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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 10:40 PM Apr 2016

Icelandic PM walks out of interview over Panama Papers allegations

Source: 9 News Australia

The Icelandic prime minister stormed out of an interview after being questioned over his involvement in a tax evasion scheme said to implicate many of the world's richest and most powerful people.

When asked about a company now owned by his wife, PM Sigmundur Gunnlaugsson shifted uncomfortably in his seat, stuttering several excuses, before walking out of the interview.

"What are you trying to make up here?" Gunnlaugsson asks the Swedish journalist, when questioned about his ownership of offshore shell company, Wintris.

"This is totally inappropriate."

The leaked documents known as the Panama Papers reveal that in 2007 Gunnlaugsson and his wife, Anna Sigurlaug Pálsdóttir acquired Wintris through one of Iceland's three major banks, Landsbanki and used it as a shell company to invest funds.

Read more: http://www.9news.com.au/world/2016/04/04/07/50/icelandic-pm-walks-out-of-interview-over-panama-papers-allegations



Note: 5th paragraph added

Related: The Panama Papers - Massive leak reveals offshore accounts of world leaders
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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
6. The Social Dems merged with the Greens and are now headed by Árni Páll Árnason
Sun Apr 3, 2016, 11:48 PM
Apr 2016

Jóhanna* wound up very unpopular after the housing market collapsed when they defaulted to the international banks (the foreclosure rate is something like 10%, and the household debt levels have skyrocketed; people love cheering them for what they did but the people wound up getting screwed in a lot of ways in the process). Also she banned strip clubs, which wasn't very popular.

The left coalition could return to power if this leads to a fall of the government, or the right could just elect a new PM.

* Sigurðardóttir is not her "last name" in the normal western sense so the proper way to refer to her is "Jóhanna"

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
7. Thank you
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 12:13 AM
Apr 2016

I am aware of Skandanavian naming conventions. Use of the first name is "formal".

If Sigmundur reigns as PM, will new elections be needed of will a new PM simply take over?

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
9. Iceland follows traditional Scandinavian name
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 01:08 AM
Apr 2016

Johanna Siguardottir means Johanna daughter of Sigur. Arni Pall Aranson means Arni Pall son of Aran. Sigur would have been the son of someone. Aran would have been the son of someone.

In Iceland your given name is followed by your father's name followed by the word "son" if you are that person's son, or dottir if you are that person's daughter.

This was the rule in Scandinavian Countrys, including England pre 1066, till the other Scandinavian countries decided to force people to have proper last names in the Latin tradition. All did it while before the black death in the 1300s.

Thus Leaf Ericson, the Viking that landed in North America around 1000 AD was Leaf the son the Eric. Eric the Red, as he is known to history, had discovered Greenland. I bring this up to show another example of such a naming system.

The Arabs use a similar system. Hussain Saddam, meant Hussain son of Saddam. Watching the House of Saud you see this naming system in operation. Bin meaning son of, with bint meaning daughter of. Osama bin Laden meant Osama son of Laden.

it appears the Arabs of Iraq do not use the term bin on bint, but the people of Arabia do. Please note this may be the product of western reporting, I.e. Reporters reporting from Iraq may just not use the term bin or bint, while it is practice to use bin and bint if reporting on Arabia. On the other hand the terms bin and bint may be understood in Iraq and just not writren down.

The Chinese comes the closest to western naming tradition, but the start with their family name first then their given name, which is opposite of Western/Latin naming system.

Native Americans naming system varied by tribe, but most tribes considered it dangerous for your enemies to know your real name, so it was kept secret to all but close family members. Outside of the family, you were called by a nickname, which could change as you age or your position in the tribe changed. Thus a young boy may be called "Mischievous child" then "brave boy" then "Bear killer" then in his old age "Wise leader". As the first Americans came more and more in contact with white society this habit of changing one's name became less and less common, for it confused the whites. Since the late 1800s changing nicknames seems to have stopped, and such nick names are even put on birth certificates, while the person's "real name" remains a secret known only to the person's family. Thus from a US legal point of view the Nickname is the First American's "real name" even if that name is NOT that person's real name by tribal rules. Again this varies by tribe.

Just pointing out naming traditions do not always follow the Latin Tradition of given name, middle name followed by family name.

In actual Roman times, the middle name was the branch of the family you were from. Thus in Gaius Julius Caesar, Gaius was the given name, and Julius was the branch of the Caesar family he was from. The given name was generally dropped for under Roman Law you remained under the control of the eldest male member in your line of birth till that man died. This was true even if you were 50 years of age or older. Thus the given name generally was not important, for if you were the eldest male in your line, you were in charge of all of your children, their children and even those children's children etc. Julius Caesar had no legitimate male sons, thus he named his nephew Octavian Julius Caesar his heir and adopted sons (this removed Octavian from his own father's line to the line of Gaius Julius Caesar and given Gaius Julius Caesar's death, Octavian was head of that branch of the Caesar family).

