California Delegates Boo Speakers At The Mention Of Uniting To Elect Clinton
Source: Talking Points Memo
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House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Rep. Michael Honda (D-CA) were among the speakers who were booed. The crowd began protesting whenever uniting to elect Clinton was mentioned, Roll Call reported..
Some delegates also began chanting, "Bernie, Bernie, Bernie!" during Rep. Barbara Lee's (D-CA) speech, according to the report, and a sign supporting Sanders was thrust into Pelosi's face.
"I don't consider it a discourtesy even if it is intended as one," the minority leader reportedly said.
The uproar comes after it was revealed in leaked internal emails posted online Friday by Wikileaks that some DNC officials had potentially plotted against Sanders' campaign. DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz, who announced Sunday that she'd resign after the convention is over, was also booed Monday morning at a breakfast for the Florida delegation.
Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/california-delegates-boo-over-uniting-clinton
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Democracy is messy. Deal with it.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)There are standards of politeness that have to be honored for the system to function. Our institutions aren't strong enough for people to behave however they want at all times.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)One is respecting the rights of speakers in the room when they are called upon to speak. You don't just endlessly shout down people.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Something that beeds to be addressed and not glossed over.
Zynx
(21,328 posts)Of course not. They're people who think the protests of the DNC in 1968 hurt Nixon. Of course, they elected him.
Laser102
(816 posts)Statistical
(19,264 posts)I would like to voice my opinion in your living room at 3:30 in the morning at the top of my lungs. I am sure you will welcome that right?
Or maybe there is a time and place for everything.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Statistical
(19,264 posts)More like a hypothetical point. Someone being disruptive at an inappropriate place and time is a personal threat? Does that apply the convention protesters as well or just me?
snooper2
(30,151 posts)LOL
geologic
(205 posts)SunSeeker
(51,554 posts)Their candidate lost. Hillary won, by a lot. They refuse to respect the result of the democratic process. That is deplorable, especially since it plays into Trump's and Putin's hands.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Or better yet...keep on rubbing their noses in it. That'll help.
SunSeeker
(51,554 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)To start booing and chanting "Bernie, Bernie" during the opening prayer is completely out of line. Fuck those assholes for their lack of respect.
Senator Sanders has told his supporters to support Secretary Clinton. If they don't want to so that, then they should STOP using his name as their way of disrupting the proceedings.
Anarchy is not democracy. These few remaining die hards are pushing for anarchy and have nothing to do with democracy. Democracy has elected Hillary Clinton as the nominee for the Democratic Party.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)elleng
(130,903 posts)uawchild
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Yeah, its all his fault. I blame Putin too. Who else could be responsible for dissension over disappointing DNC emails?
WHO wrote THOSE emails?
Putin? yes, must be... lol
Let's all focus on PUTIN. Pootie Poot. The Pootster. The Pootie man.
PUTIN WROTE THE LEAKED DNC EMAILS. That much is obvious. Who else would say those things about Bernie?
Only PUTIN. Putin is to blame, so I blame Putin.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)At this time, leaking emails right as the convention is to begin...
And the media is fixated on this.....
Yes, I'd say he has succeeded....
uawchild
(2,208 posts)It's not as if someone else actually WROTE those leaked DNC emails.
Our outrage should be focussed on Putin. Putin is to blame. Pootie Poot.
Putin Putin putin putin...
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Putin Putin putin putin...
PaulaFarrell
(1,236 posts)Now THAT needs some backing up. You know, just because you don't like someone, you can't throw any old aspersion around that you like.
Its strange, not half an hour ag o my daughter and I were discussing why people are so nasty these days. You have provided a prime example of someone throwing really nasty shit just because someone has different political beliefs than you do.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)I stand corrected
Alleged child rapist and serial molester....
Meanwhile , a Trump supporter and convenient Wikileaker...
PaulaFarrell
(1,236 posts)All I could find googling 'assange child rapist' was a reference to him helping a paedophile fight deportation. Worse/better than hrc helping a guilty rapist go free? Especially when you consider that a paediphile in a Somalia is essentially free whereas in the uk we could at least hope for supervision.
apcalc
(4,465 posts)PaulaFarrell
(1,236 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)apcalc
(4,465 posts)apcalc
(4,465 posts)uawchild
(2,208 posts)No he didn't.
The FBI is just investigating WHO the LEAKER/WHISTLEBLOWER is.
No one disputes the emails are real and written by the DNC.
The Putin Pootie Poot putin stuff is just to distract people who are angry over those emails.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)If the party leadership is smart then it better hurry up and engage the dissenters...in private if necessarry.
Otherwise the dissenters will engage them publicly.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)stopbush
(24,396 posts)Period.
The party dodged a major bullet by not nominating Sanders.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Rather than dodging a bullet, it looks to any outside observer that the DNC branch of the party just had the political gun they pointed at Bernie blow up in their face.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)revealed long after the primaries ended is what gave Hillary a margin of victory over Sanders of 4-million votes.
Sanders ran a crappy, myopic campaign. His message was roundly rejected by the vast majority of Ds. He needed no bias within the DNC to lose as badly as he did. He did that on his own, with a major assist from Weaver.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)That's a site rule.
This reminds me of people who become angry at the local paper for publishing the story about a drunk driver, as if the public humiliation is because the journalist wrote the story, when actually the news story is the fallout, because the idiot chose to drive drunk.
Clueless people think the the problem is the email release. It isn't. That is just a consequence of the actual problems.
The real problems are the ongoing situational ethics and the decision by the DNC to undermine Sanders' campaign. The consequence is the stain the DNC's actions have left on Clinton's chances.
