Donald Trump: I'd bring back 'a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding'

[inanna]

Source: The Guardian

Sunday 7 February 2016 03.09 GMT

Donald Trump said he would “bring back a hell of a lot worse than waterboarding”, or simulated drowning, at the Republican debate in Manchester, New Hampshire, on Saturday.

His Republican rival Ted Cruz, asked whether the practice notoriously used under the Bush administration during the war on terror was torture, denied it was: “Under the definition of torture, no it’s not. It is enhanced interrogation ... It does not meet the generally recognized definition of torture.”

But the Texas senator added: “I would not bring it back in any sort of widespread use. And indeed I’d join with Senator [John] McCain in prohibiting line officers from employing it.”

Former Florida governor Jeb Bush – brother of former president George W Bush under whom waterboarding was used by the CIA – said: “It was used sparingly, Congress has changed the laws and I think where we stand is the appropriate place.”

Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/feb/06/donald-trump-waterboarding-republican-debate-torture

[katmondoo]

1. There is alot of sickness in this group

So this is what will make America great again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[roguevalley]

30. we hanged Japanese soldiers after WWII for using waterboarding

and the like on our soldiers. Nothing like evil showing its oily face.

[atreides1]

31. Unfortunately

That sickness can be found in this country, and among those who would vote for these "men"!

And if Ted Cruz doesn't believe that water boarding is torture, then perhaps he wouldn't mind if his father underwent the procedure?

[OhZone]

2. Great! Promises to be a war criminal! n/t

[HassleCat]

17. We hid this when posted previously

Yes, know it's funny, but it's too gross and juvenile. Please delete. Thanks.

[Marty McGraw]

26. you are right.

I had some hesitation posting but my twitch finger decided elsewise.

Done!

[trillion]

20. I have to agree with it.

[bearssoapbox]

4. This is the first complete reTHUGliCON debate that I've listened to.

It was worth it to hear trChump get booed several times and at the intro how quickly it got completely quiet so fast when he was introduced.

But it was sickening to hear how, whether by plan or not, how stupid and violent they are and how open they are about it.

Except for carson and he's so wishy-washy and quiet he was hardly heard and still came across as a very low information candidate.

They also re-enforced that not a single one of them should even lead or be in charge of anything at all.

[trillion]

21. +10000

And unlike me, you did make it though the debate. I gawked for a minute and turned it off.

[Wibly]

9. Already waterboarded

Waterboarding does one thing. It gets your victim to tell you what you want to hear.
Waterboarding these idiots would only result in a reiteration of the crap they are already talking.

[ornotna]

13. What they're saying

ain't what I want to hear. But you were right, it is crap.

[kas125]

11. We executed people for doing it. Who are you to accuse someone of wanting to do it?

What a disgusting post! Everyone and anyone who had anything to do with waterboarding, or any other form of torture, belongs in prison. Period.

[Mira]

12. Instead of alerting on your callous words

I would like for you to look into the mirror and realize what you just said. It is criminal to harm a person that way, physically, emotionally and spiritually. Anyone. Even them
And it is a coward's way out to just hurt someone instead of finding any other way to combat them.
You watched every one of them in essence dig their own grave today, they were all awful, but to talk about torturing them is ridiculously harsh and not funny. Besides, in the ones we tortured in Abu Graib (I forgot how to spell it) we got nothing but broken or dead humans, no valuable information.
We already got the no valuable information happening on that stage, no need to hurt them, they are doing it to themselves anyway.

If I'm over-reacting to your post, I apologize.
We all have our histories, and I grew up a small train ride away from Dachau and torture is a sore subject to my psyche.

[Mira]

6. With conviction and tremendous sadness

I maintain that if we had investigated the war criminals of our previous administration, and had given serious attention to their despicable acts and not just blindly "looked forward instead of backward" this comment would never have happened. The culprits would at least have been unmasked and labeled, and probably jailed with the result of our having a country where nobody could possibly feel free to say such a thing. Not even the Donald in his off-handed throwaway manner.

It would be worse than talking about killing someone in the street and not losing a supporter. It would be akin to feeling free he could commit war crimes off the bat. And therefore he would be a self confessed criminal before even being elected.
By letting our historic crimes stand unchallenged, we allow such treasonous comments to happen, and we all should be disgusted to our cores.
I know I am.

