Bernie Sanders’ Former Press Secretary Says She Experienced Blatant Racism From Staffers
Source: BuzzFeed
In an interview for online newsletter Lenny, Symone Sanders said the Vermont senator was horrified when she told him about her experience.
posted on Jul. 30, 2016, at 5:10 p.m.
Tamerra Griffin
BuzzFeed News Reporter
Bernie Sanders former national press secretary says she experienced repeated incidents of racism from other staff while on the campaign trail, and at one point broke down in tears in her car.
In an interview for Lenny, an online newsletter co-founded by Lena Dunham, 26-year-old Symone Sanders (no relation to the Vermont senator) spoke with writer Mikki Halpin and described several instances in which felt she was discriminated against as a high-ranking black female campaign worker.
Symone Sanders: There were multiple instances. There were places where I literally I couldnt get in. I would go to the door, the staff entrance, and people would say, This is staff only. Id have to explain to them that I was staff, and they would question me. I would have to say, Im the national press secretary. Did you watch me on the news the other day? It was consistently happening. There was one week where it happened the entire week.
-snip-
Read more: https://www.buzzfeed.com/tamerragriffin/symone-sanders-discusses-racism?utm_term=.ifMyxxm22#.ce6RddyKK
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)lapucelle
(18,265 posts)It was from venue personnel, so I don't see this as a Democratic party unity issue.
newthinking
(3,982 posts)So buzzfeed deliberately misrepresented the interview with the headline and topic line. And made Symone have to defend her words. Why is this shit continuing here?
Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 44m44 minutes ago
I can't even take a nap without something going left. In the ELLE/LENNY interview, I detailed discrimination I experienced from venue staff
Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 43m43 minutes ago
If you actual read the interview without an ulterior motive, you would know I wasn't talking about campaign staff.
Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 41m41 minutes ago
The staff was amazing. I have never said a disparaging thing about any of my former coworkers because there is nothing disparaging to say.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)lapucelle
(18,265 posts)It seemed to me that Hoyt was implying that Democrats were behind the racism. I was responding to his point.
It was a specific response to a specific comment by a specific person. It wasn't a general observation.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)OwlinAZ
(410 posts)Don't
rjsquirrel
(4,762 posts)That's really disappointing to hear from her however/. She's a class act.
Turin_C3PO
(13,996 posts)Not that Dems can't be just as racist.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Here is a link directly to the interview in case people want to avoid giving Buzzfeed the clicks:
http://www.lennyletter.com/politics/interviews/a482/no-relation/
Symone Sanders is very much on board the Hillary train!
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)news sites? The link to the Lenny site is in the second paragraph of the OP
oberliner
(58,724 posts)But people are welcome to click on the link you provided as well - just offering another alternative, direct to the interview.
Edit to add: This particular headline sort of gives the impression that the racism came from Sanders staffers rather than venue staffers.
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)Is that a problem? Does it undermine Symone Sanders' credibility somehow?
A little confused by your post.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Of course it's not a problem - it's great!
I was just saying that after reading the whole interview with her, I was struck by her passionate support for Hillary!
think
(11,641 posts)What happened to Symone Sanders is completely deplorable.
But using misleading headlines to exploit acts of racism is also deplorable.
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)it gets old real fast. Huffington Post, Talking Points Memo, RawStory, the Daily Beast, The Hill, etc, etc.
The Washington Post puts their click bait into the email alerts they send out.
Click bait frequently makes my job a royal pain in the butt.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Every journalism outlet seems to be moving in that direction.
Buzzfeed, though, has always seemed pretty explicit about being focused more on generating clicks than anything else.
But, you are right, it is everywhere.
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)Annoying as hell to me. But that's how they make money, unfortunately.
I will say as an old guy I never have liked headlines. So truncated they never really represent the story.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,328 posts)I used to really enjoy Photography is Not a Crime but it has become COMPLETELY unbearable. You can't scroll a page without accidentally opening some bullshit ads. I know they have to pay the bills but come on.
think
(11,641 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)after the fact.
think
(11,641 posts)Thanks. That's really cool of you.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)the OP has been posted in total compliance with the DU TOS
oberliner
(58,724 posts)She makes this clear on Twitter:
Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 44m44 minutes ago
I can't even take a nap without something going left. In the ELLE/LENNY interview, I detailed discrimination I experienced from venue staff
Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 43m43 minutes ago
If you actual read the interview without an ulterior motive, you would know I wasn't talking about campaign staff.
Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 41m41 minutes ago
The staff was amazing. I have never said a disparaging thing about any of my former coworkers because there is nothing disparaging to say.
pnwmom
(108,978 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)The Buzzfeed article adds information here that is not true. Specifically, that the incident described took place "at a campaign building" which, if you read the interview, it very clearly did not.
Did you read the actual interview? If not, I would encourage you to do so.
MgtPA
(1,022 posts)Just read the whole article including the comments, not the campaign.
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)Sanders primary supporter here. Feel campaign was full of blunders.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)See my post of her tweets above.
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)thank you
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I think she is great and am impressed with her in every way.
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)Saw yr clarification and edited. Thank you so much for taking the time to reply.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)Sanders and his campaign got about 45 percent of the vote - in spite of the expectation being closer to 4.5!
Consider O'malley.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,234 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)See my post of her tweets above.
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)anything to keep the now long used racism charge alive
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)due to the unqualified "staffer" designation?
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)I made it, got clarification, read the interview, now I know better. All DU'ers aren't 'evil,' sometimes they are just human and fallible
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)and particularly easy for those who tried to pin the racism charge on him and/or his supporters already
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)stupidicus
(2,570 posts)own whatever your conscience will in response to it
emulatorloo
(44,124 posts)Some posts I read these past few months do indeed fit your description
But I've also seen plenty of posts that were misinterpreted as saying 'Sanders is a racist' when they were actually posts giving great suggestions/strategies to how to improve outreach to AA voters.
So I am gonna say the way race was talked about here these last few months is not as simple as you describe it. Complicated, messy, and often hard to fathom what was going on
One thing I can say w certainty, I know the vast majority of posters here know that there is not a racist bone in Bernie's body. Lots of pushback on those who said he was from supporters of all our fine candidates
Primary's over, so not going to refight those battles again beyond what I've just written.
--
As to this particular thread, I'm willing to give people the benefit of the doubt. I was a Bernie primary supporter and I read the OP too quickly. I know I'm not the only one that was taken in by the poor headline. I really like Symone Sanders and I did not do my due diligence. I needed to read the full interview which I have done now.
You aren't willing to give people the benefit of the doubt and that's certainly fine.
I am gonna reiterate the incontroverible fact that the old 'Bernie is a racist' handful of loud posters never represented the views of the majority of DU posters. So I hope you will be a little more cautious about implying/insinuating that the majority of DU'ers subscribed to that ridiculous notion. Of course that's just my hope so do what you wish.
Appreciate your time and have a good weekend.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Pretending a subjective perception is an "incontrovertible fact" seems an irrational statement, predicated on bias and a dramatic redefinition of the words "incontrovertible" and "fact."
stupidicus
(2,570 posts)and particularly easy for those who tried to pin the racism charge on him and/or his supporters already
it would likely only be denied or disputed by those guilty of the charge, but unsuccessfully so.
fact
fakt/
noun
noun: fact; plural noun: facts
a thing that is indisputably the case.
"she lacks political experiencea fact that becomes clear when she appears in public"
synonyms: reality, actuality, certainty;
I didn't say it would ONLY be done by those described, just that it was easier for them given prior guilt of it (issuing baseless if not blatantly false racism charges) and the likely inclination to seek that guilt again and unabashedly so at every opportunity
"irrational" is butting in/ankle biting with irrelevant nonsense that in no way undermines the point made
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Was it different earlier?
adigal
(7,581 posts)That is hasn't been seems to be because it was meant to be misleading.
methinks you're right about that one
OwlinAZ
(410 posts)newthinking
(3,982 posts)Her point was not a slam on the Sanders campaign:
Senator Sanders found out about it later, and he and his wife, Jane, were horrified. They knew it was plain old racism and nothing else. During his speech that night, he spent a little extra time on the part about race relations in America and racism. It made me feel really great to know that I was working for somebody that in that instance, got it.
This all goes to show that we have come so far in so many places in our American life, but in politics we still have some ways to go in terms of staffing and representation on various levels. Not only do we need more women and more people of color in the House, and in the Senate, and in state Houses all across this country, and more women and more people of color in executive office, like the presidency, but we also need to make sure that representation is there on the staff level.
MH: What was it like working with the Sanders campaign specifically? It was so historic.
