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highplainsdem

(48,975 posts)
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:37 AM Oct 2016

What Drives Donald Trump? Fear of Losing Status, Tapes Show

Source: NYT

The intense ambitions and undisciplined behaviors of Mr. Trump have confounded even those close to him, especially as his presidential campaign comes to a tumultuous end, and he confronts the possibility of the most stinging defeat of his life. But in the more than five hours of conversations — the last extensive biographical interviews Mr. Trump granted before running for president — a powerful driving force emerges: his deep-seated fear of public embarrassment.

The recordings reveal a man who is fixated on his own celebrity, anxious about losing his status and contemptuous of those who fall from grace. They capture the visceral pleasure he derives from fighting, his willful lack of interest in history, his reluctance to reflect on his life and his belief that most people do not deserve his respect.

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The interviews were conducted in 2014 by Michael D’Antonio, a Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter who later wrote a biography of Mr. Trump called “The Truth About Trump.”

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Over the past few weeks, Mr. D’Antonio gave The New York Times access to the original audio as well as transcripts of his interviews with Mr. Trump, Mr. Trump’s first wife, Ivana, and his three oldest children. The Times is using them as the basis for this article and a two-part episode of its election podcast, “The Run-Up.”

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Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/26/us/politics/donald-trump-interviews.html



This long article is a must-read (and check out the audio, too). Devastating profile of Trump.
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What Drives Donald Trump? Fear of Losing Status, Tapes Show (Original Post) highplainsdem Oct 2016 OP
He will lose and he will be forgotten as a vile POS. dalton99 Oct 2016 #1
It is extraordinary that a man who has PatSeg Oct 2016 #2
He must have a highly unusual idea of what is embarrassing muriel_volestrangler Oct 2016 #24
Or he's a bit delusional PatSeg Oct 2016 #26
He is a failure, born on 3.5 base ... given around 70 million in assets in the 70s and still not uponit7771 Oct 2016 #28
Yes, please let's give him the ultimate rejection of being beaten soundly in November kimbutgar Oct 2016 #3
Who? Salviati Oct 2016 #4
I hope he is a model for generations Ruby the Liberal Oct 2016 #17
He may be driving himself towards the thing he fears most Ellen Forradalom Oct 2016 #5
Great article. Thanks! Does a leopard change his spots? apcalc Oct 2016 #6
Rec, thanks. Mc Mike Oct 2016 #7
His favorite book says safeinOhio Oct 2016 #8
He's Beyond Pride The River Oct 2016 #10
Great article. PennyK Oct 2016 #9
Narcissistic Personality Disorder. yardwork Oct 2016 #11
Too late. His name will be scorned and reviled for generations. TonyPDX Oct 2016 #12
Yes. murielm99 Oct 2016 #14
Facinating. Raine1967 Oct 2016 #13
Has anyone ever commented that Trump... graegoyle Oct 2016 #15
Pretty sure he was quoted a few years back saying the Rs would Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #23
people in tough spots like these... RussBLib Oct 2016 #16
The gun wouldn't fire... DemInND Oct 2016 #21
The big baby needs to grow up Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2016 #22
A bit too late for that at 70. BlueStater Oct 2016 #25
Unless a clone of Adolf Hitler shows up in the GOP... sofa king Oct 2016 #27
Dec 1969 #

PatSeg

(47,427 posts)
2. It is extraordinary that a man who has
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:41 AM
Oct 2016

a deep-seated fear of public embarrassment, keeps doing publicly embarrassing things.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,314 posts)
24. He must have a highly unusual idea of what is embarrassing
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 03:51 AM
Oct 2016

I think for him it means "publicly seen as a failure", rather than "looking bad from an ethical, social or intellectual point of view". While he can tell himself he's a winner at something - beating the tax system, screwing someone in a deal, forcing himself on a woman - he keeps moving.

PatSeg

(47,427 posts)
26. Or he's a bit delusional
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 09:37 AM
Oct 2016

He apparently does not see or hear what the rest of us do, even though he is on TV every day. He seems to be more of a cartoon character than a real person.

uponit7771

(90,336 posts)
28. He is a failure, born on 3.5 base ... given around 70 million in assets in the 70s and still not
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 07:23 PM
Oct 2016

... a billionaire in liquidity now where if he just kept his money in an indexed mut fund he would've done better.

Salviati

(6,008 posts)
4. Who?
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:42 AM
Oct 2016

(A question I hope we'll be asking in a few years, after his last desperate grasp to hold on to relevance fails when his play for the alt-right following finally fizzles.)

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
17. I hope he is a model for generations
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 03:32 PM
Oct 2016

of exactly how not to conduct yourself in a public arena.

May his legacy be lasting.

Ellen Forradalom

(16,160 posts)
5. He may be driving himself towards the thing he fears most
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:42 AM
Oct 2016

To relieve the anxiety. Sort of like with fear of abandonment.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
7. Rec, thanks.
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 12:04 PM
Oct 2016

I have an alternate analysis, but it isn't being put forth to argue or quibble:

He spends a lot of time thinking about his genitals. And he's shameless, therefore incapable of feeling embarrassment.

The River

(2,615 posts)
10. He's Beyond Pride
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 12:46 PM
Oct 2016

more like full blown hubris. Pride may proceed a fall but hubris proceeds an epic beating.
hu·bris
(h)yo͞obrəs/
noun: hubris:
excessive pride or self-confidence.
synonyms: arrogance, conceit, haughtiness, hauteur, pride, self-importance, egotism, pomposity, superciliousness, superiority.

TonyPDX

(962 posts)
12. Too late. His name will be scorned and reviled for generations.
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 01:21 PM
Oct 2016

He'll be regarded like "Spiro T. Agnew," but with less admiration.

murielm99

(30,738 posts)
14. Yes.
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 01:59 PM
Oct 2016

They wanted to make Spiro's name a household word. They did. Then he became a joke.Now, no one knows who he is.

graegoyle

(532 posts)
15. Has anyone ever commented that Trump...
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 03:25 PM
Oct 2016

Likes to hang around celebrities who are cool and tend to be Democrats or liberal but ran as a Republican because he figured he could beat them because he thinks he is cooler than most of those "conservatives"?

RussBLib

(9,008 posts)
16. people in tough spots like these...
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 03:28 PM
Oct 2016

have been known to take their own lives.

I hope Donald doesn't whip out something at one of his rallies and offs himself.

I want him to be crushed by the landslide for Clinton, but I don't want him to take the coward's way out.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
25. A bit too late for that at 70.
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 04:02 AM
Oct 2016

He's lived his life as a loathsome piece of shit and he's going to die as a loathsome piece of shit.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
27. Unless a clone of Adolf Hitler shows up in the GOP...
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 11:39 AM
Oct 2016

... Trump is unlikely to lose his status as the worst Presidential candidate in modern American history.

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