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Norbert

(6,038 posts)
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 03:42 PM Sep 2016

Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates Says Trump Is ‘Beyond Repair’

Source: huffingtonpost.com

WASHINGTON ― Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates, who has served both Republican and Democratic presidents, sharply criticized Republican nominee Donald Trump’s ability to lead the United States, writing that the business mogul was “beyond repair” when it came to national security.

“At least on national security, I believe Mr. Trump is beyond repair. He is stubbornly uninformed about the world and how to lead our country and government, and temperamentally unsuited to lead our men and women in uniform. He is unqualified and unfit to be commander-in-chief,” Gates wrote in a Wall Street Journal op-ed published Friday evening.

Gates wrote that Trump was clueless when it came to the American military and foreign policy. Trump has praised Russian President Vladimir Putin repeatedly, threatened to not defend NATO countries, said he would “bomb the shit” out of ISIS and seemed unfamiliar with Russia’s annexation of Crimea.


Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/robert-gates-donald-trump-national-security_us_57dd63b4e4b08cb1409622ee?section=&

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Former Defense Secretary Robert Gates Says Trump Is ‘Beyond Repair’ (Original Post) Norbert Sep 2016 OP
Ahh... this is why he went on a twitter frenzy about Gates. nt BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #1
Beyond repair? I can't believe that DFW Sep 2016 #2
Narcissist/Borderline cases are notoriously difficult to treat librechik Sep 2016 #10
I guess he would be kind of a challenge at that DFW Sep 2016 #11
oooh, turning green right now! librechik Sep 2016 #15
A modest shade of Granny Smith is permitted! DFW Sep 2016 #16
Reality SCVDem Sep 2016 #3
Trump inspired Hillary's mental health reform proposals. nt Lucky Luciano Sep 2016 #4
New trump theme: Trump is reality-challenged truthisfreedom Sep 2016 #5
Trump is mentally ill. kwassa Sep 2016 #6
Personality disorders dog_lovin_dem Sep 2016 #7
He also fits the criteria for Antisocial Personality Disorder jmowreader Sep 2016 #8
They are. FigTree Sep 2016 #13
Mental illness are treatable. Personality disorders generally are not meow2u3 Sep 2016 #14
Campaign Against Him erpowers Sep 2016 #9
K&R Gothmog Sep 2016 #12

DFW

(54,302 posts)
2. Beyond repair? I can't believe that
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 04:21 PM
Sep 2016

Surely, Trump has nothing that two years on a fat farm with hours of daily psychotherapy can't repair.

Have a little faith in the medical profession!

librechik

(30,674 posts)
10. Narcissist/Borderline cases are notoriously difficult to treat
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 11:31 AM
Sep 2016

N/Bs don't think there's anything wrong with them. It's everybody else that needs fixing.

N/Bs think they're smarter and better than any psychiatrist alive, and it's too bad they don't listen to N/B's genius theories. If they'd follow N/Bs advice they could cure the world.

N/Bs don't believe anything anyone else says, even if it's meant to help. If N/B doesn't
like it, whatever is said to him about his condition is an evil lie, and the person who said it is the enemy FOREVER.

In treatment,(which rarely happens short of a court order) N/Bs forget all the progress they may have made from session to session and therapist has to start over from the beginning, trying to convince N/B that he has a problem and it hurts others. He doesn't care about others getting hurt, that's their fault for not being more like N/B. They are the sick ones.

(yup, dealing with that too long in my personal life!)

DFW

(54,302 posts)
11. I guess he would be kind of a challenge at that
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 01:39 PM
Sep 2016

Like the Dalí avatar, by the way. I once got to meet and even entertain him way back when I was a teenager living in Barcelona.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
16. A modest shade of Granny Smith is permitted!
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:19 PM
Sep 2016

I'll bet there aren't too many on DU who actually met Dalí!

I THINK there are one or two other Catalan-speakers, but I don't know if they're still here.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
3. Reality
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 04:48 PM
Sep 2016

tRump has never experienced true reality.

Life has always had a safety net for him.

He has never had to truly endure hard failure. Soul crushing failure.

OR, the personal growth one gains from coming back and succeeding.

He is a 0.2%. Just go away!

dog_lovin_dem

(309 posts)
7. Personality disorders
Sat Sep 17, 2016, 07:38 PM
Sep 2016

are not considered mental illnesses. He fits the criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

FigTree

(347 posts)
13. They are.
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 02:17 PM
Sep 2016

PD's common feature is that the signs, symptoms and behaviors of concern are "ego-syntonic", meaning that they are not perceived as problems by the individual. As a logical result, PD individuals are always referred by others, not themselves. PDs are grouped in clusters. Cluster "B" encompasses histrionic, borderline, narcissistic and antisocial PDs and individuals belonging to this cluster are typically mixing features from any of those, with one that sometimes tend to dominate. In the pig's case, I would go for an histrionic dominance, with well-defined narcissistic and antisocial traits. There is an ongoing, subtext in his verbalization that compulsively refers to power, masculinity, seduction, fantasies of domination that have a strong, if covert and encoded, sexual flavor. Diagnosis of PD rests essentially on a record of signs, symptoms and behaviors and the longest the record, the more accurate the diagnosis. Medications have no effect on PD individuals. They hate psychotherapy. If they sit in a group of any kind, they will spoil it very rapidly.
Overall, PDs are bad news for providers and I personally consider them as deeply rooted in very early history and almost as difficult to deal with as psychoses.

meow2u3

(24,759 posts)
14. Mental illness are treatable. Personality disorders generally are not
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:03 PM
Sep 2016

Not in a 70-year-old, at least. If Trump had a mental illness, he could take medication for it and could end up functioning within the normal range, or at worst, act what was formerly known as "eccentric."

But personality disorders are an entirely different animal. These people don't think there's anything wrong with them, despite their disturbed, ingrained personality traits. Someone who has Narcissistic Personality Disorder and/or Antisocial Personality Disorder can, and often do, leave destruction and ruin in their wake without any compunction at all.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
9. Campaign Against Him
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:34 AM
Sep 2016

If Robert Gates thinks Donald Trump is "beyond repair" on national security issues he should campaign against him. He should go to Republican enclaves and tell them why, for this election, they must break from their party and vote for Hillary Clinton. It is not enough for Republicans like Robert Gates to say that Donald Trump is not qualified to be President. They must get off the sidelines and make the case against Donald Trump.

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