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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:01 PM Jul 2016

Bernie Sanders’ Former Press Secretary Says She Experienced Blatant Racism From Staffers

Source: BuzzFeed

In an interview for online newsletter Lenny, Symone Sanders said the Vermont senator was horrified when she told him about her experience.

posted on Jul. 30, 2016, at 5:10 p.m.

Tamerra Griffin
BuzzFeed News Reporter

Bernie Sanders’ former national press secretary says she experienced repeated incidents of racism from other staff while on the campaign trail, and at one point broke down in tears in her car.

In an interview for Lenny, an online newsletter co-founded by Lena Dunham, 26-year-old Symone Sanders (no relation to the Vermont senator) spoke with writer Mikki Halpin and described several instances in which felt she was discriminated against as a high-ranking black female campaign worker.

Mikki Halpin: Last time we spoke, you told me about some really frustrating experiences you had on the road that you felt were definitely related to being a woman of color. Do you want to talk a little bit about those?

Symone Sanders: There were multiple instances. There were places where I literally I couldn’t get in. I would go to the door, the staff entrance, and people would say, “This is staff only.” I’d have to explain to them that I was staff, and they would question me. I would have to say, “I’m the national press secretary. Did you watch me on the news the other day?” It was consistently happening. There was one week where it happened the entire week.


