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magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:52 PM Feb 2016

Iowa margin between Clinton, Sanders shifts as errors found

Source: DesMoines Register

Party Chairwoman Andy McGuire the day after Monday's caucuses said no review would be conducted, and that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s narrow victory over Bernie Sanders is final.

But as errors are being discovered, the final tally is being changed, party officials confirmed to The Des Moines Register Friday morning.

"Both the Sanders and Clinton campaigns have flagged a very small number of concerns for us, and we are looking at them all on a case-by-case basis," Iowa Democratic Party spokesman Sam Lau told the Register.

Read more: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/02/05/iowa-margin-between-clinton-sanders-shifts-errors/79877898/



They cite one error being corrected in the article, in Grinnell precinct. Original tally had been Clinton 8; Sanders 18. Corrected tally is Clinton 7; Sanders 19.

It was due to a math error, which was something I wondered about in the video where caucus goers who were not present were counted. They were doing the math manually there; not even an effing calculator!
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Iowa margin between Clinton, Sanders shifts as errors found (Original Post) magical thyme Feb 2016 OP
What did they do... zentrum Feb 2016 #1
math errors magical thyme Feb 2016 #4
It's not known. The precinct reported 19-7, the IA party set it to 18-8. (nt) jeff47 Feb 2016 #32
Not manually dlwickham Feb 2016 #2
that was at one precinct, on video. can't speak for the rest magical thyme Feb 2016 #5
If this process happened in just a few places (not caught on camera) and it wouldn't take many Dragonfli Feb 2016 #8
Let's not use that ugly word "cheating" Jack Rabbit Feb 2016 #17
Exactly who I'd contribute the quote "The tally is FINAL!!!11" to if I had to guess. AtomicKitten Feb 2016 #21
I'm glad you're so matter of fact about Hillary's gang cheating nichomachus Feb 2016 #19
there was no cheating dlwickham Feb 2016 #29
And this is how the stats of the country would go because of BIASED agendas and Single celled desire orpupilofnature57 Feb 2016 #3
single cell desire oldandhappy Feb 2016 #6
"They were doing the math manually there" - it is important to note that the math was complicated PoliticAverse Feb 2016 #7
Pretty good reason to support Bernie's plans for education it seems. NorthCarolina Feb 2016 #11
And his plan to help with college debt. My granddaughters owe $25,000 each! Duval Feb 2016 #13
I'm think more all the time that Sanders won outright. earthside Feb 2016 #9
He probably did and McGuire is covering it up. in_cog_ni_to Feb 2016 #24
Did Hillary steal the election? OnlinePoker Feb 2016 #10
Another question is "will she"? Duval Feb 2016 #14
If she can... SammyWinstonJack Feb 2016 #23
..+1 840high Feb 2016 #15
Well the similarity to Florida is nichomachus Feb 2016 #20
in fairness, they reported irregularities too magical thyme Feb 2016 #30
Bet she doesn't renew with another Hillary plate next year. Dustlawyer Feb 2016 #12
The IDP looks bad in all this creatives4innovation Feb 2016 #16
President Clinton said it best: forest444 Feb 2016 #18
Interesting blackspade Feb 2016 #22
Thx 4 sharing. Love ur use of "effing" b/c I use it and my dae Feb 2016 #25
Cut it out!! nt grasswire Feb 2016 #26
Ask not for whom the votes are counted... Ford_Prefect Feb 2016 #27
Sheesh...all I personally want is accuracy and honesty. SoapBox Feb 2016 #28
K&R CharlotteVale Feb 2016 #31
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
5. that was at one precinct, on video. can't speak for the rest
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:56 PM
Feb 2016

but the video is out there for all to see.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
8. If this process happened in just a few places (not caught on camera) and it wouldn't take many
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:06 PM
Feb 2016

Then Hilary won by cheating...errr I mean poor math skills on the part of her buds back at the offices where these things are flipped.

No wonder Ms HRC 2016 vanity license plate put such a lid on transparency, there are things that if revealed might change the winner of a primary. If the errors recovered revealed Hill won more delegates you know damn well we'd have transparency up the ass.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
17. Let's not use that ugly word "cheating"
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:36 PM
Feb 2016

Let's just say they might have learned to count in the same place Katherine Harris did.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
21. Exactly who I'd contribute the quote "The tally is FINAL!!!11" to if I had to guess.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:48 PM
Feb 2016

This does not surprise me in the least. Like Bernie said, the end result will be a couple of delegates either way, but it's like Hillary stole the bragging rights even if it is corrected later. The video of one of Hillary's caucus leaders lying about the count is proof positive shenanigans (h/t Hillary) were afoot.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
19. I'm glad you're so matter of fact about Hillary's gang cheating
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:38 PM
Feb 2016

But I suppose we should be used to her dirty dealing by now.

 

orpupilofnature57

(15,472 posts)
3. And this is how the stats of the country would go because of BIASED agendas and Single celled desire
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 06:55 PM
Feb 2016

to Win, with the truth being just part of the cost .

 

Duval

(4,280 posts)
13. And his plan to help with college debt. My granddaughters owe $25,000 each!
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:15 PM
Feb 2016

It's outrageous, and we can help only a little now and then.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
9. I'm think more all the time that Sanders won outright.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:07 PM
Feb 2016

As the Des Moines Register said ... something "smells" in Iowa.

I wonder if it is demonstrated that Bernie won by a couple tenths of a percent if the Hillarians will talk about a win being a win ... or will they then want to settle for a tie?



in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
24. He probably did and McGuire is covering it up.
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 09:03 PM
Feb 2016

HRH's campaign is corrupt to the core. She knew she couldn't win there...internal polls told them that, so lie, cheat and steal to get there. And, of course, have your lackey in the Iowa Democratic leadership in place to ensure the thievery is never discovered.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

OnlinePoker

(5,719 posts)
10. Did Hillary steal the election?
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

Might not have been on purpose like Bush in Florida in 2000, but the party machine is sure covering its ass on this.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
20. Well the similarity to Florida is
Fri Feb 5, 2016, 08:40 PM
Feb 2016

That Hillary and her gang don't want to see a correct count. That.'s what smells

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
30. in fairness, they reported irregularities too
Sat Feb 6, 2016, 08:24 AM
Feb 2016

time will tell how much the delegate count changes. the change above equaled less than 1/10, making less than a 2/10's difference. but maybe larger "irregularities" will turn up...

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