SS: My first day out on the campaign trail was August 7, the weekend of the anniversary of Michael Brown's death, and my first rally was Seattle. There were about 15,000 people, which is huge. I think political rallies are the best example of what's great about America, because regardless of who the candidate is, the people are coming because they love what this candidate is talking about. They really care about these issues. There are people that are screaming, there are people that are crying, because they're so moved by the message that they hear. We need more people to come out to feel engaged, feel involved, feel fired up about what's going on, and that's what I felt out there on the campaign trail with the senator.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Creating the mistaken impression that Bernie staffers were the source of the racism, when in fact it was venue staffers.
Symone Sanders has had to clarify this point on Twitter.
lapucelle
(18,265 posts)Glad to see that Symone Sanders shut that narrative down in her tweet.
And thank you Ms. Sanders for building bridges between the Sanders and Clinton wings of the party by setting the record straight.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)the DU TOS. We're also not allowed to post the remainder of the story in comments.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)So that you don't accidentally imply that Sanders campaign staff were the racists.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)and never have; I posted a news article from a reliable source. The OP is in total compliance with the TOS; four paragraphs and the exact headline as it was published
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)Nowhere in your excerpt does it say VENUE staffers. Someone just reading your post could easily think that Ms. Symone Sanders was talking about Senator Sanders campaign staffers.
In the case when the first four paragraphs don't tell the story, or in this case imply a continuing meme - "Sanders supporters are racist", you may need to do a -snip-.
You could have posted this instead:
In an interview for Lenny, an online newsletter co-founded by Lena Dunham, 26-year-old Symone Sanders (no relation to the Vermont senator) spoke with writer Mikki Halpin and described several instances in which felt she was discriminated against as a high-ranking black female campaign worker.
-snip-
Symone Sanders: There were multiple instances. There were places where I literally I couldnt get in. I would go to the door, the staff entrance, and people would say, This is staff only. Id have to explain to them that I was staff, and they would question me. I would have to say, Im the national press secretary. Did you watch me on the news the other day? It was consistently happening. There was one week where it happened the entire week.
-snip-
Symone Sanders tweeted Saturday to reiterate that the experiences of racism that she experienced came from venue staff while on the road, and not from the campaign staff that she worked alongside in the Sanders campaign.
"I didn't imply Sen Sanders and/or his campaign are/were racist"
The headline and four paragraphs you selected do that quite easily.
DonViejo
(60,536 posts)That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)DonViejo
(60,536 posts)I'm not going to edit OP's to satisfy you or Clinton supporters. Nice chatting with you; I'm done.
That Guy 888
(1,214 posts)Hmm... can't say the same unfortunately.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)Isn't that the norm? A big laminated picture ID card with "STAFF" written on it, attached to a lanyard you wear around your neck. I've worked for a fair number of campaigns, and official staff are usually identified as such. That would have been the very easy and very cheap fix.
How are venue workers to know who is legitimate staff or not, otherwise?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It was just because she didn't have a laminated staff sign?
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...and been yelled at that it's only for staff and I'm white. People can react that way if they're looking for a badge and you don't have one on. So I don't think the person asking about badges is out of line or should be snapped at for inquiring about that.
That said, I completely believe that in most of these instances, if she's been white, someone would have asked "Are you staff?" and when she said "yes," taken her word for it. That they assume she wasn't, that they assumed Bernie Sanders would only have white staff members and anyone black couldn't be one of them--leading them to YELL at her (which was wrong to do no matter who she was), was racist.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I agree with your assessment.
I just asked why she didn't have a staff badge. How is some lowly guard or parking lot attendant supposed to know who she, or anybody else for that matter, is? I wouldn't expect them to recognize her. I wouldn't recognize her. I rarely watch cable news. I read newspapers and the Internet.
The way she was treated disrespectfully was most probably due to implicit bias based on race. But I don't blame people for doing their job. They should, however, do it with respect, and equal respect for all.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)It's not clear whether or not other staff members who were white were treated in the same way. Or if press secretaries from other campaigns had badges of the kind you describe. I'd be curious to know.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)and if it were a problem of credentials her request to fellow staffers, that they alert venue staff of her existence, would have been ludicrous.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Told you all they had no clue how to be intersectional. I believ every word sh say and hope she writes a tell all book. I will buy it immediately.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Not Sanders staffers.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I would encourage you to read the full interview and also to take note of her recent tweets on the subject.
think
(11,641 posts)disregard for journalistic integrity.
