Yuengling Faces Backlash After Owner’s Donald Trump Endorsement
Source: Time.com
Yuengling Faces Backlash After Owners Donald Trump Endorsement
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Bottles of Yuengling beer are displayed in Philadelphia, onMay 16, 2007.
Matt RourkeAP Bottles of Yuengling beer are displayed in Philadelphia, on May 16, 2007.
"Time to change my beer choice"
When Yuengling owner Richard Yuengling Jr. told Eric Trump on Monday, Our guys are behind your father, he likely didnt predict that hed soon be facing local bars pulling his beers off tap in protest.
But outrage was swift, and Brian Sims, a Pennsylvania state representative from Philadelphia, quickly called on bars in Philadelphias Gayborhood to take Yuengling off tap, the New York Times reports. Two bars have agreed so far, and he says hes going to expand his efforts.
Everybody understands that the dollars that we now put into the marketplace have the potential to come back at us, Sims, who is Pennsylvanias first openly gay legislator, told the Times. I want my dollars spent in a way that at the very least doesnt hurt me, and hopefully supports me.............
Read more: http://time.com/4548943/yuengling-beer-donald-trump-endorsement-backlash/
Loving it!!
...........A bar owner in Washington, D.C. posted a video of himself removing the his Yuengling beer tap, and liberal beer fans on Twitter have said theyd stop drinking the lager in protest.
https://www.facebook.com/ddavidindc/videos/vb.629735794/10154424844120795/?type=2&theater
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dalton99
(781 posts)Much better.
PatSeg
(46,789 posts)yellowcanine
(35,692 posts)I do feel bad for the people who actually make the beer. It is not their fault that the owner is a jerk. Maybe it is time for a new owner.
onethatcares
(16,131 posts)I quit drinking Yuengling when the owners beat the union out of the building.
Demit
(11,238 posts)This should hardly be a revelation.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)and tastes WAY better.
I'm more of a porter and stout guy, though.
Demit
(11,238 posts)Although I'll drink it if that's all the ironic hipsters who are throwing the party have.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)I'll just take PBR over Yuengling if that's the choice. Although, I've seen bars make BANK off of hipsters. Selling cans of PBR tallboys for $2. You can buy a 4 pack of those cans for $3.
FarPoint
(12,207 posts)Go local for beer...
riversedge
(69,713 posts)malachi
(732 posts)he told his employees that he would shut the brewery unless they decertified their union. Whatta guy! The appropriately name Dick.
http://articles.mcall.com/2007-06-13/opinion/3726393_1_teamsters-union-union-dues-yuengling-brewery
roscoeroscoe
(1,369 posts)Whatta dick. Thanks for the info.
DRINK SIERRA NEVADA!
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Can't stand the stuff. I don't understand the allure of American-style lagers. They ruin the barley and hops flavor by adding corn. Gross.
yellowcanine
(35,692 posts)Beer is not just barley. Wheat is often used, as is corn, sorghum, rice, etc.
You don't like it, okay. Doesn't make it "pisswater."
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)I know what goes in beer.
Corn is used to stop the fermentation process in American style lagers like Yeungling, Miller, Budweiser, et al. That is a cheap way of doing it.
yellowcanine
(35,692 posts)I guess they might know what goes in beer also. It's a silly argument.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)I call it Pennsylvania pisswater, because it tastes like piss.
And if you think they used corn to stop fermentation way back when, then you're sadly mistaken. That's a more recent development amongst low end beers.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,846 posts)Not really an accomplishment. Neither is sounding like the stereotypical of a beer nerd.
Corn has been used in brewing for hundreds of years.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Corn as an adjunct, no.
There is a difference.
Most of the recipes I use predate American style lagers, anyhow. They never see a drop of corn.
If you like to drink pisswater, don't let me stop you. But don't get all upset when someone tells you you're drinking pisswater.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"don't get all upset when someone tells you you're drinking pisswater...."