-snip-



Read more: https://www.buzzfeed.com/tamerragriffin/symone-sanders-discusses-racism?utm_term=.ifMyxxm22#.ce6RddyKK
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Bernie Sanders’ Former Press Secretary Says She Experienced Blatant Racism From Staffers (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2016 OP
I believe it, saw it here.. Hopefully we are pretty much united until November. Hoyt Jul 2016 #1
The racism wasn't from Bernie staffers, Hillary staffers, or the DNC. lapucelle Jul 2016 #10
"If you actual read the interview without an ulterior motive, you would know I wasn't talking about newthinking Jul 2016 #28
What the fuck difference does that make?? Again, that is not the fucking point!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #43
I was specifically responding to Hoyt's comment about unity. lapucelle Jul 2016 #44
One of the examples happened at a "campaign building." Whatever that means. pnwmom Jul 2016 #48
What did you see? Exactly? OwlinAZ Jul 2016 #69
Why am I not surprised? rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #2
Maybe the staff were Repubs? Turin_C3PO Jul 2016 #91
The whole interview is really interesting oberliner Jul 2016 #3
What's wrong with BuzzFeed? Are we now boycotting gay owned Progressive... DonViejo Jul 2016 #5
They can be annoying with their clickbait headlines and ads oberliner Jul 2016 #7
Many Sanders primary supporters are on the Hillary Train. Bernie's on the train too. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #13
Yes indeed oberliner Jul 2016 #14
Is the headline accurate or misleading? I read it and immediately thought it was Sanders staff think Jul 2016 #62
Headline is misleading emulatorloo Jul 2016 #87
What web site isn't hoisting click bait on their "pages"?.... DonViejo Jul 2016 #17
Good point oberliner Jul 2016 #22
Most every ad-supported site seems to focus on inflammatory 'hooks' to draw readers in emulatorloo Jul 2016 #29
I hear you. I refuse to, unless absolutely necessary, click on buzzfeed, raw story and a few others Hassin Bin Sober Jul 2016 #92
The headline is misleading. Can't you see that? think Jul 2016 #61
The issue was resolved hours ago but, thanks for jumping in DonViejo Jul 2016 #72
No. The issue is still not resolved. The headline makes it seem like Sanders staff were racist. think Jul 2016 #73
Do like I did, take it up with the Editor of Buzzfeed... DonViejo Jul 2016 #74
Important point: She is talking about venue staffers, not Sanders staffers oberliner Jul 2016 #4
Except she said this: pnwmom Jul 2016 #49
No she didn't oberliner Jul 2016 #50
From Event staffers, not campaign staffers. MgtPA Jul 2016 #6
Really shocking. Unfortunately I have to say it does not take me totally by surprise. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #8
Racism was from venue staffers not Sanders staffers oberliner Jul 2016 #12
Thanks. And appreciate yr clarification of your post above. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #15
Check my response oberliner Jul 2016 #18
She's terrific! emulatorloo Jul 2016 #26
Any campaign ever has blunders karynnj Jul 2016 #34
I take no pride in it, but I called it on the day of the big announcement in Burlington. n/t Tarheel_Dem Jul 2016 #9
Racism was from venue staffers not Sanders staffers oberliner Jul 2016 #11
well, Bernie shoulda scouted better, blah blah blah stupidicus Jul 2016 #19
why am I not surprised that BS's people would get the blame stupidicus Jul 2016 #16
Easy mistake to make based on poor Buzzfeed headline. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #20
sure it is stupidicus Jul 2016 #24
You accusing me of something? emulatorloo Jul 2016 #27
I stated an incontrovertible fact stupidicus Jul 2016 #30
My conscience is completely clear. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #39
Pretending a subjective perception is an "incontrovertible fact" seems an irrational statement LanternWaste Aug 2016 #99
hardly stupidicus Aug 2016 #102
This is the headline: Sanders’ Former Press Secretary Says She Experienced Racism On The Trail yurbud Jul 2016 #98
This headline is very misleading and should be changed adigal Jul 2016 #65
yep stupidicus Aug 2016 #101
Are you not used to it by now? OwlinAZ Jul 2016 #70
You did not include all of her discussion of this - Here newthinking Jul 2016 #21
The headline here seems to be deliberately deceptive oberliner Jul 2016 #23
Buzzfeed is trying to stoke the disunity narrative. lapucelle Jul 2016 #32
Thanks, we're restricted to posting only four paragraphs of copyrighted material by... DonViejo Jul 2016 #25
That's why you have to be careful what you select. That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #47
I didn't imply Sen Sanders and/or his campaign are/were racist... DonViejo Jul 2016 #75
The headline says *She Experienced Blatant Racism From Staffers* not VENUE staffers That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #93
Take it up, like I did, with the Editor of Buzzfeed and the folks that write the DU TOS. DonViejo Jul 2016 #94
Did they choose your paragraphs for you, or are they just keeping you from editing your post? That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #95
In general, I post the first four paragraphs of every OP I make... DonViejo Jul 2016 #96
You're aware your post hurts more than it helps and you're not going to change - understood. That Guy 888 Jul 2016 #97
Why didn't all staffers have identifying badges? frazzled Jul 2016 #31
So you don't think her race had anything to do with the incidents she described? oberliner Jul 2016 #33
Yes, race did have to do with it. BUT I've had incidents where I've forgotten to put on a badge... Moonwalk Jul 2016 #36
Gotcha oberliner Jul 2016 #37
No frazzled Jul 2016 #53
Understood oberliner Jul 2016 #54
That assumes that the white staffers showed credentials to the same venue staff Gormy Cuss Jul 2016 #82
yep bravenak Jul 2016 #35
Please take note that she was talking about venue staffers oberliner Jul 2016 #38
Doesn't matter. The atmosphere obviously allowed such shit bravenak Jul 2016 #40
That definitely wasn't what she said oberliner Jul 2016 #46
The least Buzz Feed could do is not try to be purposefully miseading. That shows a complete think Jul 2016 #55
I wonder though if the venue people Turin_C3PO Jul 2016 #89
What difference does that make? That's totally not the fucking point! Sanders didn't get it... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #42
Did you read the interview? oberliner Jul 2016 #45
will that be the book wher she tell this? PaulaFarrell Jul 2016 #64
But he and many of his supporters believe that economic justice is more important than race. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #41
He sees the two as intertwined democrattotheend Jul 2016 #63
They changed the title and substantially updated the article oberliner Jul 2016 #51
Say it ain't so, Bernie! George II Jul 2016 #52
I'd advise reading the original article before casting aspersions.... think Jul 2016 #57
This message was self-deleted by its author think Jul 2016 #59
She makes clear Turin_C3PO Jul 2016 #90
Not surprising. nt Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #56
Amazing considering the other day the Clintonistas JesterCS Jul 2016 #58
The headline is completely misleading. Racism is a very sensitive subject and accuracy is vital. think Jul 2016 #60
please self-delete. The headline is a blatant lie uhnope Jul 2016 #66
Really? More "Berners are Racists" posts on DU? Blue State Bandit Jul 2016 #67
Maybe it wasn't because she was black. Maybe they just didn't recognize her. Vinca Jul 2016 #68
Let's see 20,000 emails from the Sanders campaign. baldguy Jul 2016 #71
Movements on the left need to have organic roots in communities of color geek tragedy Jul 2016 #76
This is as silly as saying that they can NOT originate among people of color karynnj Jul 2016 #79
The left half of the country is increasingly non-white geek tragedy Jul 2016 #80
Do you disagree that Sanders being there raised the visibility karynnj Jul 2016 #83
the majority of downscale white men who vote Republican and especially for Trump geek tragedy Jul 2016 #84
I am not speaking of the election, but having the support to make changes karynnj Jul 2016 #85
I agree that continuing to grind axes from the primary is particularly geek tragedy Jul 2016 #86
I guess all us white working class leftists don't matter, then? Odin2005 Aug 2016 #104
Of course you matter. But, you need people of color to get anything done. geek tragedy Aug 2016 #105
Whoever wrote that headline should face discipline FOR CONVEYING KingCharlemagne Jul 2016 #77
"Sanders’ Former Press Secretary Says She Experienced Racism On The Trail" oberliner Jul 2016 #81
Flamebait. No surprise to see who thinks this refers to Bernie or his campaign Arazi Jul 2016 #78
Not Sanders campaign staff Turin_C3PO Jul 2016 #88
Buzzfeed has corrected their headline--WHY HAVEN'T YOU? yurbud Aug 2016 #100
Please correct this LYING HEADLINE - as Buzzfeed already did. JackRiddler Aug 2016 #103