Seriously...
Turin_C3PO
(13,996 posts)were even Dems? They could just be random staff not associated with party. Of course either way we know their is racism within our party so it wouldn't surprise me if it was Sanders or Clinton supporters being racist.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)...and apparently neither do you.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)PaulaFarrell
(1,236 posts)Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 44m44 minutes ago
I can't even take a nap without something going left. In the ELLE/LENNY interview, I detailed discrimination I experienced from venue staff
Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 43m43 minutes ago
If you actual read the interview without an ulterior motive, you would know I wasn't talking about campaign staff.
Symone D. Sanders ?@SymoneDSanders 41m41 minutes ago
The staff was amazing. I have never said a disparaging thing about any of my former coworkers because there is nothing disparaging to say.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Here's an example of how RACE is much more centrally important than class.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)In his book, he talks about how Republicans use and sow racial divisions to make poor whites fear blacks taking what little they have in order to get people to vote against their economic interests so Republicans can keep their rich friends rich.
Did you read the part of the article where she said that the Senator and his wife were horrified when they learned about this?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)New title is:
Sanders Former Press Secretary Says She Experienced Racism On The Trail
Update includes her tweets that I posted above.
George II
(67,782 posts)think
(11,641 posts)Response to think (Reply #57)
think This message was self-deleted by its author.
Turin_C3PO
(13,996 posts)It wasn't him or his staff but rather racist venue staff who I guess could be either Republican or dem. Still sucks either way.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)JesterCS
(1,827 posts)We're bad mouthing buzz feed for something against hillary. Cherry picking much?
think
(11,641 posts)First of all shame on those individuals who behaved in a racist manor. There needs to be repercussions for such behavior.
Secondly my condolences to Symone Sanders for being treated so disrespectfully and the racism she endured.
Thirdly shame on Buzz Feed for purposefully using racism to exploit for gain and tarnishing the reputation of others.
This thread should be deleted or altered to be respectful of the truth if the OP has an ounce of integrity....
uhnope
(6,419 posts)She experienced these things from venue staff, not Sanders campaign staff
Blue State Bandit
(2,122 posts)Symone Sanders herself knocked this down. The dif here for all to see; by and large, Berners went after the candidate for her perceived faults. But every Berner has been a target of direct and indirect accusations of racism and misogyny. Even after the so called change-over to General Election.
Vinca
(50,273 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)We can find the half-dozen most ill-advised messages that cast the organization in the worst light possible, then spend a week harping on them.
After all, turnabout is fair play.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Otherwise this happens.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)Many significant movements were NOT led by POC, though as they grew they included people of all ethnithity.
This includes most waves of the feminist movement and the gay rights movement. Both led to major changes in society.
If there is a social movement that was created or, more interestingly, that grew because of the prominence of Sanders, it is one against income inequality. Things like paid sick leave and the $15 minimum wage were advocated for before Bernie's run, but he gave issues of that type more visibility. Only time will tell whether people mobilized by Sanders continue to work for a fairer society. For many, this was their first time being politically or publicly engaged.
Now, their first action is in sync with the Clinton campaign. They need to stop Trump. They then need to push their representatives in Congress on these issues where Sanders pushed Clinton to the left.
In 2007, I heard various people including Jesse Jackson speak at Take Back America on the civil rights movement. One theme from the panel was how success depended on BOTH the good work and effort of the administration and some legislators AND the protest movement which moved the country on the issue.
The best result of the 2016 election process might be that Clinton will have an additional force, working on issues dear to them, pushing the country and the Congress, in the direction of making a more just society. It may actually become one factor in making her a successful President.
Also, consider that though Bernie did move HRC to the left on this her own history suggests it was to a place that she was and is comfortable with. Note she did not shift on her foreign policy, other than to shift from differentiating herself from Obama to wrapping her accomplishments into all the Obama accomplishments.
As to POC, they supported the well known, long term candidate that they has known for years. This was not a race where everyone started out equally likely to win. Supporting HRC was where most thought the race would end. In fact, the first implicit decision to be made was whether to even consider an alternative. In the primary, a vote for any candidate should be considered FOR that person rather than against the other.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)We are past the days when people of color just jump on a car being driven by white people.
