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Galraedia

(5,026 posts)
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:43 PM Jun 2012

House GOP Blocking Abortion Access for Raped Soldiers

Source: Mother Jones

Republican Senators John McCain, Scott Brown, and Susan Collins all support an effort by Sen. Jeanne Shaheen, a Democrat from New Hampshire, to expand abortion access for military women who are raped. But despite bipartisan support in the Senate, Shaheen's proposal may not make it into the final version of the 2013 defense authorization bill—because House Republicans oppose it.

If Shaheen's measure passes, military families will finally have the same access to abortion that other federal employees already receive. Unlike the rest of the federal government, the Department of Defense currently only provides abortion coverage if the life of the mother is at stake. Under current law, if a State Department employee is raped, her government health insurance plan will pay for an abortion if she wants one. But if an Army medic serving in Afghanistan is raped and becomes pregnant, she can't use her military health plan to pay for an abortion. If she does decide to get an abortion, she will have to pay for it with her own money. And if she can't prove she was raped—which is difficult before an investigation is completed—she may have to look for services off base, which can be dangerous or impossible in many parts of the world.

"We have more than 200,000 women serving on active duty in our military," Shaheen tells Mother Jones. "They should have the same rights to affordable reproductive health services as all of the civilians who they protect."

In late May, the Senate Armed Services Committee approved Shaheen's amendment, attaching it to the 2013 National Defense Authorization Act. McCain, the committee's top Republican, voted in favor, as did Brown and Collins. Shaheen is "hopeful" her proposal has enough support to be included in the final bill. The NDAA still needs a vote on the Senate floor. But for Shaheen's amendment, there's a bigger problem: the Republican-controlled House.

Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/06/shaheen-amendment-military-rape-abortion

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House GOP Blocking Abortion Access for Raped Soldiers (Original Post) Galraedia Jun 2012 OP
Anything I have to say will be rude. PDJane Jun 2012 #1
As I've said before atreides1 Jun 2012 #2
+1,000 freshwest Jun 2012 #3
Do these guys Cherchez la Femme Jun 2012 #4
Well, ya know, them wimmins aren't real soldiers sarge43 Jun 2012 #9
LOL True Cherchez la Femme Jun 2012 #12
There were many long before Tail Hook. sarge43 Jun 2012 #14
Thanks for the info Cherchez la Femme Jun 2012 #15
My impression: The official party line is ambivalent, especially after the draft became history. sarge43 Jun 2012 #16
Good insight, Sarge pinboy3niner Jun 2012 #19
Thank you pinboy sarge43 Jun 2012 #20
Luke 6:31 (new international version) Iliyah Jun 2012 #5
Did you know that this issue has been kicking around the Pentagon since at least the eighties? MADem Jun 2012 #6
This from the party that does not think government has the right to tell you what you can or cannot jillan Jun 2012 #7
Only if you're jaded_old_cynic Jun 2012 #8
And the military/veteran vote goes to repukes because . . . madashelltoo Jun 2012 #10
Supporting the MIC is the opposite of supporting the troops FiveGoodMen Jun 2012 #11
does the military vote 'really' go to repukes? chknltl Jun 2012 #13
I have no words. Odin2005 Jun 2012 #17
Ditto , I have no word but goclark Jun 2012 #18

atreides1

(16,082 posts)
2. As I've said before
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 12:46 PM
Jun 2012

The Republicans are the pro-rape, pro-incest party...and some would even let a woman die...talk about your "Death Panel".

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
9. Well, ya know, them wimmins aren't real soldiers
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 02:32 PM
Jun 2012

Er, well, they are, but they shouldna be.

Ah, well, they was askin' for it and gotta be punished.

just in case

Cherchez la Femme

(2,488 posts)
12. LOL True
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:08 PM
Jun 2012

I even remember as a kid reading about the Sky Hook Scandal, which I believe was the first scandal involving wimmens in the military (other than the ancient, common belief that the only reason females joined the military was to find a husband).

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
14. There were many long before Tail Hook.
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 06:32 PM
Jun 2012

With a couple of exceptions they didn't make it past the base gates.