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
10. The racism wasn't from Bernie staffers, Hillary staffers, or the DNC.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:14 PM
Jul 2016

It was from venue personnel, so I don't see this as a Democratic party unity issue.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
28. "If you actual read the interview without an ulterior motive, you would know I wasn't talking about
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:28 PM
Jul 2016

So buzzfeed deliberately misrepresented the interview with the headline and topic line. And made Symone have to defend her words. Why is this shit continuing here?

Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 44m44 minutes ago
I can't even take a nap without something going left. In the ELLE/LENNY interview, I detailed discrimination I experienced from venue staff

Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 43m43 minutes ago
If you actual read the interview without an ulterior motive, you would know I wasn't talking about campaign staff.

Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 41m41 minutes ago
The staff was amazing. I have never said a disparaging thing about any of my former coworkers because there is nothing disparaging to say.

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
44. I was specifically responding to Hoyt's comment about unity.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:54 PM
Jul 2016
"I believe it, saw it here.. Hopefully we are pretty much united until November."

It seemed to me that Hoyt was implying that Democrats were behind the racism. I was responding to his point.

It was a specific response to a specific comment by a specific person. It wasn't a general observation.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
48. One of the examples happened at a "campaign building." Whatever that means.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:18 PM
Jul 2016
Symone Sanders also described one incident in which a man came running up to her car at a campaign building yelling and banging on the window, “telling me to get the F out of here, this is for staff, and that I didn’t belong back here.”
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
3. The whole interview is really interesting
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:07 PM
Jul 2016

Here is a link directly to the interview in case people want to avoid giving Buzzfeed the clicks:

http://www.lennyletter.com/politics/interviews/a482/no-relation/

Symone Sanders is very much on board the Hillary train!

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
5. What's wrong with BuzzFeed? Are we now boycotting gay owned Progressive...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:11 PM
Jul 2016

news sites? The link to the Lenny site is in the second paragraph of the OP

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. They can be annoying with their clickbait headlines and ads
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jul 2016

But people are welcome to click on the link you provided as well - just offering another alternative, direct to the interview.

Edit to add: This particular headline sort of gives the impression that the racism came from Sanders staffers rather than venue staffers.

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
13. Many Sanders primary supporters are on the Hillary Train. Bernie's on the train too.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:16 PM
Jul 2016

Is that a problem? Does it undermine Symone Sanders' credibility somehow?

A little confused by your post.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. Yes indeed
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jul 2016

Of course it's not a problem - it's great!

I was just saying that after reading the whole interview with her, I was struck by her passionate support for Hillary!

 

think

(11,641 posts)
62. Is the headline accurate or misleading? I read it and immediately thought it was Sanders staff
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:51 PM
Jul 2016

What happened to Symone Sanders is completely deplorable.

But using misleading headlines to exploit acts of racism is also deplorable.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
17. What web site isn't hoisting click bait on their "pages"?....
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jul 2016

it gets old real fast. Huffington Post, Talking Points Memo, RawStory, the Daily Beast, The Hill, etc, etc.

The Washington Post puts their click bait into the email alerts they send out.

Click bait frequently makes my job a royal pain in the butt.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
22. Good point
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jul 2016

Every journalism outlet seems to be moving in that direction.

Buzzfeed, though, has always seemed pretty explicit about being focused more on generating clicks than anything else.

But, you are right, it is everywhere.

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
29. Most every ad-supported site seems to focus on inflammatory 'hooks' to draw readers in
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jul 2016

Annoying as hell to me. But that's how they make money, unfortunately.