Movements that do not have organic roots in communities of color will struggle mightily to do the outreach and build the relationships needed to expand beyond their demographic straitjacket.
The two candidates in the primary split white voters 50/50. The winner's margin was due exclusively to winning the non-white vote.
In 2008, the winning primary candidate lost white voters.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)Of the minimum wage increase and other income inequality issues?
Not to mention, you speak of the Democratic base. This issue has the potential to win back some poor white men lost to Rrpublicans.
Not to mention, this is an issue that many many good Democrats have held dear and one that HRC can make a core goal. It makes economic sense because the ever increasing income inequality leads to a very unfair, undemocratic country and a worse economy.
It is also consistent with HRC's own history and if she leads change on this, it could be her best legacy - of many opportunities. She could take off from where Obama left off on climate change issues. She could continue his efforts on criminal justice. All of these are very needed.
Note ALL will need the strong, passionate support of people out of government holding elected officials to doing something. Without that no President could do much.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)don't vote on policy, they vote on cultural resentment--guns, abortion, race.
If given a choice between someone who will improve their lives, and someone who will give voice to their cultural resentments, they'll choose the latter every time.
In 2012 Obama didn't focus on winning their votes, main thrust was to discourage them from voting period by disqualifying Romney in their eyes. That's the playbook that Democrats are running this year too--stop the bleeding and make the election about how awful Trump is.
Climate change and improving police/community relations are definitely issues Clinton should highlight, because they are important to the actual swing voters out there--culturally tolerant and educated voters. But, those issues tend to further alienate the downscale beta males who line up behind Trump. Try talking to that crowd about Black Lives Matter and see how they react.
karynnj
(59,503 posts)As President. That was why I referenced the civil rights forum where the point was made that both were needed.
I can not think of any change that STARTED from a President without a huge felt need articulated by sctivists.
I fully expect HRC to win and obviously that is what everyone should be focused on, but once she has, I think a legacy of Bernie might be that many more people are focused on issues like income inequality.
I KNOW you can point to many many Democrats making fantastic speeches on the floor of the Senate explaining the problem beautifully. However, very very few people - even fellow Senators - hear the well written arguments. Bernie was heard. The fact that a 74 year old democratic socialist Senator could get about 45 percent of the Democratic vote against a party luminary of at least 25 years shows the power of that issue. He did not win the votes because of his good looks or charismatic personality!
Not everything revolves JUST around winning votes though obviously that is the ONLY issue until November. However, once she is inaugurated the key will be to both support and push her on issues we all consider important.
In fact, that said, this op as it is is counter to our shared goals. It is also against the new rules as it is refighting the primaries where some Clinton people are doubling down that they were right and Bernie supporters, a pretty significant part of the party, are racist.
I have never seen this winner team supporters attacking with a pretty broad brush the supporters of the losing candidate. This even as the rules shifted to be stricter in their favor than 2008 or 2004. This is counterproductive and if it succeeds in getting a lot of Sanders supporters, some here for more than a decade, to leave, this site will be less valuable.
HRC worked hard at t he convention to unite the party, this op revives old accusations that few Sanders supporters agree have merit.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)stupid for people whose candidate won.
Trying to portray Sanders supporters as racist is not helpful at this point.
At the same time, some of us who supported Clinton want Sanders's ideology to catch on. And that extends beyond merely identifying the problems. Even the Koch brothers (!!!) recognize that income and wealth inequality is a national problem.
The question is whether the movement or the candidate have a viable plan to solve the problems.
I don't see this particular story as showing that Sanders supporters are or were racists during the primary. Rather, stressing that the lesson that needs to be learned is that a movement needs to have organic roots in communities of color if it's going to succeed in winning significant support in those communities. Otherwise, there are going to be invisible walls that stunt its growth.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)And to get people from a community involved in your fights, it's not enough to ask them to follow. Gotta get them involved from the very first moments.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE of what Ms. Sanders actually said, I.e.. venue personnel, not "staffers".
WTF????
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That's the current headline of the article (which has been significantly revised).
Arazi
(6,829 posts)Turin_C3PO
(13,996 posts)But Dem Venue staff. Doesn't change the fact that this behavior is despicable in our party whoever is doing it.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Symone Sanders says the OPPOSITE of what this intentionally propagandistic, misleading headline says. Sanders staff did not act this way, venue staff did.
And since when is Buzzfeed an LBN source?