Trump claims NY explosion was a bomb without confirmation

[riversedge]

Source: The Hill




September 17, 2016, 09:20 Trump claims NY explosion was a bomb without confirmation

By Evelyn Rupert


Donald Trump, taking the podium at a rally in Colorado Springs, announced to the crowd that a bomb had exploded in New York. But it was at that point unclear what caused explosion that injured 29 people.

"Just before I got off the plane, a bomb went off in New York and nobody knows exactly what’s going on, but, boy we are really in a time. We better get very tough, folks," Trump said. "It’s a terrible thing that’s going on in our world and in our country and we are going to get tough and smart and vigilant. We’ll see what it is.”

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Around 11:45 p.m., Hillary Clinton responded to the incident as she was fielding questions from press on her plane. She said she had been briefed on the situation and had been in touch with the mayor's office.

But she said aside from supporting first responders and victims, Clinton said she would "have more to say about it when we actually have some facts." ......................................



Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/296490-trump-claims-ny-explosion-was-a-bomb

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Cnn also just showed Hillary responding. She did great when asked this question: Note the contrast with Trumpy jumping to conclusions!!

From OP
Asked about Trump's hasty response, Clinton said: "I think it's important to know the facts about any incident like this."



EDIT TO ADD another Tweet:

Dan Merica ?@danmericaCNN 47m47 minutes ago

Re: Trump, Clinton said, "I think it is always wiser to wait until you have information before making conclusions."







Also:






.....................President Barack Obama has been briefed on the situation following his remarks at the Black Congressional Caucus Gala.

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton was also briefed on the incident.
Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton was also briefed on the incident. She said: 'We need to do everything we can to support our first responders. We have to pray for the victims'
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Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton was also briefed on the incident. She said: 'We need to do everything we can to support our first responders. We have to pray for the victims'
Donald Trump had a very different response when asked about the incident in Chelsea. He took the stage in Colorado and declared the incident to be the work of a 'bomb'. 'A bomb went off in New York and no one knows what's going on. We've got to get very tough folks,' he said




She said: 'We need to do everything we can to support our first responders. We have to pray for the victims

'We have been in touch with authorities in New York City. And I will have more to say about it when we have more information, Clinton said.

Donald Trump had a very different response when asked about the incident in Chelsea.

He took the stage in Colorado and declared the incident to be the work of a 'bomb'.

'A bomb went off in New York and no one knows what's going on. We've got to get very tough folks,' he said.
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3794824/Explosion-reported-Manhattan.html#ixzz4KZv902qm

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. Won't he have egg on his face if it turns out to be a gas explosion

or a bunch of kids blowing up shit for fun?

[Major Nikon]

6. Gas explosions don't tend to mangle trash bins

Not sure how much the orange dipshit knew at the time, but seems to be a safe bet it was a bomb.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. OK, I didn't know the details. Still, he shouldn't be shooting off his mouth -

but that's what he does, isn't it? Opens his yap before he knows anything.

[Major Nikon]

20. Agreed, it's just another reason why he'd be a national embarrassment as presidunce

As if we needed more examples.

[democrattotheend]

7. Unfortunately NYPD has ruled that out

[cstanleytech]

28. The odds are it was a bomb and I am willing to wager it was set by some asshole Trump supporters

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trying to influence the election in their delusional mind.

[onehandle]

2. He sure seems to know a lot about it.

One of his gangster connections doing him a solid?

[Skittles]

12. nice neighborhood

it would.....be a shame if anything happened to it

[Farmgirl1961]

22. Exactly

If he's so certain it was a bomb -- he must have inside information that nobody else has. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Trump sympathizer or something else more nefarious to give him an edge of his "law and order" campaign.

[procon]

3. In stark contrast, Hillary was dignified and responded calmly.

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton was also briefed on the incident. She said: 'We need to do everything we can to support our first responders. We have to pray for the victims'

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3794824/Explosion-reported-Manhattan.html#ixzz4KZooGA4j

[riversedge]

11. Now that is a Hillary kind of response we can expect (and we got)....

Another reporter Tweet:

Monica Alba ?@albamonica 30m30 minutes ago

HRC on Trump referring to NYC "bomb" at CO rally: "I think it’s always wiser to wait until you have information before making conclusions"

[metroins]

4. It seems to be a bomb

I wouldn't try to push this story, he looks like he's right.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

10. It could be a bomb without being an act of terrorism by ISIL

which is what Trump assumes it to be.

[riversedge]

13. Trump jumped to conclusions --but I do see

your point.

[scscholar]

5. There is no evidence the bomb was a bomb

To claim a bomb was a bomb is illogical.