I will say as an old guy I never have liked headlines. So truncated they never really represent the story.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,328 posts)
92. I hear you. I refuse to, unless absolutely necessary, click on buzzfeed, raw story and a few others
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 04:48 PM
Jul 2016

I used to really enjoy Photography is Not a Crime but it has become COMPLETELY unbearable. You can't scroll a page without accidentally opening some bullshit ads. I know they have to pay the bills but come on.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
73. No. The issue is still not resolved. The headline makes it seem like Sanders staff were racist.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:34 AM
Jul 2016

Thanks. That's really cool of you.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
74. Do like I did, take it up with the Editor of Buzzfeed...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:37 AM
Jul 2016

the OP has been posted in total compliance with the DU TOS

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
4. Important point: She is talking about venue staffers, not Sanders staffers
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:10 PM
Jul 2016

She makes this clear on Twitter:

Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 44m44 minutes ago
I can't even take a nap without something going left. In the ELLE/LENNY interview, I detailed discrimination I experienced from venue staff

Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 43m43 minutes ago
If you actual read the interview without an ulterior motive, you would know I wasn't talking about campaign staff.

Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 41m41 minutes ago
The staff was amazing. I have never said a disparaging thing about any of my former coworkers because there is nothing disparaging to say.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
49. Except she said this:
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jul 2016
Symone Sanders also described one incident in which a man came running up to her car at a campaign building yelling and banging on the window, “telling me to get the F out of here, this is for staff, and that I didn’t belong back here.”
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
50. No she didn't
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:25 PM
Jul 2016

The Buzzfeed article adds information here that is not true. Specifically, that the incident described took place "at a campaign building" which, if you read the interview, it very clearly did not.

Did you read the actual interview? If not, I would encourage you to do so.

MgtPA

(1,022 posts)
6. From Event staffers, not campaign staffers.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:12 PM
Jul 2016

Just read the whole article including the comments, not the campaign.

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
8. Really shocking. Unfortunately I have to say it does not take me totally by surprise.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:13 PM
Jul 2016

Sanders primary supporter here. Feel campaign was full of blunders.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
34. Any campaign ever has blunders
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:06 PM
Jul 2016

Sanders and his campaign got about 45 percent of the vote - in spite of the expectation being closer to 4.5!

Consider O'malley.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
19. well, Bernie shoulda scouted better, blah blah blah
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:20 PM
Jul 2016

anything to keep the now long used racism charge alive

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
16. why am I not surprised that BS's people would get the blame
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:19 PM
Jul 2016

due to the unqualified "staffer" designation?

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
20. Easy mistake to make based on poor Buzzfeed headline.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jul 2016

I made it, got clarification, read the interview, now I know better. All DU'ers aren't 'evil,' sometimes they are just human and fallible

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
24. sure it is
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:24 PM
Jul 2016

and particularly easy for those who tried to pin the racism charge on him and/or his supporters already

emulatorloo

(44,124 posts)
39. My conscience is completely clear.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jul 2016

Some posts I read these past few months do indeed fit your description

But I've also seen plenty of posts that were misinterpreted as saying 'Sanders is a racist' when they were actually posts giving great suggestions/strategies to how to improve outreach to AA voters.

So I am gonna say the way race was talked about here these last few months is not as simple as you describe it. Complicated, messy, and often hard to fathom what was going on

One thing I can say w certainty, I know the vast majority of posters here know that there is not a racist bone in Bernie's body. Lots of pushback on those who said he was from supporters of all our fine candidates

Primary's over, so not going to refight those battles again beyond what I've just written.

--

As to this particular thread, I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt. I was a Bernie primary supporter and I read the OP too quickly. I know I'm not the only one that was taken in by the poor headline. I really like Symone Sanders and I did not do my due diligence. I needed to read the full interview which I have done now.

You aren't willing to give people the benefit of the doubt and that's certainly fine.

I am gonna reiterate the incontroverible fact that the old 'Bernie is a racist' handful of loud posters never represented the views of the majority of DU posters. So I hope you will be a little more cautious about implying/insinuating that the majority of DU'ers subscribed to that ridiculous notion. Of course that's just my hope so do what you wish.

Appreciate your time and have a good weekend.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
99. Pretending a subjective perception is an "incontrovertible fact" seems an irrational statement
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:21 PM
Aug 2016

Pretending a subjective perception is an "incontrovertible fact" seems an irrational statement, predicated on bias and a dramatic redefinition of the words "incontrovertible" and "fact."