Or merely alleges as such when it strokes their own biases.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,153 posts)Barley
Hop
Water
As adopted by The Barvarian Purity Law of 1516.
Corn is not an ingredient of real beer.
One of my favorites, from the area I was born, follows these laws to a tee
"Our motto, natural simple and pure"
geardaddy
(24,924 posts)But yeah, that should be the law here, too.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,153 posts)Yes, true.
Spring 1516 actually uses 4 ingredients.
doc03
(35,148 posts)what makes them the beat all end all in beer?
LiberalLovinLug
(14,153 posts)The oldest known brewery still in operation today is the Benedictine Weihenstephan Breezeway in Bavaria, Germany. Its thought that it first opened up shop around 768 and by 1040 is known to have been officially licensed by the City of Freising for making beer.
Yes, other countries like ancient Egypt, and other early civilizations etc.. made a beer-like malt from various grains, but the common western beer tastes veer towards the flavours of barley and hops.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)So, we stole that from them, then ruined it with corn grits (because 'Murica!).
They also created the Märzen, Hefeweizen, Kölsch, Bock, and Doppelbock.
The Germans, the Belgians, and the British wrote the book on beer. They are the be-all-end-all.
azureblue
(2,131 posts)The Chinese learned to brew beer from Britain during the British occupation. 1839 - ish?
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)I will say, I haven't found a Chinese beer I've liked, yet.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,846 posts)Pilsner is Czech (from PILSEN, get it?) Most of the early breweries in this country were started by German and Czech immigrants.
You don't know what you're talking about, spend more time reading and less with your Mr. Beer starter kit.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Modern american lagers are NOTHING like their original German and Czech counterparts.
Also, pilsner is also spelled pilsener, especially when referring to Germany. It is of both Czech and German descent as it came from Bohemia (specifically, the city of Pilsen), which was in the Austrian Empire, long predating the modern Czech republic.
As for your snide Mr Beer comments... I do 20 gallon all grain brews using original recipes of my own, along with 200 year old recipes from Europe. Unless its a highly carbonated beer (like an Abbey ale or a saison) it goes to one of my kegs (sometimes I clarify it first, depending on the style) and I enjoy it on tap. Highly carbonated beers I bottle condition.
Maynar
(769 posts)I find 1516 a bit thin for my taste.
No arguing the purity, however.
Marengo
(3,477 posts)roamer65
(36,739 posts)I have to go to Canada to get a real beer. Thank God I live near the border.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)roamer65
(36,739 posts)I want to try Molson "Cold Shots" Canadian. 6 pct Molson Canadian in a can. No poisoning the fermentation with that one...or at least not as much.
Also, I need to get a large bottle of Havana Club rum, since we now can bring it in the USA.
Now I can have a REAL rum and Coke. Thanks Obama!
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,846 posts)You're hilarious.
melman
(7,681 posts)but not anymore. There is so much good beer now.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,846 posts)If you can't find good beer in America, you aren't looking hard enough.
doc03
(35,148 posts)I happen to like Yeungling, Sam Adams and another is Leinenkugel's.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)It's also mass-produced like Miller and Budweiser. It also tastes like piss, just like Miller and Budweiser.
doc03
(35,148 posts)either of those. What makes you the authority on beer any more than anyone else.
jmowreader
(50,447 posts)The fermentation process is going to stop when the yeast's converted all the starch into monosaccharides and then all the monosaccharides to alcohol and CO2. Adjuncts - normally corn syrup in today's market - do three things.
They save money because Karo Syrup is cheaper than a monosaccharide-equivalent amount of barley malt.
They save time because yeast doesn't have to make invertase to convert Karo's starches into fermentable sugars.
And they produce a beer that many people actually like.
(Too bad my house is so fucking small, I make a mean steam beer.)
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Which slows the fermentation process BEFORE the beer is actually done. Modern commercial beers utilize this technique to move the batches along quicker.