This method of naming remained the standard in Rome till the 500s when names reverted to given name and family name for some reason unknown today but tied in with the lost of Italy to the Goths. This two names only system remain the standard even after Italy was retaken ln the 600s. This remained the standard for most people till 1800s when you start to see people, outside of royalty, using three names instead of two. Appears to come out of to many people with the same first and last names. Royalty would give their children several names, based on family relationships, but that naming system has no relevancy today. I bring up the Latin naming system snd its use of three names then two names then the reintroduction of three names to show even the Latin System has changed over the years, but it is still the dominate system in the west today.

Please note the Spainish system has a slight difference from the Latin System. In the Arab naming system it is given name then your father's name, then your Mother's name, with the Mother's name being the first name dropped (and in most cases never used). The Spainish naming system follows this tradition but the Mother's name is frequently used unlike the Arab System were the Mother's name is rarely used.

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
14. After reviewing my statement I should make a change.
Tue Apr 5, 2016, 02:43 AM
Apr 2016

The dropping of middle names by the Latin West may be related to the Catholic church forbidding cousins from marrying. Outside of Europe, Russia, North and South America and other places with strong "Christian" traditions, people still tend to marry their cousins.

The Catholic Church adopted the rule against marrying cousins to break up the Roman elite where such wealth had become concentrated by 500 AD (this had been the problem with Rome since the end of the Second Punic War in 202 BC, but no one addressed it till the Empire started to fall apart after 450AD. One of the reasons to address the problem was when barbarian invaders invade Rome, they would be joined by poor Romans against the rich Romans. Thus class war occurred for the Roman Army had been strong enough to put down any peasant revolt till the 400s, but once that army was gone, class warfare broke out with the barbarians being used to put down peasant revolts and being paid in land to do so. The problem was the barbarians had more in common with the Roman Poor then the Roman elites so as you moved from.the 400s into the 500s, the barbarians took over more and more of the land to give to themselves and the Roman poor.

The area of the Roman Empire where you had the least concentration of wealth, was modern Greece and Turkey, and it was the part of the Empire that survived. The rest of the Empire the poor made accommodations with the barbarians generally through the Church (and that included deals with the Moslem Arabs during and after the Arab conquest).

Thus the dropping of the middle name by speakers of Latin seems to be tied in with the economic changes do to the Roman Poor, outside of modern Greece and Turkey, preferring barbarian rule over Roman Rule. The surviving Roman Elite had to deal with this social structure. They were NOT to successful. No family in Europe can trace itself back, in the male line, to before 900 AD. Given how paternalistic Ancient Rome was, that shows you how unsuccessful those Roman elites were.

Poor Romans survived and became the people of present day Western Europe, but the upper class did not except in the female line and that is do to some woman marrying a barbarian to keep some of her family's wealth.

Thus same pressure to spread out the wealth to end the concentration of wealth in just a few families was also the reason the Catholic Church embraced the ban on marrying cousins. With Cousins no longer marrying, the reason to keep using the branch name of the of the family name disappeared and with it the use of middle names till revived in the 1800s (when more then one historian making the comment that to many people were reading to much Roman history and coming up with all types of reasons for the fall of Rome except for the super concentration of wealth for the 1800s saw a return to the tendency for such concentration, as had been the 1700s and 1700s ended with the French Revolution, in the 1800s you had the revolution if 1848 and then 1917, all the product of to much concentration of wealth).

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
11. The Guardian: Iceland’s PM faces calls for snap election after offshore revelations
Mon Apr 4, 2016, 03:40 AM
Apr 2016

From The Guardian (UK)
Dated Sunday, April 3


http://www.theguardian.com/news/2016/apr/03/iceland-pm-calls-snap-election-offshore-revelations|Iceland’s PM faces calls for snap election after offshore revelations
By Simon Bowers


Iceland’s prime minister is this week expected to face calls in parliament for a snap election after the Panama Papers revealed he is among several leading politicians around the world with links to secretive companies in offshore tax havens.

The financial affairs of Sigmundur Davíð Gunnlaugsson and his wife have come under scrutiny because of details revealed in documents from a Panamanian law firm that helps clients protect their wealth in secretive offshore tax regimes. The files from Mossack Fonseca form the biggest ever data leak to journalists.

Opposition leaders have this weekend been discussing a motion calling for a general election – in effect a confidence vote in the prime minister.

On Monday, Gunnlaugsson is expected to face allegations from opponents that he has hidden a major financial conflict of interest from voters ever since he was elected an MP seven years ago.


Read ore at the link.
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