DNC agrees to sanction more debates

[ErikJ]

Source: The Hill

“Our Democratic candidates have agreed in principle to having the DNC sanction and manage additional debates in our primary schedule, inclusive of New Hampshire this week,” DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz said in a statement.
“However, absent agreement on the details, we will give our campaigns the space to focus on the important work of engaging caucus goers in Iowa. We will reconvene negotiations and finalize the schedule with the agreement of our campaigns on Tuesday morning,” she added.

The New Hampshire Union Leader and MSNBC announced last week that they will hold an unsanctioned Democratic debate in the Granite State in early February. The party had warned that any candidate who participates in an unsanctioned debate would be barred from future debates.

“We have consistently worked with our campaigns to ensure a schedule that is both robust and allows our candidates to engage with voters in a variety of ways, whether through debates, forums, or town halls, while also leaving them the flexibility to attend county fairs and living room conversations for the direct voter contact that matters so much in the early states," Wasserman Schultz said in Sunday's statement. "Those principles will continue to guide these negotiations.”

CNN also announced on Sunday afternoon that the three Democratic presidential candidates -- former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley -- will appear at a town hall in Derry, N.H. on Wednesday evening.

--This report was updated at 2:34 p.m.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/267671-dnc-agrees-to-sanction-more-debates

[retrowire]

1. Bernie's numbers in NH are too high for their comfort.

lol Awesome more debates!

[LibDemAlways]

3. DWS's strategy backfired bigtime. I hope

Bernie and O'Malley stick to their insistence that new debates be held on dates and times when viewers will be more likely to tune in. No more Saturday nights before a holiday crap.

[Warren Stupidity]

4. I guess DWS finally got the call from Clinton ordering it to be so.

Took long enough. These debates could have been arranged back in October when it first became obvious that the goal was to minimize risk for Clinton and exposure for everyone else.

But, better late than never.

[Deny and Shred]

16. It really can't be any more obvious

Two of the candidates were begging for more debates for months.

NOW, after the Bernie blackout is dissipating, after most of Clinton's DC pals have reinforced the socialist message, yet the power of name recognition and inevitiability have worn off, what the candidate(s) want somehow matters to DWS?

Clinton's campaign is proving to be uninspiring, and needs to regroup and re-message. The new debates provide the forum to do so. New debates are now necessary for Clinton, but were off the table before.

[joshcryer]

48. I called this just a day or so ago.

Common sense. If all the participants want it, then do it. Sanders wanted it, Clinton wanted it, and of course O'Malley wanted it.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1078051

I wish posters would fucking grow the fuck up. Jesus.

[Warren Stupidity]

49. In this case one candidate continues to control

the debate schedule. So that is a corrupt mechanism and the growing the fuck up is perhaps something that Clinton's officially naive supporters should engage in.

[joshcryer]

51. Yes, that's why you keep calling for debates.

And call Clinton out when she doesn't want to do one. Instead, what idiots were doing, were cheering Weaver's idiotic "we'll sit out the NH debate if it's unsanctioned." Of course it's going to get sanctioned if Clinton wants it. If you really don't want a pre-NH debate, don't say shit about it, skirt the issue, say you have different plans for that day, etc.

This was a no win situation really because Weaver had been calling for debates forever and Clinton really has nothing to lose having a debate before NH where she's quite far behind.

There will be more debates, because Clinton wants them, Sanders wants them, and DWS is a fucking idiot.

[Warren Stupidity]

52. Idiotic? Sanders would have been barred by participating.

Those still are the rules, and until Clinton picked up the phone and ordered DWS to sanction more debates, Sanders' campaign was doing exactly what they had to do: "love to participate, debates need to be sanctioned. "

you just seem a bit upset that the travesty of having one candidate controlling the party apparatus has been painfully exposed by a rather sophisticated maneuver by the Sanders team.

[joshcryer]

54. No, that's a dumb arguing point.

Do you think MOM and HRC would've been barred too, if they went to an 'unsanctioned' debate?

DWS was stupid for having so few debates (it really should've been an open schedule to begin with), with both candidates calling for more debates.

I'm just tired of this stupidity, because common sense tells you if all the candidates want a debate (particularly the two main challengers), it's going to have to happen. DWS didn't have to get a phone call from Clinton, she just had to use what little brain she has.

[RufusTFirefly]

5. It'll be interesting to watch some people tie themselves into pretzel-like shapes...

... explaining why more debates is suddenly a good thing after spending months staunchly defending the pitiful number we began with.

[winter is coming]

58. I guess six isn't as plentiful as it used to be.

[RufusTFirefly]

59. Fear not. Their defense will be "plausible" and well supported by the echo chamber. n/t

[FlatBaroque]

6. I hope one of Bernie's first actions

Is to replace the DNC chairwoman

[libdem4life]

8. and Tim Conova to replace her as FL Representative.