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
102. hardly
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 08:37 PM
Aug 2016

and particularly easy for those who tried to pin the racism charge on him and/or his supporters already

it would likely only be denied or disputed by those guilty of the charge, but unsuccessfully so.

fact
fakt/
noun
noun: fact; plural noun: facts

a thing that is indisputably the case.
"she lacks political experience—a fact that becomes clear when she appears in public"
synonyms: reality, actuality, certainty;

I didn't say it would ONLY be done by those described, just that it was easier for them given prior guilt of it (issuing baseless if not blatantly false racism charges) and the likely inclination to seek that guilt again and unabashedly so at every opportunity

"irrational" is butting in/ankle biting with irrelevant nonsense that in no way undermines the point made



yurbud

(39,405 posts)
98. This is the headline: Sanders’ Former Press Secretary Says She Experienced Racism On The Trail
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jul 2016

Was it different earlier?

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
65. This headline is very misleading and should be changed
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 06:02 AM
Jul 2016

That is hasn't been seems to be because it was meant to be misleading.

newthinking

(3,982 posts)
21. You did not include all of her discussion of this - Here
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jul 2016

Her point was not a slam on the Sanders campaign:

Senator Sanders found out about it later, and he and his wife, Jane, were horrified. They knew it was plain old racism and nothing else. During his speech that night, he spent a little extra time on the part about race relations in America and racism. It made me feel really great to know that I was working for somebody that in that instance, got it.

This all goes to show that we have come so far in so many places in our American life, but in politics we still have some ways to go in terms of staffing and representation on various levels. Not only do we need more women and more people of color in the House, and in the Senate, and in state Houses all across this country, and more women and more people of color in executive office, like the presidency, but we also need to make sure that representation is there on the staff level.

MH: What was it like working with the Sanders campaign specifically? It was so historic.

SS: My first day out on the campaign trail was August 7, the weekend of the anniversary of Michael Brown's death, and my first rally was Seattle. There were about 15,000 people, which is huge. I think political rallies are the best example of what's great about America, because regardless of who the candidate is, the people are coming because they love what this candidate is talking about. They really care about these issues. There are people that are screaming, there are people that are crying, because they're so moved by the message that they hear. We need more people to come out to feel engaged, feel involved, feel fired up about what's going on, and that's what I felt out there on the campaign trail with the senator.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
23. The headline here seems to be deliberately deceptive
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:23 PM
Jul 2016

Creating the mistaken impression that Bernie staffers were the source of the racism, when in fact it was venue staffers.

Symone Sanders has had to clarify this point on Twitter.

lapucelle

(18,265 posts)
32. Buzzfeed is trying to stoke the disunity narrative.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:54 PM
Jul 2016

Glad to see that Symone Sanders shut that narrative down in her tweet.

And thank you Ms. Sanders for building bridges between the Sanders and Clinton wings of the party by setting the record straight.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
25. Thanks, we're restricted to posting only four paragraphs of copyrighted material by...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:24 PM
Jul 2016

the DU TOS. We're also not allowed to post the remainder of the story in comments.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
47. That's why you have to be careful what you select.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:00 PM
Jul 2016

So that you don't accidentally imply that Sanders campaign staff were the racists.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
75. I didn't imply Sen Sanders and/or his campaign are/were racist...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:38 AM
Jul 2016

and never have; I posted a news article from a reliable source. The OP is in total compliance with the TOS; four paragraphs and the exact headline as it was published

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
93. The headline says *She Experienced Blatant Racism From Staffers* not VENUE staffers
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:30 PM
Jul 2016

Nowhere in your excerpt does it say VENUE staffers. Someone just reading your post could easily think that Ms. Symone Sanders was talking about Senator Sanders campaign staffers.

In the case when the first four paragraphs don't tell the story, or in this case imply a continuing meme - "Sanders supporters are racist", you may need to do a -snip-.

You could have posted this instead:

Bernie Sanders’ former national press secretary says she experienced repeated incidents of racism on the campaign trail, and at one point broke down in tears in her car.

In an interview for Lenny, an online newsletter co-founded by Lena Dunham, 26-year-old Symone Sanders (no relation to the Vermont senator) spoke with writer Mikki Halpin and described several instances in which felt she was discriminated against as a high-ranking black female campaign worker.

-snip-

Symone Sanders: There were multiple instances. There were places where I literally I couldn’t get in. I would go to the door, the staff entrance, and people would say, “This is staff only.” I’d have to explain to them that I was staff, and they would question me. I would have to say, “I’m the national press secretary. Did you watch me on the news the other day?” It was consistently happening. There was one week where it happened the entire week.

-snip-

Symone Sanders tweeted Saturday to reiterate that the experiences of racism that she experienced came from venue staff while on the road, and not from the campaign staff that she worked alongside in the Sanders campaign.