There is no reason to celebrate this, as the DNC may have paved the path for a Trump victory.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Maven
(10,533 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)party that used to support them?
Maven
(10,533 posts)to express their preferences, and didn't agree with them?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Cautionary tale and all.
Maven
(10,533 posts)There is no point in trying to appease them. They don't even listen to their own candidate.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)I am a Democrat...
Hekate
(90,683 posts)It was humorous when Will Rogers said it in 1932 -- 84 years ago. It's not funny any more.
Lochloosa
(16,064 posts)Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)But it appears to be true...
elleng
(130,903 posts)CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)was supposedly involved those. I sure don't see the point of booing someone like Barbara Lee, no matter what you think of Hillary, Bernie or Trump.
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)the goal of the rich and/or powerful is one big moderate party, with the right of the Republican Party cut loose, along with the left of the Democratic Party, neither having the numbers to win, ever. I know I am not alone in that as I have seen it speculated about elsewhere--and I do not mean JPR. I think, though, that they intended to get there without this happening along the way.
I am floored. (no pun intended).
southern_belle
(1,647 posts)bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)It's hard to be adult when children are throwing tantrums. In psychology, advice to parents is "Don't argue with a child because you lose five years of maturity every minute listening to their nonsense." Democrats, remain strong against the outside threat to the party!
southern_belle
(1,647 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)olddad56
(5,732 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)merrily
(45,251 posts)But your post made me laugh and no one should have a sense of humor about this very serious stuff.
I blame you.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Response to bluedye33139 (Reply #11)
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deurbano
(2,895 posts)bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)deurbano
(2,895 posts)politics about five minutes ago, which may be worse. (Given that they are actual California delegates to the Democratic convention.)
southern_belle
(1,647 posts)Bernie has endorsed Hillary and will speak about why Trump is definitely not the answer! These people are shooting themselves (and the country) in the foot. This is definitely counterproductive and may hand Trump the Presidency.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)Democat
(11,617 posts)Not Democrats.
FBaggins
(26,737 posts)That's pretty unlikely.
Trump isn't organized enough to get his own delegates selected for RNC delegations, but somehow he can get them into ours?
A far better explanation is to accept it for what it is. A large number of Democrats are pretty ticked off at our "leadership".
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)The Democratic Party is truly diverse.
bluedye33139
(1,474 posts)in the Democratic party, its magnificent history, its awesomely diverse base of support, and its freedom of conscience and belief. I have said before, I wish that Bernie had joined the party years ago so that this argument could be between Democrats and Democrats, instead of Democrats and folks who thought they could *tolerate* the party if Sanders was given all the keys to the kingdom.
LisaM
(27,811 posts)Please.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)that some aren't still pissed at what they see as a tone-deaf party.
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)Just the Bernie Or Bust people who are causing the disruptions at the convention.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)yardwork
(61,608 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)yardwork
(61,608 posts)Maven
(10,533 posts)Nice to see you in these turbulent times
yardwork
(61,608 posts)BlueMTexpat
(15,369 posts)delegates to the Convention, I would venture that they are NOT Hillary delegates.
If speakers get booed for calling for unity behind the WINNER of the Dem primaries and the popular vote, then those who are booing are NOT Dems, whatever they may call themselves.
They are "trojan horse supporters" and we can - and WILL - win without them.
RAFisher
(466 posts)I'm currently unemployed, they could have sent me. I voted for Sanders in March but I'm 100% for Clinton. Do these fucking morons not know how primaries work???
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Aristus
(66,352 posts)California deserves a reality-TV star...
TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)Throd
(7,208 posts)TeamPooka
(24,226 posts)stuffmatters
(2,574 posts)As a Californian and lifelong contributor to the Democratic Party, I share the feelings of those in the Ca delegation who are trying to express their frustration with the marginalization of our state in the DNC primary process. We came last in the dates, so Iowa votes more influential than ours, the largest state/economy in the country? Then the cancellation of debate before the Ca primary and the courtesy to hear the candidate's focus on Ca's most high profile concerns. (fracking & earthquakes, marijuana legalization, the preferential funding of prisons over schools, the TPP and its ISDS threat to long fought for Ca environ, labor, food protections, the unaffordability of our once and free public universities, charter schools, net neutrality) That victory for Clinton was declared the night before our election only magnified my feeling as a Ca Democrat that our votes and voices were both not important and not heard@
the DNC.
There should be changes made by the DNC to the primary process to ensure 1/6 of all Americans and the state with the largest number of democrats are represented fairly. First and foremost move up our primary date so that our votes count. Second schedule a debate before our primary. To me that's what the "boos" from many in the Ca delegation express. They are not anti Clinton/Kane...they are expressing frustration to the leadership of our party, the DNC, which minimized Ca's voices, issues and our votes.
If not there, where?
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)This crap will get us there quickly.
David__77
(23,396 posts)I'm very proud of her!
hollowdweller
(4,229 posts)I have a feeling we are going to see a LOT more phone use in the future.
At about the time that a lot of people were starting to get with the team this came out.
Clinton was likely to win anyway and like the private server emails it seems to have had exactly the opposite effect than was intended.
I hope these people can be brought back in line.
Feel like Putin is really laughing now. My concern is an email drop of the deleted private server ones later in the campaign.
tenderfoot
(8,432 posts)I find interesting that many haven't figured that out yet.
smh.
kestrel91316
(51,666 posts)This tells me they are loyal to Trump and not Bernie.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)A lot of these people are just the garden variety of idiots who vote for anyone who is anti-establishment, regardless of actual policy views. They go from Ron Paul to Sanders to Stein or Trump without giving a shit about actual issues.