[FlatBaroque]

14. AMEN!

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[Omaha Steve]

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[libdem4life]

17. Just do it !

[Cassiopeia]

25. That's the best answer

Last edited Sun Jan 31, 2016, 08:16 PM - Edit history (1)

Just remove DWS from Congress altogether.

[libdem4life]

43. Send her packing..I'm sure she can find a job where she can do less damage and still support herself

[Unknown Beatle]

47. Yes, as a Fox News host talking head.

[libdem4life]

60. I'd rather doubt it. She may be just too tainted and not physically attractive enough.

[Unknown Beatle]

63. "not physically attractive enough"

That's an understatement.

On an unrelated subject, I like this song. Whoever made the video named the video, Who Let The Dog Out, instead of, Who Let The Dogs Out.

[TeamPooka]

7. about time. nt

[Gman]

9. While Sanders supporters will love this

It's what they wanted, I like it because regardless of who wins the primaries, these debates provide an excellent side of the party as the clearly sane party. The GOP debates are a train wreck. The Dems are a breath of fresh air.

[joshcryer]

56. Yeah, even with DWS at the DNC common sense prevails.

This is not the case with the Republicans at all.

[Senator Tankerbell]

10. So there can be more debates now that Hillary wants them?

Interesting.

[libdem4life]

18. There are a couple of caveats...one being that one is in Brooklyn...where Bernie is from and HRC

has a campaign office. (Read it here on DU)

[Flying Phoenix]

11. This all has one ending: President Bernard Sanders.

They are now presenting President Bernard Sanders even more, and will inform every single American that there *IS* a better alternative than Clinton.

Thank you, DNC, for finally imparting your wisdom to sanction it (as if you had any choice)

[Cassiopeia]

26. When Hillary concedes all that will be left is a massive hole

of debt.

At least we'll be ale to move away from the third way politics though. We can deal with her debt.

[JonLeibowitz]

27. Though I am sure it is irrelevant to the current OP, what exactly is your point? n/t

[Dems to Win]

13. Isn't that special

Now that Hillary feels the need for more debates, Little Debbie suddenly changes her tune.

After ignoring Martin O'Malley's pleas for months on end.

This campaign is really pushing me out of the Democratic Party. I don't have any desire to be in a party with DWS and Nancy Pelosi.

[libdem4life]

21. I know exactly how you feel, However, I want to wait and see what happens after he is elected a

Democratic President. There may be more Establishment folks willing to shift, and he definitely has coattails already. I think what we are seeing, hopefully, is the opportunity to change direction and bring the Party back to its roots. Also, the many Independents and uninterested may suddenly see a party that includes them.

And folks who carried water for HRC and the Establishment will all have to deal with the emerging power structure. Being good politicians, I'd say more will back pedal than go down with the Old Ship. Why? Because they will find themselves, or fear they will find themselves, just like DWS...with opposition from people no one knows...part of the Revolution.

Or, there is already The Third Way Corporate folks...maybe they will want their own party, who knows. I would not be surprised to see HRC jump in here, as I feel she would have done in 2008. After all, she's got nothing politically better to do. Being an abuela is a pastime.

Evolve, or die. But I won't give up on my Democratic Party easily.

[jillan]

19. I really really want Hillary to release her emails..........

the ones between her and DWS.


DWS has long made her intentions known.....
g

[BuelahWitch]

39. Well she WAS Hillary's campaign co-chair in 2008 n/t

[Indepatriot]

20. Can she ever make a statement without lying? Even once?

[SoapBox]

22. Camp Weathervane, the Entrenched Establishment and Banksters..

are in a panic.

I wonder which version of Hill will show up? How many issues will she "evolve" / shape-shift on again?

I saw a hilarious Tweet today, saying she could change her mind on issues, anytime she wanted!

[jmowreader]

23. Be careful of what you wish for, Bernie fans

The more exposure non-millennials have to Bernie, the lower he sinks.

[jmowreader]

32. Easy enough, fine Bernie supporter...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

Sanders gained 8.5 percent between January 1 and January 11, then plateaued, then lost 1.5 percent. In the same period, Clinton lost 5.5 percent during Sanders' period of gain, then gained 3.8 percent during his period of loss. As the realities of Sanders' all-economics platform take hold, he'll get worse while Clinton gets better.

Here's reality: Once the campaign leaves New Hampshire, Bernard Sanders is on track to a beatdown of epic proportions. March 1 is the day his quixotic shot at the presidency ends - he will lose Iowa, win New Hampshire, get stomped in Nevada after the stunt he pulled there, lose South Carolina then get swept on Super Tuesday.

[Robbins]

35. Bullcrap

he isn't going to lose iowa.

clinton is freefall despite what you clinton supporters think.

most poll even ones that have her ahead in iowa so bernie picking up support.

Clinton is acting desperate with her lies and atatcks.