"I didn't imply Sen Sanders and/or his campaign are/were racist"

The headline and four paragraphs you selected do that quite easily.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
96. In general, I post the first four paragraphs of every OP I make...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:45 PM
Jul 2016

I'm not going to edit OP's to satisfy you or Clinton supporters. Nice chatting with you; I'm done.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
97. You're aware your post hurts more than it helps and you're not going to change - understood.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:59 PM
Jul 2016
Nice chatting with you


Hmm... can't say the same unfortunately.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
31. Why didn't all staffers have identifying badges?
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jul 2016

Isn't that the norm? A big laminated picture ID card with "STAFF" written on it, attached to a lanyard you wear around your neck. I've worked for a fair number of campaigns, and official staff are usually identified as such. That would have been the very easy and very cheap fix.

How are venue workers to know who is legitimate staff or not, otherwise?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
33. So you don't think her race had anything to do with the incidents she described?
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jul 2016

It was just because she didn't have a laminated staff sign?

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
36. Yes, race did have to do with it. BUT I've had incidents where I've forgotten to put on a badge...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:23 PM
Jul 2016

...and been yelled at that it's only for staff and I'm white. People can react that way if they're looking for a badge and you don't have one on. So I don't think the person asking about badges is out of line or should be snapped at for inquiring about that.

That said, I completely believe that in most of these instances, if she's been white, someone would have asked "Are you staff?" and when she said "yes," taken her word for it. That they assume she wasn't, that they assumed Bernie Sanders would only have white staff members and anyone black couldn't be one of them--leading them to YELL at her (which was wrong to do no matter who she was), was racist.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
53. No
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:03 PM
Jul 2016

I just asked why she didn't have a staff badge. How is some lowly guard or parking lot attendant supposed to know who she, or anybody else for that matter, is? I wouldn't expect them to recognize her. I wouldn't recognize her. I rarely watch cable news. I read newspapers and the Internet.

The way she was treated disrespectfully was most probably due to implicit bias based on race. But I don't blame people for doing their job. They should, however, do it with respect, and equal respect for all.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
54. Understood
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jul 2016

It's not clear whether or not other staff members who were white were treated in the same way. Or if press secretaries from other campaigns had badges of the kind you describe. I'd be curious to know.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
82. That assumes that the white staffers showed credentials to the same venue staff
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jul 2016

and if it were a problem of credentials her request to fellow staffers, that they alert venue staff of her existence, would have been ludicrous.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
35. yep
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:12 PM
Jul 2016

Told you all they had no clue how to be intersectional. I believ every word sh say and hope she writes a tell all book. I will buy it immediately.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
46. That definitely wasn't what she said
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:58 PM
Jul 2016

I would encourage you to read the full interview and also to take note of her recent tweets on the subject.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
55. The least Buzz Feed could do is not try to be purposefully miseading. That shows a complete
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:05 PM
Jul 2016

disregard for journalistic integrity.

Seriously...

Turin_C3PO

(13,996 posts)
89. I wonder though if the venue people
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 04:33 PM
Jul 2016

were even Dems? They could just be random staff not associated with party. Of course either way we know their is racism within our party so it wouldn't surprise me if it was Sanders or Clinton supporters being racist.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
42. What difference does that make? That's totally not the fucking point! Sanders didn't get it...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:47 PM
Jul 2016

...and apparently neither do you.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
45. Did you read the interview?
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:57 PM
Jul 2016
Senator Sanders found out about it later, and he and his wife, Jane, were horrified. They knew it was plain old racism and nothing else. During his speech that night, he spent a little extra time on the part about race relations in America and racism. It made me feel really great to know that I was working for somebody that in that instance, got it.

PaulaFarrell

(1,236 posts)
64. will that be the book wher she tell this?
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 02:45 AM
Jul 2016

Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 44m44 minutes ago
I can't even take a nap without something going left. In the ELLE/LENNY interview, I detailed discrimination I experienced from venue staff

Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 43m43 minutes ago
If you actual read the interview without an ulterior motive, you would know I wasn't talking about campaign staff.

Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 41m41 minutes ago
The staff was amazing. I have never said a disparaging thing about any of my former coworkers because there is nothing disparaging to say.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
41. But he and many of his supporters believe that economic justice is more important than race.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 08:46 PM
Jul 2016

Here's an example of how RACE is much more centrally important than class.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
63. He sees the two as intertwined
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:51 PM
Jul 2016

In his book, he talks about how Republicans use and sow racial divisions to make poor whites fear blacks taking what little they have in order to get people to vote against their economic interests so Republicans can keep their rich friends rich.

