning the next war.
harun
(11,348 posts)mdbl
(4,972 posts)Hissyspit
(45,788 posts)daleo
(21,317 posts)This betrays either ignorance or the pretence of it.
McKim
(2,412 posts)This is disgusting. As a person who lost a family member in Vietnam, I say enough!
hibbing
(10,076 posts)Welcomed with flowers and candy.
Peace
GOLGO 13
(1,681 posts)A man well past his 50's with no children & never having been married? What's that we call a man like that...Lindsey?
Canoe52
(2,944 posts)Shouldn't take more than 2-3 months