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herding cats

(19,558 posts)
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:16 PM Nov 2015

Civilian Killed In Planned Parenthood Attack Was An Iraq War Veteran

Source: CBS

According to KKTV in Colorado Springs, one of the victims has been identified as Ke’Arre M. Stewart, according to the man’s family. Stewart’s wife said he leaves behind his children and she wants justice for her loss.

Stewart’s sister, Temprest Llyod, told KKTV that Stewart is an Iraq War veteran. He was outside Planned Parenthood making a phone call because he didn’t have service in the building. He was shot by the gunman, ran inside and was the person who told everyone to get down, get into rooms and called 911.

The other civilian who was killed has been identified as Jennifer Markovsky, according to the woman’s family. Her father, John Ah-King, told The Denver Post that his 36-year-old daughter was a kind-hearted, lovable person with two children. He said she was accompanying a friend to the Planned Parenthood clinic when she was killed.

Garrett Swasey, a 44-year-old officer at the University of Colorado, Colorado Springs, was also killed.

Read more: http://denver.cbslocal.com/2015/11/29/civilian-killed-in-planned-parenthood-attack-was-an-iraq-war-veteran/

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Civilian Killed In Planned Parenthood Attack Was An Iraq War Veteran (Original Post) herding cats Nov 2015 OP
WTF??? mdbl Nov 2015 #1
80 percent of the motions filed in the Boston Marathon bombing were sealed. Fawke Em Nov 2015 #7
Maybe they want to get a conviction or even, possibly, convicgtions and not a retrial. JDPriestly Nov 2015 #11
That is what I was thinking. jwirr Nov 2015 #15
Colorado Springs is extremely right-wing. Unknown Beatle Nov 2015 #12
Colorado Springs atreides1 Nov 2015 #18
3,2,1 exboyfil Nov 2015 #2
A man with a gun and the inability to properly possess the gun. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #3
Not to mention 90-percent Nov 2015 #6
Don't think. Know. That's what really happened. jmowreader Nov 2015 #24
I wish the media would stop referring to civilians and police. Yes, police are terribly FailureToCommunicate Nov 2015 #4
Police are uniformed, weapons-carrying personnel. The military have police as well. To both forces Hekate Nov 2015 #20
Survive Iraq and get gunned down by the "well-regulated militia" in the USA. tabasco Nov 2015 #5
All of this is a horror and a tragedy. Tipperary Nov 2015 #8
Conservative propaganda fueled his hatred Dropletto Nov 2015 #9
There is an on-line fundraiser to benefit his family mnhtnbb Nov 2015 #10
kick Liberal_in_LA Nov 2015 #13
Victims picture Liberal_in_LA Nov 2015 #14
What a shame. I feel for his family. But I'm still seeing red that the GOP egged an idiot to take sinkingfeeling Nov 2015 #16
Killing cops and vets...good job on the hate rhetoric, GOP alcibiades_mystery Nov 2015 #17
I surely have not forgotten Okalahoma City and the day care center. nt Hekate Nov 2015 #21
Nor have I. I also hope you havent forgotten Waco and the 14 KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #27
Wish there was something we could do to stop these gun-nut terrorists Daniel537 Nov 2015 #19
That statement was neither true nor necessary. nt Hekate Nov 2015 #22
No its very true and even more necessary because its what most of our lawmakers will claim Daniel537 Nov 2015 #23
Can't feel safe in public... mdbl Nov 2015 #25
If you are referring to the founders of the country, they sure as hell didn't know davidpdx Nov 2015 #26
Or you could blame capitalism and the for-profit firearms industry. - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #28
That would be one way of looking at it davidpdx Dec 2015 #30
I like the cut of your jib. Our society needs to work much harder on non-violent KingCharlemagne Dec 2015 #31
USA! USA! USA! /sarcasm/ - nt KingCharlemagne Nov 2015 #29

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
1. WTF???
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:22 PM
Nov 2015

the end of the article:

Colorado Springs police say they will not disclose why Dear allegedly opened fire. Police said in a statement Sunday that they are sealing the warrants related to the case against Dear. They said they are not providing information on the weapon used in Friday’s shooting, a timeline of events, or a motive of the suspect. That will continue to stoke speculation about what led to the shooting.


Why????

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
7. 80 percent of the motions filed in the Boston Marathon bombing were sealed.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 07:11 PM
Nov 2015

But, we let the powers that be get away with it because "TERRA! TERRA! TERRA!"

Now that they've seen they can do it without push-back, they will seal more and more of these types of documents.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
12. Colorado Springs is extremely right-wing.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:15 PM
Nov 2015

The shooter is also extremely right-wing. I tend to believe that the two have something to do about the sealing of the documents. The right-wing nuts don't want to be embarrassed about the shooters right-wing agenda and intent.

atreides1

(16,068 posts)
18. Colorado Springs
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:21 PM
Nov 2015

The home of James Dobson's, Focus on the Family scam operation!

