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brooklynite

(94,502 posts)
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:52 PM Sep 2016

Donald Trump links Mexico border wall plan to Israel's 'successful' separation barrier

Source: The Guardian

Donald Trump attempted to draw parallels between Israel’s separation barrier and his much-touted border wall pledge on Sunday after both presidential nominees met the Israeli prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu.

In Trump’s hour-long meeting with Netanyahu at his Trump Tower penthouse, the two reportedly discussed “at length Israel’s successful experience with a security fence that helped secure its borders”, according to the Trump campaign.

Israel’s separation barrier, which runs for 440 miles (700km) near or along the 1949 armistice lines set after Israel’s war for independence, is a fence of most of its length. In contrast, Trump has pledged to build a wall of concrete and rebar as high as 55 feet (17 metres) along the nearly 2,000 mile border between the US and Mexico.

The meeting was the first of two that Netanyahu held with presidential candidates on Sunday, the day before the first presidential debate. Contrary to custom both meetings were closed to the media, the Trump campaign has prevented reporters from any access to his meeting with Netanyahu and aides to the Israeli prime minister reportedly went on to insist Clinton’s campaign abide by the same rules Trump insisted upon.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/26/donald-trump-links-mexico-border-wall-plan-to-israels-successful-separation-barrier

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Donald Trump links Mexico border wall plan to Israel's 'successful' separation barrier (Original Post) brooklynite Sep 2016 OP
Trump is an idiot gwheezie Sep 2016 #1
The border is fully militarized & this wall is hellishly expensive, wants to spend $100B+ for a wall Foggyhill Sep 2016 #3
I would hardly call Israel's wall a success not to mention Trump and the idiots who support cstanleytech Sep 2016 #2
Could not have said it better n/t but there is a smilie Lulu KC Sep 2016 #4
How many suicide bombers have there been since it was built? hack89 Sep 2016 #16
So Bibi imposes Trump's "no reporters" rule on Hillary. SunSeeker Sep 2016 #5
To add Lithos Sep 2016 #6
Thieves, Murders, Rapists....what's one more insult between friends? Moonwalk Sep 2016 #7
If Trump gets elected, Canada will be building a wall. YOHABLO Sep 2016 #8
LOL bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #10
"the Trump campaign has prevented reporters" BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #9
Bingo! Earlier this summer, the media were pissing and moaning bulloney Sep 2016 #12
AND they whined BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #13
Israel is just barely bigger than New Jersey Just saying. mucifer Sep 2016 #11
Exactly treestar Sep 2016 #14
Just Stupid erpowers Sep 2016 #15
The separation barrier keeps suicide bombers out of Israel hack89 Sep 2016 #17

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
3. The border is fully militarized & this wall is hellishly expensive, wants to spend $100B+ for a wall
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:17 PM
Sep 2016

The big wall is so expensive they mostly use it were Palestinian settlements are close to Israeli settlements.
They don't use it with Gaza or to the south. That's why there are tons of tunnels even with a fully militarized border there.

Trump knows nothing about everything.

If you also consider the cost of militarization of the border and to maintain all these infrastructure, the long term cost would be astronomical.

And for what? 11M undocumented are still and those that overstay visas are still there.

Ah, but no fear, stop and frisk and a huge police force buildup + deportation that costs $100B of billions will "solve" all this.

If you count all the law and order expenses he's got lined up, the amount would be staggering, especially when he's also cutting taxes for mostly the top 1% at the same time. The budget shortfall would be extraordinary and would increase US borrowing costs and tank the US dollar.

cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
2. I would hardly call Israel's wall a success not to mention Trump and the idiots who support
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:08 PM
Sep 2016

a wall on the Mexican border simply cannot grasp the concept that the wall in Israel is a postage stamp size compared to the aircraft carrier size wall that would have to be built and maintained along the Mexican border.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
16. How many suicide bombers have there been since it was built?
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 06:44 PM
Sep 2016

It has been very successful at saving lives.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
5. So Bibi imposes Trump's "no reporters" rule on Hillary.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:47 PM
Sep 2016

And Bibi makes Hillary come to him, but he goes to Trump at Trump Tower.

Bibi is an asshole. I will never forgive him for participating in the Congressional Republicans' stunt disrespecting Obama.

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
6. To add
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 11:50 PM
Sep 2016

He just called all Mexicans terrorists... Agree or disagree about what the wall represents, the stated reason Israel built it was for security from Palestinian suicide attacks.

L-

BumRushDaShow

(128,848 posts)
9. "the Trump campaign has prevented reporters"
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 05:40 AM
Sep 2016

and the media don't whine about "lack of transparency". But let Clinton "prevent" and all hell breaks loose.

bulloney

(4,113 posts)
12. Bingo! Earlier this summer, the media were pissing and moaning
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 08:33 AM
Sep 2016

that Hillary had not held any news conferences for some made-up number of days.

BumRushDaShow

(128,848 posts)
13. AND they whined
Mon Sep 26, 2016, 09:35 AM
Sep 2016

initially about her not having them on the same plane with her (she had to secure a bigger campaign plane first).

Meanwhile their ratings darling Drumpf, still keeps them off his plane and out of his motorcade... and not a peep out of the fawning bloviators. They just say "Ok" and whine about Clinton.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
15. Just Stupid
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 05:35 PM
Sep 2016

That was just stupid. When has the Israeli separation barrier been a success? Hamas fighters are constantly launching successful attacks at Israel, which usually leads to military actions by Israel against Hamas. In addition, the separation barrier is just 440 miles long while the U.S.-Mexico border is about 2,000 miles long. Furthermore, there are a number of legal issues (private property, treaties, and Native American land) that will have to be dealt with before a wall can be build on the U.S.-Mexico border.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
17. The separation barrier keeps suicide bombers out of Israel
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 06:46 PM
Sep 2016

Last edited Wed Sep 28, 2016, 09:25 AM - Edit history (1)

It has been successful.

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