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Night Watchman

(743 posts)
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:32 PM Jun 2016

Hillary Clinton is off to a faster start than Donald Trump is in Ohio -- and it isn't even close

Source: Cleveland.com

By Henry J. Gomez, cleveland.com
on June 20, 2016 at 1:55 PM, updated June 20, 2016 at 2:01 PM

CLEVELAND, Ohio – When Hillary Clinton speaks Tuesday in Columbus, she will continue what has been a remarkably traditional beginning to her general election campaign.

The presumptive Democratic nominee for president is sticking with a battleground map that served President Barack Obama well. She and her allies have unleashed a blitz of early television ads aimed at shoring up their base. And Ohio, as always, is right in the thick of things.

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Democrats say they now have 150 full-time employees on the ground in Ohio. It's a mix of Ohio Democratic Party and Democratic National Committee staff. In the weeks since Clinton locked up the nomination, all factions appear to be working harmoniously toward her election and toward the election of Ted Strickland, who is challenging Republican Sen. Rob Portman.

"Ohio Democrats – state party, Clinton and Strickland campaigns – are all singing from the same hymnal," Kirstin Alvanitakis, communications director for the Ohio Democratic Party, said Sunday in an email. "It's unclear if Ohio Republicans are even in the same church."

Read more: http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2016/06/hillary_clinton_is_off_to_a_fa.html#incart_m-rpt-1



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Hillary Clinton is off to a faster start than Donald Trump is in Ohio -- and it isn't even close (Original Post) Night Watchman Jun 2016 OP
Surprising no one. trump has NO "team" of any kind in any state. 7962 Jun 2016 #1
It seems there is no Republcan ground game anywhere padfun Jun 2016 #3
I was pretty sure it'd NOT be Bush; none of my GOP friends/cowrkers were supporting him 7962 Jun 2016 #10
Trump is paralyzing the entire election for Rs Cosmocat Jun 2016 #16
Meanwhile trump and his children are The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #2
Off to basically no start... and.. phazed0 Jun 2016 #4
he is still gathering a huge amount of votes? when did that happen? snooper2 Jun 2016 #20
Maybe I should have used the past tense.. gathered. nt phazed0 Jun 2016 #21
Bold Prediction EricMaundry Jun 2016 #5
He'll make it easy on everyone and quit. He won't allow a loss and he wiggs Jun 2016 #8
That wouldnt surprise me at ALL. 7962 Jun 2016 #12
They do that and 3/4 of his voters will stay home. 7962 Jun 2016 #11
Yes, I think the Republicans have no choice but to let this "play out" Midnight Writer Jun 2016 #13
but Reagan was no Trump. He'd been a governor. he knew how to campaign 7962 Jun 2016 #14
1 in a 1,000,000 chance they "dump" him Cosmocat Jun 2016 #17
tRump is planning to insert pod people in all battleground States. Better, no paid staff. kairos12 Jun 2016 #6
Clinton has 27x as many full-time staffers as Trump nationwide Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #7
Uh Oh billhicks76 Jun 2016 #9
63% more people voted as Republicans than Democrats in the Ohio Primary. mackdaddy Jun 2016 #15
My parents Blackjackdavey Jun 2016 #18
I sure hope you are correct, but 1.2million Democratic to 2 million Republican votes mackdaddy Jun 2016 #19
 

7962

(11,841 posts)
1. Surprising no one. trump has NO "team" of any kind in any state.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 06:40 PM
Jun 2016

he still thinks he can win the old fashioned way; by just being HIM.

padfun

(1,786 posts)
3. It seems there is no Republcan ground game anywhere
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jun 2016

And I may be way off, I cant really be sure. But if there is a lack of activity, then that could mean that the RNC is not going out of their way to help Trump build one, and he doesn't seem to think he needs one. It seems almost suicidal.

Two years ago, I though it was going to be a boring primary, with Hillary facing Bush in the election. but it has been a really interesting season instead. I ran out of popcorn quite a while back. This development just assures us that the show will go on.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
10. I was pretty sure it'd NOT be Bush; none of my GOP friends/cowrkers were supporting him
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jun 2016

Hardly a scientific poll since the numbers arent that high, but it didnt bode well.
Most were of the "No more Bushes/Clintons" mindset

Youre right, who knows WHAT is going on with them now

Cosmocat

(14,561 posts)
16. Trump is paralyzing the entire election for Rs
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 10:29 AM
Jun 2016

It isn't seemless, but everything builds of the top of the ticket.

To have the POTUS candidates campaign be completely non-existent is a MAJOR problem on down ticket campaigns.

 

phazed0

(745 posts)
4. Off to basically no start... and..
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 07:52 PM
Jun 2016

He is still gathering a huge amount of votes. We had better hope he doesn't start spending (or finding) money for Ads and whatnot.