Did you read the part of the article where she said that the Senator and his wife were horrified when they learned about this?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
51. They changed the title and substantially updated the article
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:30 PM
Jul 2016

New title is:

Sanders’ Former Press Secretary Says She Experienced Racism On The Trail

Update includes her tweets that I posted above.

Response to think (Reply #57)

Turin_C3PO

(13,996 posts)
90. She makes clear
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 04:36 PM
Jul 2016

It wasn't him or his staff but rather racist venue staff who I guess could be either Republican or dem. Still sucks either way.

JesterCS

(1,827 posts)
58. Amazing considering the other day the Clintonistas
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:27 PM
Jul 2016

We're bad mouthing buzz feed for something against hillary. Cherry picking much?

 

think

(11,641 posts)
60. The headline is completely misleading. Racism is a very sensitive subject and accuracy is vital.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:43 PM
Jul 2016

First of all shame on those individuals who behaved in a racist manor. There needs to be repercussions for such behavior.

Secondly my condolences to Symone Sanders for being treated so disrespectfully and the racism she endured.

Thirdly shame on Buzz Feed for purposefully using racism to exploit for gain and tarnishing the reputation of others.

This thread should be deleted or altered to be respectful of the truth if the OP has an ounce of integrity....

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
66. please self-delete. The headline is a blatant lie
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 06:23 AM
Jul 2016

She experienced these things from venue staff, not Sanders campaign staff

Blue State Bandit

(2,122 posts)
67. Really? More "Berners are Racists" posts on DU?
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 07:58 AM
Jul 2016

Symone Sanders herself knocked this down. The dif here for all to see; by and large, Berners went after the candidate for her perceived faults. But every Berner has been a target of direct and indirect accusations of racism and misogyny. Even after the so called change-over to General Election.



 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
71. Let's see 20,000 emails from the Sanders campaign.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 08:28 AM
Jul 2016

We can find the half-dozen most ill-advised messages that cast the organization in the worst light possible, then spend a week harping on them.

After all, turnabout is fair play.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
79. This is as silly as saying that they can NOT originate among people of color
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:39 AM
Jul 2016

Many significant movements were NOT led by POC, though as they grew they included people of all ethnithity.

This includes most waves of the feminist movement and the gay rights movement. Both led to major changes in society.

If there is a social movement that was created or, more interestingly, that grew because of the prominence of Sanders, it is one against income inequality. Things like paid sick leave and the $15 minimum wage were advocated for before Bernie's run, but he gave issues of that type more visibility. Only time will tell whether people mobilized by Sanders continue to work for a fairer society. For many, this was their first time being politically or publicly engaged.

Now, their first action is in sync with the Clinton campaign. They need to stop Trump. They then need to push their representatives in Congress on these issues where Sanders pushed Clinton to the left.

In 2007, I heard various people including Jesse Jackson speak at Take Back America on the civil rights movement. One theme from the panel was how success depended on BOTH the good work and effort of the administration and some legislators AND the protest movement which moved the country on the issue.

The best result of the 2016 election process might be that Clinton will have an additional force, working on issues dear to them, pushing the country and the Congress, in the direction of making a more just society. It may actually become one factor in making her a successful President.

Also, consider that though Bernie did move HRC to the left on this her own history suggests it was to a place that she was and is comfortable with. Note she did not shift on her foreign policy, other than to shift from differentiating herself from Obama to wrapping her accomplishments into all the Obama accomplishments.

As to POC, they supported the well known, long term candidate that they has known for years. This was not a race where everyone started out equally likely to win. Supporting HRC was where most thought the race would end. In fact, the first implicit decision to be made was whether to even consider an alternative. In the primary, a vote for any candidate should be considered FOR that person rather than against the other.


 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
80. The left half of the country is increasingly non-white
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:55 AM
Jul 2016

We are past the days when people of color just jump on a car being driven by white people.

Movements that do not have organic roots in communities of color will struggle mightily to do the outreach and build the relationships needed to expand beyond their demographic straitjacket.

The two candidates in the primary split white voters 50/50. The winner's margin was due exclusively to winning the non-white vote.

In 2008, the winning primary candidate lost white voters.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
83. Do you disagree that Sanders being there raised the visibility
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jul 2016

Of the minimum wage increase and other income inequality issues?

Not to mention, you speak of the Democratic base. This issue has the potential to win back some poor white men lost to Rrpublicans.

Not to mention, this is an issue that many many good Democrats have held dear and one that HRC can make a core goal. It makes economic sense because the ever increasing income inequality leads to a very unfair, undemocratic country and a worse economy.

