Liberty University to allow handguns in dorms next fall

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press

Liberty University to allow handguns in dorms next fall

Updated 10:44 am, Wednesday, April 27, 2016

LYNCHBURG, Va. (AP) — Liberty University will allow students with concealed handgun permits from the state to keep their weapons in their dorms beginning next fall.

The News & Advance reports (http://bit.ly/1VB2IdP) those students would need permission from the school first. The guns would be kept in safes inside the residence halls at the private Christian university.

The policy change was given the go-ahead by the university's board of trustees last week.

University President Jerry Falwell Jr. announced last year that eligible students could carry guns anywhere on campus. Previously, students who qualified could carry guns anywhere except residence halls.



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[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. That should work out nicely.

Sexually repressed teenagers all living together full of Jesus and guns....

[LS_Editor]

2. Brilliant.

[scscholar]

3. Expect rivers of blood in the dorm hallways

sigh. I'm so sad for those poor students. Of course, they shouldn't have gone to such a place, but that doesn't mean they deserve to die.

[alp227]

13. Over the top.

I personally would never want to work or live in a gun heavy place, but as long as said place is regulating gun possession, what's the harm, if there's a standard of responsibility to be met to keep guns?

[sofa king]

19. The standard of responsibility is in God's hands at Liberty.

[Nye Bevan]

4. Students, beer, and guns.

What could possibly go wrong?

[LynneSin]

12. Liberty University is a dry campus. I believe one can be expelled for drinking

https://www.liberty.edu/media/1210/Student_Honor_Code.pdf

Substance Use
Liberty University prohibits the possession, use, manufacture or distribution of alcoholic
beverages, tobacco and illegal drugs or controlled substances by its students. This includes
the abuse of prescription medications or possession of prescription medications not prescribed to the student
.
Violations of this prohibition may result in disciplinary action, including administrative withdrawal. In addition, possession, use, manufacture and/or distribution of
illegal substances is a crime and Liberty University will cooperate with law enforcement
authorities who are charged with enforcing the law.

Most of these hardcore religious colleges not only do not allow these things on campus, they also do not permit their students to use these things even off campus. I did a tour of Messiah College, which is in Central PA. It was near my home and I had a distant relative attending so I figured 'why not'. The student laws were pretty strict about these things. I'm not any kind of drunk and to this day I still haven't done any drugs illegally (never even touched marijuana). But I just thought it was too strict so I scratched that school off my list.

[2naSalit]

16. Might be the rules

but that doesn't mean they are always obeyed. We're talking college students here. We have religious colleges here and the students still get busted for all kinds of stuff the nonreligious get caught for. In fact, porn is the biggest problem along with sex abuse, I can imagine guns really helping that scene out.

for the University.

[LynneSin]

23. You are talking kids in an uber religious university

These aren't normal kids.

[2naSalit]

25. and I'm comparing them to

uber religious mormons... who are as fond of their gunz as any gungeoneer. I don't think it's a good idea at any educational institution no matter how religious or liberal and no mater what age level of the student body. At least that was my point.

[KamaAina]

5. Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

[TheCowsCameHome]

6. Why not? They prohibit student sex.

And kids have to have something to fiddle with.

At least this way no one gets knocked up.

[2naSalit]

17. unless used in

forcing compliance of rape victims.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

31. Off

Knocked off, not up.

[ReRe]

7. Gawd...

We are truly living in The Twilight Zone, Judi Lynn. One of these days I'm going to wonder if I'm crazy, which I might be. But what I think it will come to is the fact that everything around me is crazy.
This society is not going to resemble the one I was born and raised up in.

[Judi Lynn]

11. There would have been no crucifiction, no "Christianity" as we know it, had the Lord been carrying!

He could have just blown them all up, and made a hasty retreat with his little friend.

You're not alone. This world looks absolutely NOTHING like it did not that long ago, when there were still so many things wrong that needed to be changed in a hurry.

[braddy]

14. Jesus's men were carrying, probably two of them at least, Jesus went voluntarily to meet his

preordained fate, not because he did not have the means to resist.

[Judi Lynn]

15. He rebuked Peter when he cut Malchus' ear, which Jesus healed in the Garden of Gethsemane.

The fact that Peter had a knife doesn't indicate that Jesus Christ approved of harming people for any reason, does it?

I've heard it speculated that Peter would have carried a long fisherman's knife, which sounds logical.

Who was this other guy you claim was "carrying?"

[braddy]

18. Peter had a sword, not just a knife, they all probably had a knife, including Jesus, Jesus

had to go with the men to fulfill his purpose, he did not submit because he couldn't defend himself, as you seemed to be saying.

There was also a second sword in the group since they had been told to get swords and had showed Jesus both of them.
Unless Jesus ate everything with his fingers, he would have had a knife as that was the common eating tool, and is still the basic tool for outdoors living, cooking, and eating, tasks, as travelers they would have carried their own eating tools and the fork wasn't invented yet.

Cutting the man's ear with a knife seems a strange physical move for knife use, but does fit the attempt to deliver a blow from a sword.

[Judi Lynn]

32. As a minister's kid I sat in church throughout my childhood and NEVER heard one person speculating

on what kind of weapons Christ's disciples would carry.