Not the same as using corn sugar to prime, as commercial beers are artificially carbonated, not through fermentation.
jmowreader
(50,447 posts)Brewer's yeast produces three enzymes: diastase, invertase and zymase. Because yeasts are single-cell organisms, they can really only produce one at a time.
The first one it produces is diastase. This converts starch to glucose.
Next is invertase. It "inverts" sugar - converting disaccharides, which yeast can't convert to alcohol, to monosaccharides which are convertible.
Then comes zymase, which converts monosaccharide to alcohol and carbon dioxide, which dissolves into the beer. (Breweries that filter beer recover the CO2 and re-carbonate the beer with it. Why buy new CO2 from a welding supply store when you can use the CO2 the beer gives you free?)
Using grits does a few things for you.
First, it gives you a beer with a lighter flavor. Beer drinkers who believe the perfect beer is a double bock with triple hops and a spoonful of Bitrex just to make sure won't believe this, but some of us actually like beer you can see through.
Next, corn and rice (the other popular adjunct in American-style lager) are lower in protein than barley is. Protein in beer contributes to cloudiness, which is why fines are so much in demand; they pull the proteins out of the beer. The flipside is wheat, a grain higher in protein than barley - which is why wheat beers are all cloudy as hell.
But here's the important part: mashing corn and rice cause the starches to break down into fermentable sugars before you ever pitch the wort with yeast. The higher the ratio of sugar to starch you have, the faster the yeast can go to work creating alcohol and the quicker you get to final gravity. And THIS, my dear doctor, is why worts with adjuncts finish faster than all-barley worts.
liberal N proud
(60,300 posts)Freddie
(9,231 posts)I had to listen to my hairdresser go an about all the "Clinton crimes" while she had a scissors and/or chemicals in my hair. I'd change hairdressers in a minute but she's really good with my hair and only goes off the rails during Presidential years.
GusBob
(7,286 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)doc03
(35,148 posts)for something to be good it has to be imported.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)original "Budweiser" in České Budějovice. And Heineken, Stella Artois, HofBrau, .......
But I'm quite happy with Anchor Steam, Brooklyn Lager, Sam Adams, and all kinds of "craft" beers! I shop in stores where one can put together their own 6-packs for $12.00.
But no more for my Yuengling!
P.S. That's now two of us to whom you replied as if taking some kind of personal offense at liking foreign beers. It's just BEER!
De gustibus non disputandum est!
doc03
(35,148 posts)neeksgeek
(1,214 posts)Tried a Yuengling. Once. There are many better beers. But I'll add them to my extensive boycott list, just for the sake of form. I'll put them next to Papa John's pizza-flavored cardboard.
obamanut2012
(25,906 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)That we should avoid.....I don't do papa johns....I don't do trump properties....i don't do any Limbaugh sponsors...
Jimbo S
(2,953 posts)This is how the populace fights back against the corporatists. More of this needs to happen.
Sometimes we are our own worst enemy.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Yuengling and bottom shelf Chardonnay.
I had the Chardonnay.
I despise Chardonnay.
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)Why they would have Yuengling is beyond me.
One of my volunteer jobs I bartend for a local organization - their beer choices are Miller Lite and Yuengling. I would just choose to not drink.
I'm trying to push selling local beers. For a few shows we had leftover cans of beer from Mispillion River Brewing here in Delaware. When I informed patrons of that choice they all were interested (I was at the bigger venue that also has Guiness and DFH60, the small venue has space limits and doesn't sell those 2 beers). Buy local!
riversedge
(69,713 posts)SunSeeker
(51,367 posts)MBS
(9,688 posts)malthaussen
(17,065 posts)I did like their Black and Tan, but there are other brands out there.
-- Mal
LynneSin
(95,337 posts)My favorite beers are from local breweries here in Delaware. For all I know Sam Cagalione (Owner of Dogfish Head Brewery here in Delaware) could be a raging right-wing extremist who is funneling millions of dollars to Trump's campaign.
