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EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 01:53 PM Oct 2016

Trump: 'My employees are having a tremendous problem with Obamacare'

Source: CNN

Donald Trump claimed Tuesday during an event with staff at his resort here that his employees are having issues with Obamacare -- an account contradicted by his property's general manager -- amid the news that President Barack Obama's signature health care legislation is facing soaring premiums.

"I can say that all of my employees are having a tremendous problem with Obamacare," Trump said. "What they're going through with their health care is horrible because of Obamacare, so we'll repeal it and replace it."

The Republican presidential nominee's comments come one day after a government report revealed premiums are set to rise an average of 22% for the benchmark silver place in 2017. The benchmark Obamacare plan will cost an average of $296 a month next year.

Trump's comments sparked questions about whether his employees receive insurance through the health insurance exchanges set up under Obama's signature law, which would mean he does not offer private health insurance to those employees.


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/25/politics/trump-obamacare-employees/



So Donald doesn't give his employees health benefits? Is that the correct way to look at this?
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Trump: 'My employees are having a tremendous problem with Obamacare' (Original Post) EricMaundry Oct 2016 OP
No, as has been reported by the CEOs lapfog_1 Oct 2016 #1
However, the ACA isn't insurance - it gets people private insurance at reduced rates ehrnst Oct 2016 #25
I had to laugh when I heard the radio commentator fact check him on that. ffr Oct 2016 #28
That's how I read it...nt. user_name Oct 2016 #2
Tweets from the press at the event. Brutal. underpants Oct 2016 #3
another day, another lie - better check out whether or not Donnie paid employment taxes wordpix Oct 2016 #42
What a shitty employer!!!! nt MADem Oct 2016 #4
So....why are you , as their employer, not providing insurance to them? apcalc Oct 2016 #5
Probably a few reasons duncang Oct 2016 #16
And, if repealed, their pre-existing conditions keep them from getting HCare -- at all. Festivito Oct 2016 #21
He IS providing them with Healthcare...which is why this is total BS.... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #24
I would imagine that he is offering the female employees free breast exams... olddad56 Oct 2016 #26
Only those over a "6".... Moonwalk Oct 2016 #27
he fits right in with the republican party. lie, lie, and lie. bigly. unblock Oct 2016 #6
That's how I read it. n/t Ms. Toad Oct 2016 #7
Donald put his foot up his fanny with that one Jim Dandy Oct 2016 #8
A self-described successful multi-BILLIONAIRE Plucketeer Oct 2016 #9
From Huffington Post EricMaundry Oct 2016 #11
A lot of repugs think their employer insurance is adversely affected IronLionZion Oct 2016 #12
"Vaccinations...have no copay" awoke_in_2003 Oct 2016 #38
Yup, I've had no copay on flu shots at the doctor, urgent care, or on company site IronLionZion Oct 2016 #39
Exactly, So Donald Does Not Provide Health Insurance? TomCADem Oct 2016 #13
His employees are also having a tremendous problem with their paychecks clearing jmowreader Oct 2016 #14
Those with insurance through the exchange, 83% of that 22% is subsidized, meaning.... George II Oct 2016 #17
That is exactly what it is Eric, the asshole won't provide healthcare insurance to his employees still_one Oct 2016 #18
As usual he is a lying POS. Bloomberg just reported that 95% of employees of Trump are NOT affected still_one Oct 2016 #19
"He did not provide evidence for his claim." neeksgeek Oct 2016 #20
Besides....where are they encountering problems? cynzke Oct 2016 #23
The IRS prohibits large Employers from dumping its employees into the ACA marketplace unless it.... cynzke Oct 2016 #22
He doesn't offer health care for his employees? liberal N proud Oct 2016 #29
There's a third possibility: subterranean Oct 2016 #35
His lips were moving! liberal N proud Oct 2016 #37
The cable news channels are working overtime to push Trump today world wide wally Oct 2016 #30
That's exactly what I thought - then he must not treestar Oct 2016 #31
What about the 16 million who are covered by the expanded medicaid state coverage? busterbrown Oct 2016 #34
Trump's employees are having tremendous problems because of Trump GreydeeThos Oct 2016 #32
It must be a nightmare treestar Oct 2016 #36
tRump is not a good person madokie Oct 2016 #33
If what he is saying is true.... Dorian Gray Oct 2016 #40
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lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
1. No, as has been reported by the CEOs
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 01:55 PM
Oct 2016

of various Trump corporations, 95% of employees have private health insurance.

