DNC to hold public hearings for party platform
Source: Politico
The Democratic National Committee plans to hold a series of hearings around the country this summer to collect input for the Democratic Party platform.
In a joint statement on Friday, DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Maryland Rep. Elijah Cummings, chairman of the Platform Drafting Committee for the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, announced hearings in Washington, Phoenix, St. Louis and Orlando, Florida, in early June and early July.
The goal of the public hearings, the two Democrats said, is to solicit input from policy experts and regular Democrats.
The events in Washington on June 8-9, and in Phoenix on June 17-18, will be forums featuring testimony. The hearing in St. Louis on June 24-25 will be a Drafting Committee meeting, and the hearing in Orlando on July 8-9 will be a Platform Committee meeting.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/2016-dem-primary-live-updates-and-results/2016/05/dnc-public-hearings-platform-223663
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)HeartoftheMidwest
(309 posts)At this late stage of the game, smells like damage control to me.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)The Democratic Party is taking input from citizens (read: Hillary supporters) in non Democratic states! Why didn't they have hearings in liberal states? What are they afraid of?
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mazzarro
(3,450 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)and, while the residents are liberal, it is the wonkiest and most political punditocracy in the world.
And color me cynical, it was undoubtedly picked because the primary will be held there the following week: "The events in Washington on June 8-9...will be forums featuring testimony." Sounds sort of like a 'Town Hall.' Hillary doesn't want any more debates, but let's see if she shows up to "testify."
Any comment on not holding ANY of the 4 hearings in solidly blue liberal states?
JudyM
(29,280 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)For that matter, so is Maryland. It's not a mistake or coincidence that it's south of the Mason-Dixon line.
If you have a hearing in DC, the majority of attendees will be from No. VA because the majority of metro DC residents live in No. VA and because select employers (CSC, Raytheon, Boeing, McD-Douglas) will bus them in to insure the tone and tenor of the feedback the DNC receives. There's nothing wrong with No. VA...but it's hardly representative of the Democratic party unless you think 28% of Democrats nationally work for defense contractors of USDoD and support the GWoT. Another 20% or so will be Federal employees.
In any case, it's a meeting whose location will largely dictate the feedback they get...and that feedback will not really be representative of most Democrats.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)They 100% certain mean DC as they nearly always refer to DC as Washington and always refer to the state as "Washington state" or the "state of Washington"...further, look at the rest of the list...it's city-names.
If they meant Washington state, they'd have said "Washington state" or Seattle or Olympia or wherever.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)3 subjects that a LOT of VOCAL Bernie supporters have very little skill in.
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)When one is referring to Washinton, DC, they usually say "DC" or "Washington, DC".
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I think they meant DC.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)when I say it doesn't feel like the south to me.
I have no real horse in this race (north/south) as it were.
I've been told that the Mason-Dixon line is what makes the North and the South.
I do get what you are saying, I do.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)is in demarcation. Lol.
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Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Response to Raine1967 (Reply #53)
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JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Take your beef to the US Census Bureau who has it firmly in the Southern States category. By the way, Maryland (and the District) was a southern slave state right up to the start of the Civil War.
Any comment on not holding any of the hearings in solidly blue states?
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)brooklynite
(94,745 posts)Florida has been in the Democratic column in 2008 2012
tazkcmo
(7,302 posts)St Louis and KC are but the rest isn't. Thew state legislature is Republican and the governor may soon follow.
Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)What used to be MO 2nd district was full of mouth breathers.
Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)They would be GOP in any New England State.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)but having been to St. L and KC (they're both lovely, underrated American gems by the way), I'm pretty sure even my former Republican (CT) governor M. Jodi Rell would be denounced in Missouri as a socialist.
A Republican that believes in higher education spending, thinks teachers are underpaid, supports free and low-cost breast cancer screening, bolstered-up what is now one of the best and most-comprehensive CHIPs in the nation, raised taxes when necessary, and is pro-choice? That doesn't sound like any Republican I've ever seen outside New England.
(She's still a terrible person which is how I know she's a Republican.)
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)JimDandy
(7,318 posts)solidly blue liberal states?
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Solidly Blue states are already a win for the party.
I am not sure what you are implying or want to get at.
(I am not trying to be daft, please know that)
Why would the Party go to solid blue states?
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)the guiding document of the Democratic Party! It stands to reason then, that the party should want input from liberals, and would hold hearings in solid blue states that, provably, strongly support the party and its mission.
beastie boy
(9,460 posts)Two blue states, two red states. And all of the participants will be Democrats.
More equitable than five radicals deciding the fate of the Democratic Party in all 50 states, wouldn't you say?
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beastie boy
(9,460 posts)And I really dislike people telling me what I mean. I mean, I should know better what I mean than what you think I mean, no?
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beastie boy
(9,460 posts)You were asking me whether I meant what I obviously didn't mean. Not even close to the subject.
I am still lost as to how a reference to five radicals can lead anyone to ask a question about union busting.
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beastie boy
(9,460 posts)What connection is there between union rights and an environmentalist, a philosopher, a congressman, a pollster and a Native American activist did you see in my posts?
Unless you just plucked "values not representative of the Democratic party" out of context and arbitrarily assumed there is a connection between this and union rights.
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beastie boy
(9,460 posts)Top Bernie Sanders supporters Dr. Cornel West and Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) will be among those on the Democratic Party's important Platform Drafting Committee after the Vermont senator won a key concession as he looks to leave his mark on the party's platform.
Along with West and Ellison, Sanders supporters on the committee are author Bill McKibben, Arab American Institute head James Zogby and Native American activist Deborah Parker.