If he is I don't know it - he never talks politics other than getting local Delaware Politicians of both parties to pass laws that help protect and promote Delaware beer.
How someone votes personally doesn't matter to me but when that person engages their businesses into extremist politics then they deserve the backlash!
geardaddy
(24,924 posts)I heard they were GOP supporters, so, no more Leinie's for me.
Besides, I usually drink more locally, since we have so many breweries here in the Twin Cities.
wryter2000
(46,016 posts)Off my shopping list. Thanks
geardaddy
(24,924 posts)wryter2000
(46,016 posts)Don't know if I've ever bought them, but I'll make sure I don't.
doc03
(35,148 posts)geardaddy
(24,924 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Any I missed?
geardaddy
(24,924 posts)That's all I can think of right now.
berksdem
(593 posts)sure why so many people are shocked here. Dick has been a long time right winger and anti union.
Aristus
(66,083 posts)I'm a local microbrew kind of guy. But I hope his business craters.
BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)ET Awful
(24,753 posts)bullsnarfle
(254 posts)I would truly hate having to give up my 16 oz Rolling Rocks!
FSogol
(45,356 posts)but at least the 16 oz cans are still brewed in glass-lined tanks with the old recipe. And the "Latrobe Breweries" name is still used, even having been bought-out. Hard to find anything anymore that hasn't been bought-out by big greedy Corporate.
BoyBlue2
(5 posts)I will never buy another Yuengling. Just like I moved all my money to a local Credit Union. Keep up this type of pressure, it works.
sellitman
(11,596 posts)(Is a tough neighborhood but someone has to live here. )
One is huge one Micro. I drink local beer only.
Beer snob i am.
Paladin
(28,202 posts)No need for me to ever have another Yuengling.
roamer65
(36,739 posts)VB...Victoria Bitter. If I lived in Australia, I would be an alcoholic!
I drank it for lunch, supper, breakfast, whenever.
https://m.
sunweaver
(75 posts)Firestorm49
(4,002 posts)Having owned a business for 36 years, I came to understand the significance of remaining neutral during election times. As much as I wanted to put up signs and banners, I never did. With the internet age upon us, it is sometimes difficult to attract new customers, keep the old ones, and not piss too many of them off. I am astounded by how many businesses choose to put up political banners and signs on their business property. No surprise, but if I see Republican signs in front of a business, I will choose NOT to deal with them, given any reasonable alternative.
So to all of you staunch business owners who choose to publicize your political beliefs, you get an "F" in designing your business plan and you no doubt will reap what you sow. In the long run, you may feel that you won the battle ( a joke in itself) but you will lose the war.
BumRushDaShow
(127,288 posts)Away it goes.
WTF is wrong with some of these folks?
(as a note, I'm not really a beer drinker but I have it for guests who do drink it)
IronLionZion
(45,256 posts)I might lose some weight from these boycotts!
Wuddles440
(1,098 posts)It always amazes me when these "brilliant" businesses publicly promote their political ideologies. What idiots! If I can, I'm always going to avoid supporting businesses that have political beliefs that are polar opposites of mine. Of course, that's why most utilize Super PACS for their financial advocacy to insulate them from disclosing their identities and adversely impacting their business interests. Buy BLUE!!!
japple
(9,773 posts)have MUCH better beers.
rockfordfile
(8,682 posts)Good
bpositive
(423 posts)I like the beer and it's endorsement of Trump greatly disappoints. I'm sure the breweries probably spill more than I would drink in a lifetime but I will do my part in avoiding it. In fact, I just opted for a Sam Adams winter over it. Probably doesn't mean too much to them but it's a start and it sounds like I am part of a movement.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,846 posts)It's their only beer that I thought was "above average" for a style, but I'll never drink it again.
EDIT: I used to brew beer at home and win some local competitions, and I've sampled lots of beers.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Never again!
Upin
(115 posts)Yingling was usually the least crappy choice at a place that only serves Bud and Coors.
Might have to go with water... The horror..