Right now I wouldn't trust the police all that much, because on theory, some of them could very well be members of churches affiliated with FotF...and might be inclined to not be completely honest about statements made by Mr. Dear!

As I said it's just a theory...but as we've learned from the Chicago situation...we can't trust the police!!!

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
2. 3,2,1
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:22 PM
Nov 2015

NRA response - If Ke'Arre had been carrying gun, then he would have stopped the gunman at that point. Mark my words that will be the meme of the day.

Sounds like Ke'Arre is as much of a hero as the Swasey to me.

Planned Parenthood was criticized for making this facility a fortress. It appears that is what saved many lives.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
3. A man with a gun and the inability to properly possess the gun.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:26 PM
Nov 2015

Whether he was pushed into a homicidal mood or just anxious to kill, the results is still the same. I have heard RWers cheering for the guy who killed Dr Till, shameful.

jmowreader

(50,543 posts)
24. Don't think. Know. That's what really happened.
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 12:02 AM
Nov 2015

Dr. Tiller was serving as an usher at his church when Scott Roeder assassinated him with a rifle.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,011 posts)
4. I wish the media would stop referring to civilians and police. Yes, police are terribly
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:35 PM
Nov 2015

militarized these days, but they are still "civilians"

not military personnel.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
20. Police are uniformed, weapons-carrying personnel. The military have police as well. To both forces
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:16 PM
Nov 2015

....the rest of us are civilians. The terminology is okay -- what's not okay is sheriffs and police being armed like the military and starting to think they have to act like an occupying army in their/our own country.

 

tabasco

(22,974 posts)
5. Survive Iraq and get gunned down by the "well-regulated militia" in the USA.
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 06:44 PM
Nov 2015

Welcome to America, where the right to life is less important than than the right to own guns.

sinkingfeeling

(51,443 posts)
16. What a shame. I feel for his family. But I'm still seeing red that the GOP egged an idiot to take
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 08:53 PM
Nov 2015

a gun to Planned Parenthood, all based on the vilest of lies. Justice for Ke'Arre and Jennifer and Garrett.

 

alcibiades_mystery

(36,437 posts)
17. Killing cops and vets...good job on the hate rhetoric, GOP
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 09:20 PM
Nov 2015

Of course, the last time the GOP revved up the hate rhetoric this high, their nutso wing blew up a federal building with a daycare center.

And now we have gunner trash spamming DU with how much more "effective" FR is at getting their message out! Good lord.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
27. Nor have I. I also hope you havent forgotten Waco and the 14
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 10:03 AM
Nov 2015

children who died there, mainly BC the FBI was hot to trot. There was never any public reckoning for Waco, hence OKC (at least in McVeigh's and Nichols' minds).

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
19. Wish there was something we could do to stop these gun-nut terrorists
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 10:58 PM
Nov 2015

But a few racist slave owners wrote their opinions down 240 years ago so obviously there's nothing we can ever do to stop this madness.

 

Daniel537

(1,560 posts)
23. No its very true and even more necessary because its what most of our lawmakers will claim
Sun Nov 29, 2015, 11:28 PM
Nov 2015

in order to stifle any true progress on even making a dent in this culture of death that the second amendment has wrought. You'll have to forgive me if I seem emotional but since my family and I were nearly murdered in an act of gun violence recently I feel much more angry about this issue than I did before. And it seems there is no end in sight to this madness.

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
25. Can't feel safe in public...
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 06:51 AM
Nov 2015

where the civilians are armed better than the police. I can't discern who poses the greater threat. I wonder how long it will take the voting public to realize this is their situtation?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
26. If you are referring to the founders of the country, they sure as hell didn't know
Mon Nov 30, 2015, 09:40 AM
Nov 2015

that semi-automatic machine guns would be sold to the public and there would be a thriving black market for criminals to obtain guns. They had no idea the internet would exist. If you were sitting in the room 240 years ago could you have predicted all these things? The Constitution and Bill of Rights are not perfect and anyone who says otherwise is wrong. But to claim that they are responsible is a flat out lie. It is the gun nuts and right wing politicians that continue to exacerbate the problem. Put the blame where it belongs.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
30. That would be one way of looking at it
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 02:17 AM
Dec 2015

I don't think that 100% of the blame though. Another would be how we in society degrade each other in order to try to justify shooting people we don't like. I'm sure we could come up with a long list of things.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
31. I like the cut of your jib. Our society needs to work much harder on non-violent
Tue Dec 1, 2015, 12:44 PM
Dec 2015

conflict resolution, among other things.

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