[xocet]

7. Hear, hear! n/t

[Wibly]

8. Gone Rogue

Duh, if you make me President I'll not only make America a rogue nation, I'll make myself into an international war criminal as well! - D. Trump (Cruz and Rubio too I think)

[Bernin]

15. I watched some of this debate.

It was like being water boarded.

[blackspade]

16. Sick fucks

Thanks for endorsing war crimes and putting our citizens abroad in danger. Assholes.

[uhnope]

18. I think Trump's finally going down. He was booed at the debate

He came in second in Iowa, which equals loser. He looks much less confident, and looked like a bully & a goad dick which brought the boos tonight. I think, finally, it's going away

[trillion]

23. Okay, that's it. I want to watch just to see him get booed.

Wonder if there is anyone who only recorded that part! The rest I don't think I could handle - the stupidity and sociopathy.

[uhnope]

25. I watch them all. This was the least stupid so far.

almost resembled an actual debate at times. Good luck, Trump boos was in the middle somewhere

[Renew Deal]

33. He's been booed at previous debate

The audience is packed with Bush shills

[olddad56]

19. Finally, the fascists have a candidate they can believe in.

[trillion]

22. Actually a whole lot of them...

sadly.

[davidpdx]

24. Any candidate who advocates for waterboarding should be willing to step up and have it done to them

[kentauros]

29. Yes, they should step up and ask for that.

But we should do a bait and switch on them, and put them in a sensory deprivation tank and a head full of ayahuasca ala Altered States

Who knows? They might actually have their minds opened and a change of hearts

[Feeling the Bern]

27. How long before enhanced interrogation, as Turd Cruz calls it, is used on Americans then?

After all, criminals aren't people in most American's eyes.

[JimDandy]

32. Trump will say and do nearly anything to be relevant. n/t

[Vinca]

34. I propose one more televised session with these candidates: a waterboarding session.

Let's see if the gigantic balls they claim to have actually exist in reality. This is worse than armchair warriors. They're armchair torturers.

[mdbl]

38. I second that motion

[tanyev]

35. "I'll have all my speeches put on a non-stop audio loop."

[Solly Mack]

36. Yeah, well, it's not as if they'd go to jail for it. So, it's easy to say and -

obviously, easy to get away with.

Sure, it's an outrageously sick thing to say. (That you would torture) And, obviously, (again) such a person should never be president.

But it's far more outrageously sick that those who are guilty of torture (Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld, etc..) got away with it.

[Gregorian]

37. Vote for me and we'll bring back Circus Maximus.

[meow2u3]

42. The repuke "debates" ARE Circus Maximus

I lie...they're merely a circus.

[Bad Dog]

39. Paddy Ashdown was waterboared as part of his SBS training.

He says it's torture. Even the Spanish Inquisition who used it regarded it as torture.

[lark]

40. They are all liars and law breakers and would blur the line between us and the terrorists.

Waterboarding is torture and people have been convicted of it in the past. Just because some partisan lawyer tries to muddy the water and say it's not what it is, doesn't mean he's telling the truth. Woo just provided the fig leaf Bush requested and lied for his boss. Repugs have no morals or ethical values, it's always about what's expedient for me, right now. Trump has disqualified himself in so very many ways and this just adds to the pile of poo.

[Zambero]

41. A Trump 24/7 endless video loop?

I'm fantastic
You're a loser
I'm fantastic
You're a loser
I'm fantastic
You're a loser
I'm fantastic
You're a loser
I'm fantastic
You're a loser
I'm fantastic
You're a loser
I'm fantastic
You're a loser
I'm fantastic
You're a loser
etc etc etc etc ad finitum....

Subjecting someone to this would certainly constitute cruel and inhumane punishment

[trillion]

46. And especially because he's got in backwards.

Only losers act like he does.

[47of74]

43. Under Der Trumpenführer we would become the very evil we fought against in WW II.

[EndElectoral]

44. I guess the rack and crucifixion is still available.

[Hekate]

45. Sick sick sick. A disgrace to America, an embarrassment to us all.

Gods help us.