It seemed generally believed they were NOT scrappers, but seekers of the truth, not to "stand their ground."

There's a first time for everything, apparently.

Simply amazing.

[braddy]

35. I didn't say they were scrappers, and they were seekers of the truth, so what is that you learned

in that church that led you to you post as you did?

[Judi Lynn]

37. Why would you read what I said as implying he didn't have the means to resist?

It's pointed out graphically in the New Testament that the "Devil" stood by Christ on a mountain, daring him to jump, tempting him to see if his father wouldn't save him.

It's pounded in throughout the Testaments that Jesus Christ was clearly in control of supernatural powers beyond all normal understanding.

Maybe you should take time to try to understand what it is you're reading.

[braddy]

38. I'm glad that you knew that, but you did more than imply. You said "There would have been no

crucifixion, no "Christianity" as we know it, had the Lord been carrying! He could have just blown them all up, and made a hasty retreat with his little friend.""

[Judi Lynn]

39. And you can't grasp what I said? For the "Lord" to have been "carrying,"

he would NOT have been the "Lord" who came to teach things just a tiny bit more evolved than violence.

He would not have been seen as a perfected, an evolved higher being, he would have been seen as an asshole had he been a reactionary dirtbag who always came prepared to scuffle and harm someone else. He didn't DO that. It wasn't his nature. Everyone knew him as being different from violent, greedy clowns, that's why they sought him out as having something important about life they needed to know.

Not everyone does now. Some people are not deteriorated inside. They don't want, need, have time for weapons.

[braddy]

42. No I didn't, and don't see that interpretation on what you posted and in the context of it,

you posted ""There would have been no crucifixion, no "Christianity" as we know it, had the Lord been carrying!""

What could he have carried, that he didn't already have with him?

What would have been "his little friend", which seems to reflect a gun, as is the topic of the thread, and the movie that you are referencing?

[forest444]

8. God does indeed work in mysterious ways.

The bible thumpers were right after all.

[LynneSin]

9. Technically it's a dry and drugfree campus

so hopefully it won't be so bad.

[llmart]

28. The university where I work is smoke free......

and I've never seen so many cigarette butts on the ground and in the shrubbery and parking lots in any other place I've worked. These are young people we're talking about.

[NoMoreRepugs]

10. religion in politics - BAD

religion in higher education - equally as BAD to me

[houston16revival]

20. What better way

to control the minds of deviants?

[Judi Lynn]

33. Should they pray before taking a shot? Pray that the person won't die? Pray that he/she WILL die? nt

[louis-t]

21. Guns don't just magically appear in the "gun safe".

They have to be carried onto campus before they are locked up. What could possibly go fucking wrong?

[SoapBox]

22. Gee, what could go wrong?!?

Wackjob religious types and guns.

How long before the first death(s)?

[Turbineguy]

24. You just never know

when you run into some lefty who needs shootin'!

[Buzz Clik]

26. Thinning the herd.

[blm]

27. I hate to say this, but……GOOD!

Couldn't be happier for them for getting their wishes.

[joanbarnes]

29. Thank God its not Pot! (or beer!)

[JonLeibowitz]

30. Private institution: their rules. Good for them.

Not sure why there are so many sanctimonious comments here.

[Judi Lynn]

34. If they want to celebrate the God of War, they need to change their school's name. n/t

[braddy]

36. As churches increasingly come under attack, I think they know that Christian schools will come

under threat, if you visit Jewish schools you will see that some of them are years ahead in considering defenses against attacks.

[Judi Lynn]

40. Many of us already heard that fear mongering crap as children, when people babbled about "commies"

planning to take over the earth and the first people they were going to kill would be the Christians, when they would refuse to "deny" their faith.

They went on an extended bender trying to claim the "commies" and the "Catholics" were plotting together to overthrow the whole country, world, universe, etc., and as a "proof" they loved to claim a truck had run into a Catholic Church and it had fallen over, revealing a hole down into the basement wherein were stored lots and lots of guns, etc.

Oh, yes, Commies, and Catholics wanted to go murder poor little white Anglo Saxon Protestant children, aw, poor things. For some reason, that didn't happen, yet, and so it appears one way or another some people want to get that gibberish in circulation again. Help, they're coming for us.

Your great acquaintance with the "Holy Book" should have left you aware that Jesus Christ knew they were "coming for" him, and he actually let it play out. He met his face like a brave person, didn't run around howling, making threats, or trying to get others to fight for his defense. That in itself should have stuck in some of the minds of the people who heard the story.

[braddy]

41. Many of us, and millions of others, were killed by the Communists, I was in the Army during the last

war with the communists, my stepdad in the one before that, my father fought the Nazis who had been allied with the Communists, I know refugees who survived from the millions who died at their hands after that last war and there were millions who died between those wars and 10s of millions who died before those wars, and much of the world is yet largely enslaved by them.

If the university wants to allow it's students to carry on campus as they do off campus, more power to them, many universities are doing the same, it should reduce the chances of mass killings and successful terrorist attacks, security is an issue.

[Judi Lynn]

43. Oh, my goodness. Thanks for your views. n/t