This gun stuff couldn't have come at a worse time because Trump can claim Obama and the D's are after their guns - and they will eat it up.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
20. he is still gathering a huge amount of votes? when did that happen?
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:47 PM
Jun 2016

are there more States that I don't know about?

 

EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
5. Bold Prediction
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 08:13 PM
Jun 2016

The Pugs come up with a way to dump Trump at their convention. This will help contribute to Cleveland 2016 becoming the bloodiest political confab since Chicago in 1968.

wiggs

(7,811 posts)
8. He'll make it easy on everyone and quit. He won't allow a loss and he
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:48 PM
Jun 2016

won't pass up an opportunity to come out of this year long on-the-cheap campaign with a lot of money.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
12. That wouldnt surprise me at ALL.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:32 PM
Jun 2016

Boy do i get blasted by a few of my friends when i suggest it!!

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
11. They do that and 3/4 of his voters will stay home.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 11:31 PM
Jun 2016

Tough shit, he's who they voted for, you're stuck with him. Let him get his ass beat & next time maybe they'll understand you gotta have people with actual real plans running for the highest office in the world

Midnight Writer

(21,737 posts)
13. Yes, I think the Republicans have no choice but to let this "play out"
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:14 AM
Jun 2016

I only pray it doesn't backfire. I laughed at Reagan's Presidential bid, and looked what happened there.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
14. but Reagan was no Trump. He'd been a governor. he knew how to campaign
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 06:19 AM
Jun 2016

Trump has no grasp about how to campaign of how to govern. Its easy to win a primary when you tell everyone what they want to hear, but the general election is different. He's got to win over people & he's pushing them away.
And i think he's too arrogant to admit his "style" cant win a general

Cosmocat

(14,561 posts)
17. 1 in a 1,000,000 chance they "dump" him
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 10:35 AM
Jun 2016

there actually is less steam behind that idea now than two months ago.

He got past a critical mass of actual votes, states won and more importantly delegates.

They talked a big game in April, but once he got past that critical mass, they have ducked their tails and run into a corner.

Being the impetuous jackasses they are, there will be elements that will do this "anyone but trump" thing, but there is not near the mass to this to "dump" him now.

Best we could see is some chaos on the delegate votes, but there is no one to coalesce around.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
7. Clinton has 27x as many full-time staffers as Trump nationwide
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:40 PM
Jun 2016

He has 30, she has over 800. And has spent some $35 million on ads in swing states to his $0. I read somewhere he is over a year and a half behind where he should be right now.

mackdaddy

(1,523 posts)
15. 63% more people voted as Republicans than Democrats in the Ohio Primary.
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 09:07 AM
Jun 2016

I am not sure what this means for the general election, but it does not instill confidence.

This article talks about how many people crossed over and voted on the cross party ballot which is allowed in Ohio. More registered Democrats requested and voted on Republican specific ballots than vice-versa. But the bigger issue I see is how many more Republicans came out to vote. This is a Kasich vs Trump state, but if anything like this turnout happens in November, we will get trounced in Ohio.


Ohio Secretary of State Jon Husted released statewide data this week revealing how many Ohioans switched political party affiliation in the most recent election. County data was also released.

Because Ohio has open primary elections, voters do not register with a political party, but are instead affiliated with a political party by casting a ballot in a partisan primary election. Voters can select any party ballot they choose during primary elections. Voters also have the option of remaining unaffiliated by casting an “issues only” ballot.

snip

Statewide, a total of 1,197,725 voters cast a ballot in the Democratic primary election, 34,867 of whom were previously affiliated with the Republican Party, representing just 2.9 percent of all Democratic ballots cast. In contrast, 1,952,684 voters cast ballots in the Republican Primary, 115,762 of whom were previously affiliated with the Democratic Party, representing 5.9 percent of the total Republican votes cast.


http://www.athensmessenger.com/news/more-than-locals-switched-political-party-affiliation-in-primary/article_0cbe0d02-e83a-5617-91ae-e6aac1ead07f.html

Blackjackdavey

(178 posts)
18. My parents
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 11:26 AM
Jun 2016

crossed over to vote against Trump -- apparently this was a widespread movement in Ohio. They aren't and will not be voting Republican in the fall.

mackdaddy

(1,523 posts)
19. I sure hope you are correct, but 1.2million Democratic to 2 million Republican votes
Tue Jun 21, 2016, 12:35 PM
Jun 2016

in the Ohio Primary is troubling.

We seem to have a lot of people supporting the RW crazies in Rural SE Ohio. I have already seen several Trump signs, and a few anti-Obama signs. They do not even know why they hate Obama and "them liberals", they just do.

Even the cheapest Sat TV package includes Fox Nuze. And nearly every big AM station is RW hate radio that is not sports talk.

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