[marshall]

54. Is bombings the same thing as a bonb?

There is nuance in language, surely, but I'm trying to figure out how the two are different. I agree that this isn't an issue that leads to a fruitful outcome.

[B2G]

9. It wasn't a gas explosion.

It was a bomb. I don't understand why this topic is even being discussed.

[Zynx]

14. Because there was no confirmation of that when he said it.

No one had confirmed that it was anything in particular. Gas explosions in NYC have been fairly common and at the time it occurred it couldn't be ruled out.

[EL34x4]

50. Good grief, anyone with half a brain knew it was a bomb.

Now it is just a matter of who did it.

[Zynx]

58. At the time he spoke it was simply reported as an explosion.

Not every explosion is a bomb.

[EL34x4]

59. Well, this explosion was a bomb

So are we supposed to criticize Trump for calling a bomb a bomb before it was officially declared a bomb when everyone, including Hillary Clinton herself knew it was a bomb?

This story is a big fail.

[Zynx]

60. Initial reports are not wise to act on.

It matters little that he was ultimately correct.

[EL34x4]

61. I'm less concerned that Trump was ultimately correct.

I'm more concerned that people are blowing up bombs.

[riversedge]

16. What topic are you referring to?

[B2G]

18. The OP. On whether or not it was a bomb.

[riversedge]

19. Ok. Thanks. But the point of OP was that Trump told his crowd over 2 plus hours ago...

very premature to say it was a bomb at that point. The police were barely on the scene when Trump made his announcement to the rally crowd.

[Grassy Knoll]

15. Just What The Fuck Does Trump Think He Can Do About This?...

..This Idiot reminds me of a dog wiping his ass on the carpet, But the dog
doesn't know better.

[melman]

17. Mayor de Blasio said it was "an intentional act"

It was obviously a bomb of some kind. Come on.

[B2G]

21. It was intentional. They don't know who did it.

Or why. But it's not terrorism.

And they wonder why people don't believe a word they say.

[vdogg]

38. Could be a unabomber type incident.

Or the Olympic park bomber. I think what they're saying is at this point they see I conection to international terrorism, which judging by the so far crude devices, I would be inclined to agree. The Boston Bombers may be another parallel though. Similar MO. Perhaps we're looking at internationally inspired domestic terrorism.

[Snake Plissken]

23. Trump is doing what he always does in the event of a tragedy

Congratulating himself for the tragedy and celebrating

[Jon King]

24. The point is...

Does not matter if it turns out to be a bomb. Trump can not "be right". At the time he made his comments no one knew what had happened. Thats the point. It could have been a bomb, an accident, construction materials. He again went off with out having enough information.

He obviously is saying it must be Islamic terrorism. Again, we do not know. An angry tenant, a right wing nut, who knows the motives yet.

He can't say bomb and imply Islamic terrorism every time, be right some times, wrong others. You have to be measured and wait for the information.

[Skittles]

36. excellent assessment, Jon King

welcome to DU

[underpants]

26. Welcome to DU

[lastlib]

44. Reichstag fire, 1933........

Falsely blamed on Communists--pivotal event that propelled Hitler to power.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

48. Even if he wanted to, Trump is too incompetent to pull it off. . . . nt

[underthematrix]

29. without confirmation means he knows who set it and why

It's his 5th Ave moment re-imagined #TrumpTerrorism

[forest444]

32. Stands to reason.

One of his mouth-breathing surrogates probably put it there him or herself.

[truthisfreedom]

33. And if it had been gas, after he claimed it was a bomb, his team would have claimed they were

misinformed, and then they would have claimed that the first order of the first day will be to fire the people who misinform leaders about bombs. He's just so predictable. He only knows one story. He's always right, and if he's not right, it's someone else's fault, like when he claimed (falsely) yesterday that Clinton started the birther movement. It's ALWAYS someone else's fault.

[jmowreader]

34. Okay Donald, how did you KNOW it was a bomb?

[spiderpig]

35. Everything this creep does bugs the hell out of me, but he had to open his statement

with "just before I got off the plane..."

Everything has to start with him. Me Me Me I I I.

It's all about him all the time.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

37. Trump sells fear, so of course he will jack up any event and twist it.

Right Wing Authoritarian Followers have a big component of fear in their psychological makeup and that's his base.

He hopes to convince leaners and undecideds with fear.

Thus he always says times are very bad and terrible.

And he always says the solution is to get very tough and vigilant. Think Putin's KGB combined with East German Stassi; everybody spying on everybody and being reactive.

Trump is running to be [font size= "+1"]Big Brother. He is stuck in 1949[/font] when Nineteen Eighty Four was published and when America was great (in his mind). He was three years old, favored son of a bigoted rich man, just forming his memories then.