Donald is simply lying again.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
25. However, the ACA isn't insurance - it gets people private insurance at reduced rates
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 04:53 PM
Oct 2016

"...the general manager of Trump's property in Doral, David Feder, said "99% of our employees are insured through our hotel."

"Over 90%, without a doubt," he added."

Which means that they are getting private insurance via their employer, rather than a state exchange.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
28. I had to laugh when I heard the radio commentator fact check him on that.
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 05:06 PM
Oct 2016

He is soooooo done!

Then there's the illegal elections campaign funds he's taken from a fake Chinese donor. He and his staff could be facing additional legal challenges after the election.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
42. another day, another lie - better check out whether or not Donnie paid employment taxes
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 08:20 AM
Oct 2016

One of the big lies about "entitlements" that "cost the gov billions": the employer pays the gov. employment taxes to cover some of those "entitlements. "

apcalc

(4,465 posts)
5. So....why are you , as their employer, not providing insurance to them?
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 02:01 PM
Oct 2016

If you do provide insurance, as stated above , why are you implying by your statement that you do not?
Total POS

duncang

(1,907 posts)
16. Probably a few reasons
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 02:41 PM
Oct 2016

First he splits up his companies to small size bites. So when one goes bankrupt it doesn't drag him down as far and for him hopefully he can get someone else to take the loss while he walks away.

Next according to how many people he employs from overseas. Using h1b visas with waivers so he may not have that many U.S. citizen employees. Also not sure how many people he contracts from a sub-contractor.

End result he probably is able to get out of providing insurance.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
21. And, if repealed, their pre-existing conditions keep them from getting HCare -- at all.
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 03:56 PM
Oct 2016

Also, that huge rise is NOT HUGE on those who get supplements -- pretty much just stays the same.

For those who make ten times as much as the low level employees, they can afford it. And, some of that rise, maybe even all of that rise, maybe EVEN MORE THAN THAT RISE CAN BE RETURNED TO THE PAYER -- LATER.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
24. He IS providing them with Healthcare...which is why this is total BS....
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 04:51 PM
Oct 2016

From the article:

...the general manager of Trump's property in Doral, David Feder, said "99% of our employees are insured through our hotel."

"Over 90%, without a doubt," he added.

Feder said all of his employees who work more than 30 hours a week are eligible for the company's private health insurance coverage and that he presumed only part-time or seasonal workers would have to go through Obamacare exchanges. He said the company "picks up 70% of premiums."


Which means almost none of them are using Obamacare. Even the reporters at the event were rolling their eyes about this. The number that might have Obamacare is tiny at best.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
26. I would imagine that he is offering the female employees free breast exams...
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 04:55 PM
Oct 2016

anytime he is on the premises.

unblock

(52,206 posts)
6. he fits right in with the republican party. lie, lie, and lie. bigly.
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 02:05 PM
Oct 2016

it's all about smearing and branding.

people have gripes about the cost of healthcare, and he wants to tie Obama/Hillary to it, ergo, blame obamacare even though it has nothing to do with employer-based plans.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
9. A self-described successful multi-BILLIONAIRE
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 02:20 PM
Oct 2016

and his employees have to scrape to afford health care??? I'd bet that the Donald has his flight crew siphon fuel from adjacent jets to get him to his next appearance!

 

EricMaundry

(1,619 posts)
11. From Huffington Post
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 02:26 PM
Oct 2016

Donald Trump Serves Up Piping Hot Nonsense On Obamacare - It’s possible he doesn’t know what the Affordable Care Act actually is.
Jeffrey Young Senior Reporter, The Huffington Post

WASHINGTON ― You would think that Obamacare had enough real problems that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump would be able to stick to discussing them when taking a swing at the health care law. But you’d be wrong.

During a campaign event promotion for his hotels at the Trump National Doral Miami resort Tuesday, the GOP nominee seized on the news that health insurance premiums on the Affordable Care Act’s exchange marketplaces are going up by a lot for some people next year.

But naturally, instead of just using this information to criticize the law and propose something better (or “something terrific,” as he’s fond of saying), Trump opted to go a little nuts.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
12. A lot of repugs think their employer insurance is adversely affected
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 02:28 PM
Oct 2016

by Obamacare. Some of the minimum coverage provisions affect employer plans like no copay for annual checkups and keeping children on until age 26. Most vaccinations and screenings have no copay. and so on. There are also provisions that large employers should cover fulltime employees.

These are mostly good things. The fact that as more people have insurance, and more conditions are covered, more people use their plan to get treatment. So that raises the costs which are then passed on to higher premiums. Republicans always talk about premiums increasing, but never talk about why. They leave it up to people to assume that socialism is causing soviet style bread lines or some such BS.