It is also consistent with HRC's own history and if she leads change on this, it could be her best legacy - of many opportunities. She could take off from where Obama left off on climate change issues. She could continue his efforts on criminal justice. All of these are very needed.

Note ALL will need the strong, passionate support of people out of government holding elected officials to doing something. Without that no President could do much.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
84. the majority of downscale white men who vote Republican and especially for Trump
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jul 2016

don't vote on policy, they vote on cultural resentment--guns, abortion, race.

If given a choice between someone who will improve their lives, and someone who will give voice to their cultural resentments, they'll choose the latter every time.

In 2012 Obama didn't focus on winning their votes, main thrust was to discourage them from voting period by disqualifying Romney in their eyes. That's the playbook that Democrats are running this year too--stop the bleeding and make the election about how awful Trump is.

Climate change and improving police/community relations are definitely issues Clinton should highlight, because they are important to the actual swing voters out there--culturally tolerant and educated voters. But, those issues tend to further alienate the downscale beta males who line up behind Trump. Try talking to that crowd about Black Lives Matter and see how they react.

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
85. I am not speaking of the election, but having the support to make changes
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:20 PM
Jul 2016

As President. That was why I referenced the civil rights forum where the point was made that both were needed.

I can not think of any change that STARTED from a President without a huge felt need articulated by sctivists.

I fully expect HRC to win and obviously that is what everyone should be focused on, but once she has, I think a legacy of Bernie might be that many more people are focused on issues like income inequality.

I KNOW you can point to many many Democrats making fantastic speeches on the floor of the Senate explaining the problem beautifully. However, very very few people - even fellow Senators - hear the well written arguments. Bernie was heard. The fact that a 74 year old democratic socialist Senator could get about 45 percent of the Democratic vote against a party luminary of at least 25 years shows the power of that issue. He did not win the votes because of his good looks or charismatic personality!


Not everything revolves JUST around winning votes though obviously that is the ONLY issue until November. However, once she is inaugurated the key will be to both support and push her on issues we all consider important.

In fact, that said, this op as it is is counter to our shared goals. It is also against the new rules as it is refighting the primaries where some Clinton people are doubling down that they were right and Bernie supporters, a pretty significant part of the party, are racist.

I have never seen this winner team supporters attacking with a pretty broad brush the supporters of the losing candidate. This even as the rules shifted to be stricter in their favor than 2008 or 2004. This is counterproductive and if it succeeds in getting a lot of Sanders supporters, some here for more than a decade, to leave, this site will be less valuable.

HRC worked hard at t he convention to unite the party, this op revives old accusations that few Sanders supporters agree have merit.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
86. I agree that continuing to grind axes from the primary is particularly
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 12:39 PM
Jul 2016

stupid for people whose candidate won.

Trying to portray Sanders supporters as racist is not helpful at this point.

At the same time, some of us who supported Clinton want Sanders's ideology to catch on. And that extends beyond merely identifying the problems. Even the Koch brothers (!!!) recognize that income and wealth inequality is a national problem.

The question is whether the movement or the candidate have a viable plan to solve the problems.

I don't see this particular story as showing that Sanders supporters are or were racists during the primary. Rather, stressing that the lesson that needs to be learned is that a movement needs to have organic roots in communities of color if it's going to succeed in winning significant support in those communities. Otherwise, there are going to be invisible walls that stunt its growth.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
105. Of course you matter. But, you need people of color to get anything done.
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:04 PM
Aug 2016

And to get people from a community involved in your fights, it's not enough to ask them to follow. Gotta get them involved from the very first moments.



 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
77. Whoever wrote that headline should face discipline FOR CONVEYING
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 09:05 AM
Jul 2016

EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what Ms. Sanders actually said, I.e.. venue personnel, not "staffers".

WTF????

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
81. "Sanders’ Former Press Secretary Says She Experienced Racism On The Trail"
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 10:25 AM
Jul 2016

That's the current headline of the article (which has been significantly revised).

Turin_C3PO

(13,996 posts)
88. Not Sanders campaign staff
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 04:28 PM
Jul 2016

But Dem Venue staff. Doesn't change the fact that this behavior is despicable in our party whoever is doing it.

 

JackRiddler

(24,979 posts)
103. Please correct this LYING HEADLINE - as Buzzfeed already did.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:10 PM
Aug 2016

Symone Sanders says the OPPOSITE of what this intentionally propagandistic, misleading headline says. Sanders staff did not act this way, venue staff did.

And since when is Buzzfeed an LBN source?

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