[Yo_Mama]

39. They found a pressure cooker, didn't they?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-new-york-blast-idUSKCN11O012

Police said a sweep of the neighborhood following the blast had turned up a possible "secondary device" four blocks away consisting of a pressure cooker with wires attached to it and connected to a cell phone.

CNN, citing law enforcement sources, reported that a piece of paper with writing on it was found nearby.

This was a bombing. The identity of the perp(s) is still unknown. Whether it's connected to the NJ bomb is unknown.

[Sunlei]

53. yes, here's a pic of it off i2cdn. Once was mentioned the explosion was a large construction toolbox

[Yo_Mama]

57. So the dumpster bomb was in a construction toolbox?

That's wickedly clever. And people would be less likely to react to the sight of one in public.

I don't like the sound of this. Seems like someone got "inspired".

[randome]

40. Trump is jumpy. Pass it on.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]

[MowCowWhoHow III]

41. Sounds like he was correct

New York City: At least 29 wounded in 'intentional' explosion

At least 29 people have been injured in an explosion in a crowded district of New York City.

The cause of the blast late on Saturday in Chelsea remains unclear. Mayor Bill de Blasio described it as "intentional" but said that there were no known links to terror.

The force of the blast blew out windows and could be heard several blocks away.

Another device, reportedly a pressure cooker rigged with wires, was later found in the same district.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37399592

[ck4829]

42. If he's going to call everything terrorism, he's eventually going to get one 'correct'

[lastlib]

43. FEAR--it's the fuel for the GOP machine.

A very Hitlerian response from Trumpolini (yes, I know Godwin's Law, but the term fits.)

[cstanleytech]

47. Yup which is why I suspect that this was done by some Trump supporters.

Why Trump supporters? Because if it had been real terrorists then they could have easily done alot more damage than whats happened so far but by limiting what they did they stoke the fires of fear and terror in people and the Republicans are the ones who do have a deep and long history of playing the "Terrorists" fear card before and during elections to drum up extra votes.

[left-of-center2012]

45. Trump could say Martians attacked us ...

And it wouldn't hurt 'The Donald'.

[Vinca]

46. I wouldn't beat this one to death.

You have a pressure cooker with wires coming out of it that blew up. Unlikely it's a corned beef gone wrong. There are plenty of things to go after Trump on, but 99.9% of all people hearing about the explosion will think "bomb." Hillary ought to let this one slide.

[Tom Rinaldo]

49. Trump "Guaranteed " that ISIS brought down an Egyptian jet

That happened a number of moths ago. It was returning to Egypt from Europe, there were reports of smoke in the cockpit that were not part of the initial reporting, but Trump was already calling it an ISIS strike. Authorities are still not sure what happened from public comments. ISIS never claimed responsibility for that plane going down. Authorities recovered both black boxes. The fire started either in a forward lavatory or in a storage area beneath it. Essential controls for operating the plane were disrupted by the fire which seems to be why the plane went down, rather than being "blown out of the sky" the way Trump claimed at the time. It could have been one of those high tech battery melt down incidents, but no one has talked about a supposed ISIS attack on that plane for a very long time, and Trump of course issued his immediate terrorist guarantee and has fallen silent since.

He will always claim whatever it is that fits his chosen narrative, whether or not there are facts to back it at the time. Some times it turns out to be true, other times false, facts are not his concern.

[PearliePoo2]

51. Your post is what I immediately thought of too.

Trump is a big braggart who thinks he knows everything.
When the facts become known on the Egyptair tragedy, and if it is indeed, as suspected, a mechanical/equipment malfunction, I REALLY want Dump questioned about his rush to judgement. Someone must ask him!
Dump is a disgusting "know-it-all" who really knows very little.

[Rocknrule]

52. If he heard a car backfire

He'd be tripping over himself to turn the nearest country with brown people in it into a sheet of glass

[bucolic_frolic]

55. HOW DID HE KNOW?

[jovi]

56. Here's what I am afraid of...

Months ago when the incidents happened in France and other countries the press was saying that if we had an attack here on US soil before the election then Trump will win on Nov 8. They based this assumption on Trumps strong stance on keeping Muslims out of the US, because in his mind only the Muslims do this kind of thing. And his strong stance on ISIS, because he knows more than the generals do. So with this stuff happening now does anyone see his poll numbers going up out of fear and him actually winning on Nov 8??

[judesedit]

62. No surprise if Trump knew about it before it happened. His supporters are capable of anything

[democrattotheend]

63. Does anyone know exactly what time Trump made his comment?

The Trumpkins are claiming "media bias" and "cover up" because they don't mention that Hillary also called the attacks bombings. But Hillary did so hours later, after the NYPD had already issued a statement and around the same time De Blasio spoke.