Edit to add the link: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/280941-sanders-names-cornel-west-keith-ellison-to-platform
silvershadow
(10,336 posts)beastie boy
(9,460 posts)And in reference to the OP: there are five of them. Far fewer than the number of Democrats anticipated to participate in the scheduled hearings.
Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)I'd like the Democratic values of that era, thanks.
beastie boy
(9,460 posts)And your likes notwithstanding, the five Bernie appointees that I speak of do not represent the values of the Democratic Party of the 1970s either.
Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)certainly do represent the values of that time.
beastie boy
(9,460 posts)a Democratic Party platform of the times?
Ok, here's your challenge:
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/?pid=29606
This is the Democratic Platform of 1976. Try to match as many items from it to the positions of Bernie's five candidates. Cite examples expressing their respective positions.
If you can't match at least half of the items in the platform to the positions of at least half of Bernie's candidates, you lose.
Have fun!
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)question everything
(47,537 posts)of the Platform Committee: Screw Israel!
"Gazans are martyrs, Israelis are guilty for crimes against humanity."
I like this observation:
"Last we checked, it was better to be a woman, or homosexual, or environmentalist, or political dissident in Tel Aviv than in Gaza"
Anyone ever heard of China occupying Tibet? Anyone cares?
iandhr
(6,852 posts)Some students at University of Chicago, where I attend, proposed a resolution to our College Council to divest from Chinese weapons manufacturers, in protest of Chinas severe human rights abuses and its long-standing occupation of Tibet.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/on-my-campus-jews-are-the-only-minority-we-dont-protect_us_572a9b98e4b046ff51c08a44
The members noted it was political, and disrespectful to Chinese students. Other members noted that Chinese students should be given time to respond to the presenters with a counter-presentation. One representative even suggested that the College Council issue an apology to Chinese students for even considering the resolution. The resolution was tabled indefinitely.
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RandySF
(59,264 posts)He's spent his life writing documents while actually accomplishing nothing.
Gore1FL
(21,152 posts)you might want to apply a little thought and research first, or you'll end up with posts like the one I am responding to.
me b zola
(19,053 posts)How many lobbyists are going to be "voting" on the platform? Will it be a similar make-up of the super delegates?
YvonneCa
(10,117 posts)...annoying. Arizona is the only western state? Or is that Washington state?
Edited to add..,
It's DC. Link: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/democratic-national-convention-committee-announces-series-of-platform-hearings-across-the-country-300276314.html
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)Instead, I see it being met with a lot of suspicion in this thread.
I just want our party to heal and get together. This is a good thing -- it also good politics.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I don't understand why some people in this thread don't.
*sigh*
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)and when I say we, am pretty agnostic.
I have a feeling that sanders supporters will be calling for this in all 50 states before the end of the weekend.
JimDandy
(7,318 posts)Duval
(4,280 posts)I need to read more about it and also see where this goes. However, the fact that these are being held in Republican controlled states does make me suspicious. I, too, have been a life long Democrat. How they have handled this election is very troubling.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)So I wonder who will make up the "regular Democrats"?
And even if it will be open to actual "regular Democrats" of all persuasions, what percentage and influence will come from the "policy experts"?
I wish I wasn't so cynical but with DWS involved I think I know the answers to these questions.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,176 posts)About who influences the final outcome.
The DNC and DWS can still decide which opinions, suggestions, questions etc... actually make it onto the floor for discussion.
And they can still also decide in the end, how much they want to listen to the "regulars" and what direction in policy they have already pre-decided on in collusion with their own third way "policy advisors". In other words how much is just for show?
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)If you think it's for show, don't go.
I agree.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I wouldn't trust that woman to bury a dead cat.
JudyM
(29,280 posts)I want to find out how to get in the the DC forum!
beastie boy
(9,460 posts)He thought he could stir trouble with his radical nominees to the Rules committee and push a Bernie agenda rather than the people's agenda.
Well, with the open hearings, the will of the people will be known well before Beernie gets a chance to spin it.
Almost makes me rethink my less-than-flattering opinion of DWS' intelligence.
highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)victory and turn it into a Regressive defeat.
beastie boy
(9,460 posts)Bernie has lost. Appointing five radicals to bicker over convention rules is an obstruction, not a victory.
Hillary won. She gets to set an agenda.
This looks to me, using your labels, like a "regressive" victory and a "progressive" defeat. It also looks, using your labels again, like the majority of the Democrats have rejected "progressive" in favor of "regressive".
You may now go ahead and tell me how Democrats don't know what's good for them.
OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)beastie boy
(9,460 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)OnDoutside
(19,974 posts)not really at you but just a question as to really started this Progressive nonsense ? Is it just a name change because the American people would find it hard to accept the term "Left" or even "Socialist" ?
alarimer
(16,245 posts)Those people are hardly radicals. Only in the fever-dreams of a corporate boot-licker are they radicals.
beastie boy
(9,460 posts)Only in the fever dreams of a delusional revisionist does Bernie's agenda become a people's agenda.
dicksmc3
(262 posts)Who in the hell are they trying to appease with this BS??? We all know what our platform should be--- SERVE THE PEOPLE WHO VOTED YOU INTO OFFICE!! That's simple enough isn't it?? Time for the ESTABLISHMENT to get the hell out of the way and let TRUE DEMOCRATS take over!!!
alarimer
(16,245 posts)They have rigged it so they get the answers they want.
I mean, this primary season has made it clear that lots of people want a return to New Deal era Democrats, not corporate bullshit.