[jmowreader]

38. You are a dreamer if you think Clinton is in "freefall"

What are you basing it on? The number of people who are going to his pep rallies?

Speaking of "lies and attacks," would you like to tell me who in the Sanders campaign is running the Bernie Bro front organization? Those guys are WAY too well-coordinated to be operating independently.

[Robbins]

42. must be tough living in fantasy land

If bernie was no threat clintons wouldn't be lying and even mentioning him.and they wouldn't want any more debates.

[snooper2]

64. I guess if your support continually goes down, that would be considered a freefall correct?

[JimDandy]

28. What do you have to back up that assertion? n/t

[Jackilope]

29. LOL, riiiiiiiiiiggggggghhhht.

[onecaliberal]

30. In upside down world, where camp weathervane supporters live.

[jmowreader]

34. Dude, YOU are the one living in Bizarro World

Do you honestly believe the guy who has promised to double your taxes, shut down an entire industry and large chunks of another one, and get a third of the country laid off so American business can afford to make payroll is going to be elected president? Because that is EXACTLY what Sanders is promising to do.

[onecaliberal]

36. First off, I'm not a "dude" but you keep repeating those republican talking points.

If EVERYONE gets healthcare and college and a living wage then FUCKING HELL YES, raise taxes. It's sad that millions without healthcare and millions of children in poverty and millions working full time but living in poverty is okay just because its not you. Your whole meme makes me ill. We will defeat your candidate because we can and we care, so spare me your comservative narrative defeatist talking points. Maybe you should read about what democrats are and stand for.

[Warren Stupidity]

53. Nope and No Change 2016!

Sign me up.

[Robbins]

37. says you

a supporter of the most right wing and corporate dem ever.

people like me are going to have benefits cut under Dino Clinton.where do you think money is coming for all her wars she supports
from cutting social safety net.If clinton wins nodd sau hello to president trump.

people are pissed and won't take it anymore.that is why bernie and trump will be the nominees.

[jmowreader]

41. If either Sanders or Trump gets into office, they WILL be pissed

Your candidate has no foreign policy. He only supported repealing the Hyde Amendment after we figured out Berniecare with the Hyde Amendment in place means the end of abortion in America. He votes against gun control, and his entire domestic agenda is dependent on his ability to get this massive tax-and-spending plan past 535 people who will then have to return to their districts and tell their constituents, "my votes increased everyone's taxes, cost a lot of you their jobs and forced your hospital to go bankrupt, but forget all that and reelect me anyway." And he's the master of plausible deniability - I've seen the National Nurses United Bernie SuperPAC. I've seen the Bernie Bros. I've seen General Discussion: Primaries. It's a perfect setup: Let other people campaign dirty for you so you can claim clean hands.

Pick the LEAST electable Republican in the entire mix and bring him or her through the primaries to the general. All that Republican has to do is to get up at the last debate, point at Bernard Sanders, and say in a clear voice, "I will not raise your taxes, give everyone a bunch of free stuff that we'll all have to pay for, screw up your healthcare, ignore the rest of the world or shut down your bank, and that's his whole platform in one sentence." Boom: President Fiorina. They try that shit on Hillary and she will flog them for it.

[Robbins]

44. my candiate has been in congress since 1991

and voted against both iraq wars and isn't so quick to want more wars unlike yours who never saw a war she didn't like.

it's rich clinton supports screaming negative campagining with all their tactics against bernie and his supporters.

I think your republican with all your screaming about bernie will raise taxes.

[madokie]

46. I voted to leave it

On Sun Jan 31, 2016, 06:55 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

my candiate has been in congress since 1991
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[hedda_foil]

62. No one is talking about doubling the taxes anyone pays.

This is about the most fucking disingenuous propaganda I've seen here. If you don't know this, check your koolaide. If you do, it's worse.

[Warren Stupidity]

50. That is why he is being crushed in NH with its

aging population.

Oh wait ....

[Jackilope]

31. of course. When Hillary gave thumbs up, DWS budged.

The Democratic Party needs an airing out and good cleaning, starting with a dumpster for all the Third Way relics.

[olddots]

40. this reeks of pay off

[tom_kelly]

45. One has to agree

that it is extremely difficult to maintain positions that frequently shift depending upon poles. The more debates, the more HRC will be turned into a pretzel. Let's have 100 more of them. The message from Bernie will stay the same as it has since day one.

[Kalidurga]

55. They blinked

not that they had much choice. I don't care if there are more debates or not. Sure, I am happy at that the blinked that is always good news. But, even without more debates Bernie is going to win.

[Bernin]

57. And that is why Bernie is a leader

and Hillary is a weathervane.

Well played Senator Sanders.

Now just don't forget to challenge Hillary to make her Goldman Sachs speeches public. And harp on that.

[yurbud]

61. now that Hillary is not inevitable