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LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:01 PM Feb 2016

Citi: World economy trapped in ‘death spiral’

Source: Yahoo/ CNBC

The global economy seems trapped in a "death spiral" that could lead to further weakness in oil prices, recession and a serious equity bear market, Citi (NYSE:C) strategists have warned.

Some analysts — including those at Citi — have turned bearish on the world economy this year, following an equity rout in January and weaker economic data out of China and the U.S.

"The world appears to be trapped in a circular reference death spiral," Citi strategists led by Jonathan Stubbs said in a report on Thursday.

"Stronger U.S. dollar, weaker oil/commodity prices, weaker world trade/petrodollar liquidity, weaker EM (and global growth)... and repeat. Ad infinitum, this would lead to Oilmageddon, a 'significant and synchronized' global recession and a proper modern-day equity bear market."

Read more: http://us.finance.qa1p.global.media.yahoo.com/news/citi-world-economy-trapped-death-160555632.html

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Citi: World economy trapped in ‘death spiral’ (Original Post) LiberalArkie Feb 2016 OP
That's some scary shit navarth Feb 2016 #1
I'd get it paid off ASAP if I were you. roamer65 Feb 2016 #16
Thanks, no worries navarth Feb 2016 #20
Hopefully, it will also, finally, lead to "post-Capitalism," so the 1%ers can't keep fucking with villager Feb 2016 #2
Yes sir. navarth Feb 2016 #21
so it's time to move to cash? 6chars Feb 2016 #3
They ALL are...n/t Moostache Feb 2016 #4
That's the end game of capitalism, when money gets concentrated into as few hands as possible Warpy Feb 2016 #5
When does the pitchforks, torches and guillotines phase occur? Is it before, during or after reset? xocet Feb 2016 #10
During. Austerity so far has been mild Warpy Feb 2016 #11
So it's time to perk up the world with investments in green energy! randome Feb 2016 #6
Quite right, but elleng Feb 2016 #8
There is another candidate who is promoting green energy Art_from_Ark Feb 2016 #22
yes, yes and they will never be able to buy the sun and wind wordpix Feb 2016 #9
But they can do this PersonNumber503602 Feb 2016 #18
Place your bets folks------------------------------- turbinetree Feb 2016 #7
Bright side, mahina Feb 2016 #12
I wouldn't trust one word from this bankster group wordpix Feb 2016 #13
Meh. Oneironaut Feb 2016 #14
Why are "cheap fuel and commodities" supposed to be bad for economic growth? phantom power Feb 2016 #15
Because it is symptom of demand destruction. roamer65 Feb 2016 #17
Capitalism, as we have come to know it, is failing daleo Feb 2016 #19
+1 inanna Feb 2016 #23

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
16. I'd get it paid off ASAP if I were you.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 03:59 PM
Feb 2016

I remember my dad quoting what my grandfather said about the GD. Those who had most of their mortgages and loans paid off were foreclosed first. The banks could make money off the sale of their properties. Those who were deeper in debt were often renegotiated or given easier terms because the banks could not make money off the foreclosure. My grandfather was a local county official so he undoubtedly saw the paperwork.

 

villager

(26,001 posts)
2. Hopefully, it will also, finally, lead to "post-Capitalism," so the 1%ers can't keep fucking with
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:10 PM
Feb 2016

...the rest of the planet like this.

6chars

(3,967 posts)
3. so it's time to move to cash?
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:16 PM
Feb 2016

and buy up the world at fire sale prices.

wonder if any hedge funds are thinking this. ...

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
5. That's the end game of capitalism, when money gets concentrated into as few hands as possible
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:39 PM
Feb 2016

and monopolies are created while the demand side of the equation has dried up because people are maxed out on debt and are being paid inadequate wages to continue anything but servicing that debt and bare subsistence.

And the 0.1% act surprised. Why, they deserve that money! They worked for it! Well, being brought up by nannies is work, isn't it?

Next comes total collapse in which all but a few fortunes are wiped out, temporary reforms are enacted, and the game begins again.

xocet

(3,871 posts)
10. When does the pitchforks, torches and guillotines phase occur? Is it before, during or after reset?
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:03 PM
Feb 2016

n/t

Warpy

(111,261 posts)
11. During. Austerity so far has been mild
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:13 PM
Feb 2016

After the collapse, they actually try to starve us, a bad idea since nothing makes people crazier than hunger.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
6. So it's time to perk up the world with investments in green energy!
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:41 PM
Feb 2016

Plenty of economic activity there to sustain us for several decades.
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turbinetree

(24,701 posts)
7. Place your bets folks-------------------------------
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 04:53 PM
Feb 2016






Honk--------------------for a political revolution Bernie 2016


wordpix

(18,652 posts)
13. I wouldn't trust one word from this bankster group
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 09:51 AM
Feb 2016

They're out to make money off YOU, period.

"Oilmaggedon," my ass. Obama is right---put a tax on each barrel of oil NOW, while it's cheap, and fund the new clean energy economy.

Oneironaut

(5,495 posts)
14. Meh.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:02 AM
Feb 2016

We've been told that the sky is falling every week by a new clickbait article. If the internet were even close to accurate, we'd all be dead by now.

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
15. Why are "cheap fuel and commodities" supposed to be bad for economic growth?
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 11:31 AM
Feb 2016

Personally, I think fuel and other commodities *should* be expensive, to properly price in externalities. But I don't really get why it should be bad for the world economy if the fuel and commodities that businesses and consumers all use get cheaper.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
17. Because it is symptom of demand destruction.
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 04:05 PM
Feb 2016

The velocity of money figures are still slowing, which means demand destruction is not letting up. Lower demand equals lower economic activity.

All the QE and easy money is not stopping the deflationary spiral.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
19. Capitalism, as we have come to know it, is failing
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 10:00 PM
Feb 2016

But failure can be slow, then all at once. Hard to say where we are right now.

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