Classic from WWII: WAC unit in Tripoli Libya, several hundred women. Got into the press that many of them were pregnant, returned stateside and discharged. Within a couple of months all over the news media that just about every woman in that unit was in the family way. Goes to show service women were sluts - wink, wink, nudge, nudge. Was so bad it was beginning to affect enlistment.

A congresswoman's crap detector went red line and she got in the War Dept's face. Insisted the true number of pregnancies be made public. Some believe Mrs Roosevelt put in her two cents. Turned out - wait for it - two, that's two, women had been discharged for pregnancy. One was - wait for it again - was married and her husband had given her a going away pressie.

Then, as well as now, sex sells and the media took the bs of a few disgruntled GIs and turned it into a faux scandal.

Cherchez la Femme

(2,488 posts)
15. Thanks for the info
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 06:43 PM
Jun 2012

I don't mean to be argumentative but have a real question/observation:
"more than "a few disgruntled GIs",
isn't that pretty much (unless push comes to shove) the official line the Armed Forces/Pentagon has always taken?

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
16. My impression: The official party line is ambivalent, especially after the draft became history.
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 07:30 PM
Jun 2012

On one hand, DoD has to rely on women to keep the manning rosters reasonably filled. They're guaranteed to sign up. Except for that short period during WWII when that faux scandal was news, there has always been more women volunteers than slots available.

On the other, there's the "girls in our tree house" mentality and women warriors, even quasi, take away an ancient justification for men to be warriors - protection.

No doubt much more to it than that, but those are the ones in one form or another I kept hearing during my long march.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
19. Good insight, Sarge
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 06:22 AM
Jun 2012

And the "girls in our tree house" line is priceless (and accurate).

This old male VN Army vet is glad you're here to weigh in on this important issue.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
20. Thank you pinboy
Thu Jun 14, 2012, 08:46 AM
Jun 2012

VN era here, backatcha

Well, as you know, in spite of what Them What Be In Charge would like to think, paygrade and IQ aren't necessarily the same thing. Also, I manned the paper pump. I knew what was really going down rather than what TWBIC bs'd to the civilians.

"Sergeant, you're a cynic."

"Actually sir, I try to be a realist in a cynical situation."

(Took him a couple of beats to process that.)

Getting back on point, abortion (within the guidelines of RvW) should be available on request for all service women. Their reasons are none of Uncle Sugar's business. It's a legal medical procedure. Further, denying it is a potential waste of resources. If she has the child and can't secure foster care for it, she's discharged. On the other, that may be the actual reason - one less icky girl in the tree house.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Luke 6:31 (new international version)
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:07 PM
Jun 2012

"Do to others as you would have them do to you"

How "Christain" of them. NOT

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. Did you know that this issue has been kicking around the Pentagon since at least the eighties?
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:08 PM
Jun 2012

Most of the senior uniformed leadership over the years has agreed that it's past time--at least privately. It has been included in the annual offering to the Hill every damn year, and every damn year it has been shot down. We'll see.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
7. This from the party that does not think government has the right to tell you what you can or cannot
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:11 PM
Jun 2012

do.

jaded_old_cynic

(190 posts)
8. Only if you're
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jun 2012

Only if you're a white, heterosexual male should government stay out of your life. Anybody else, all bets are off. Sad, but that's how these neanderthals think.

madashelltoo

(1,698 posts)
10. And the military/veteran vote goes to repukes because . . .
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 02:41 PM
Jun 2012

I'm lost here. They abandon you when you're wounded, your house is in foreclosure and if you're raped. Tell me again how the repukes support the military.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
11. Supporting the MIC is the opposite of supporting the troops
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 02:45 PM
Jun 2012

If Americans could get that through their thick skulls...

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
13. does the military vote 'really' go to repukes?
Wed Jun 13, 2012, 03:31 PM
Jun 2012

No, I have nothing further to add but, considering how they rig elections through election fraud I am left wondering if they are rigging the military vote too. Hmmm...I wonder if Bradblog has anything on this topic....
on edit: I sent an e-mail to Brad Friedman just now regarding the topic of election fraud being perpetrated against our boys and girls in the military. Not sure he will get it but we can only hope.

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