Premiums increase because people with expensive chronic illnesses are getting life-saving treatments, surgeries, transplants, pacemakers, prescription medications, etc. Sometimes it is for the first time in their lives. Health care has increased dramatically in our country. And that is a good thing.

A coworker got a heart transplant earlier this year. His story is absolutely incredible. Yeah, our premiums are high. but when something huge and expensive is needed, I'm glad that it's covered.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
38. "Vaccinations...have no copay"
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 11:07 PM
Oct 2016

Hmmm, maybe that is why, for the last 5 or 6 years, my company has done flu shots on site, and family can get them, too. I used to have to go to the doctor for my flu shot. Now I know why it has changed.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
39. Yup, I've had no copay on flu shots at the doctor, urgent care, or on company site
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 06:46 AM
Oct 2016

I've had high deductible plans the last few years, which is fine for me. The company had wellness programs where we got money put in our health savings account for exercising and not smoking.

But this year I signed up for Kaiser HMO, which a liberal health policy analyst I know convinced me that it's the closest thing to the original Hillarycare. No copay on my flu shot this time either. And no soviet-style bread lines when I've gone for treatment yet, even though HMO's have a reputation for socialist rationing.



TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
13. Exactly, So Donald Does Not Provide Health Insurance?
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 02:30 PM
Oct 2016

If so, then thank goodness for the ACA or they would have limited access to health insurance, particularly if they had a preexisting condition.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
14. His employees are also having a tremendous problem with their paychecks clearing
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 02:35 PM
Oct 2016

The only reason I won't say Donald Trump is a piece of shit, is shit promotes growth.

George II

(67,782 posts)
17. Those with insurance through the exchange, 83% of that 22% is subsidized, meaning....
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 02:53 PM
Oct 2016

...that the increase is really only 3.7%.

still_one

(92,187 posts)
19. As usual he is a lying POS. Bloomberg just reported that 95% of employees of Trump are NOT affected
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 03:08 PM
Oct 2016

by the ACA, but are cover by the company. Only Temporary or part-time workers are affected.

In addition, here is a link which contradicts the lying scum bucket since 95% of his employees are NOT affected by the ACA

http://www.salon.com/2016/03/11/donald_trump_says_he_treats_his_employees_really_good_with_health_care_so_we_asked_them_if_it_was_true/

cynzke

(1,254 posts)
23. Besides....where are they encountering problems?
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 04:17 PM
Oct 2016

With health vendors or with the insurance carrier? Insurance premiums are directly proportional to the cost of health care in the area you live in. Big city doctors/hospitals charge more than rural areas in the middle of the country. Premium costs are negotiated by the states and health providers, not ACA. ACA places limits on annual/lifetime out of pocket expenses. Everything else is (as it was prior to ACA) determined/approved by state departments of insurance.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
29. He doesn't offer health care for his employees?
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 05:12 PM
Oct 2016

The employer mandate requires him to provide health care insurance if 50% of his employees are full time.

This tells one of two things:
Either he most of his employees are part time, which wouldn't surprise me.
Or, he is knowingly violating the law which wouldn't be a surprise either.

world wide wally

(21,742 posts)
30. The cable news channels are working overtime to push Trump today
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 05:20 PM
Oct 2016

All day long attack on Obamacare practically begging Trump to "use it.This is your opening" Practically telling him what to say on CNN and MSNBC.
Then it is followed with Trump's speech exerts talking about it.
Never a word about Trump's plan to replace it. Just Trump saying how horrible it is followed by the talking heads saying how horrible it is.

One cut of Trump pointing to newspeople and calling them the scum of the earth, but they just keep showing it over and over.

Why the fuck do they want that monster to be elected this badly?

treestar

(82,383 posts)
31. That's exactly what I thought - then he must not
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 05:22 PM
Oct 2016

have an insurance benefit for them.

The ACA is ideal for the self employed and for people with lower incomes but not low enough for Medicaid. People with crappy jobs that don't have health insurance.

GreydeeThos

(958 posts)
32. Trump's employees are having tremendous problems because of Trump
Tue Oct 25, 2016, 05:26 PM
Oct 2016

There is no need to bring the President into this.

Dorian Gray

(13,493 posts)
40. If what he is saying is true....
Wed Oct 26, 2016, 07:16 AM
Oct 2016

Then you should be paying for their healthcare, you criminal asshat.

Or, he's lying. And his problem is with the insurance companies that are increasing his employer sponsored health care.

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