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riversedge

(69,713 posts)
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 09:25 AM Oct 2016

Yuengling Faces Backlash After Owner’s Donald Trump Endorsement

Source: Time.com



Yuengling Faces Backlash After Owner’s Donald Trump Endorsement

Tessa Berenson @tcberenson

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Bottles of Yuengling beer are displayed in Philadelphia, onMay 16, 2007.
Matt Rourke—AP Bottles of Yuengling beer are displayed in Philadelphia, on May 16, 2007.




"Time to change my beer choice"

When Yuengling owner Richard Yuengling Jr. told Eric Trump on Monday, “Our guys are behind your father,” he likely didn’t predict that he’d soon be facing local bars pulling his beers off tap in protest.

But outrage was swift, and Brian Sims, a Pennsylvania state representative from Philadelphia, quickly called on bars in Philadelphia’s “Gayborhood” to take Yuengling off tap, the New York Times reports. Two bars have agreed so far, and he says he’s going to expand his efforts.

“Everybody understands that the dollars that we now put into the marketplace have the potential to come back at us,” Sims, who is Pennsylvania’s first openly gay legislator, told the Times. “I want my dollars spent in a way that at the very least doesn’t hurt me, and hopefully supports me.”............

Read more: http://time.com/4548943/yuengling-beer-donald-trump-endorsement-backlash/



Loving it!!


...........A bar owner in Washington, D.C. posted a video of himself removing the his Yuengling beer tap, and liberal beer fans on Twitter have said they’d stop drinking the lager in protest.

https://www.facebook.com/ddavidindc/videos/vb.629735794/10154424844120795/?type=2&theater


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Yuengling Faces Backlash After Owner’s Donald Trump Endorsement (Original Post) riversedge Oct 2016 OP
There are better beers. dalton99 Oct 2016 #1
And better business owners as well PatSeg Oct 2016 #4
Yes but I do like a Yuengling now and then. Or at least I did. yellowcanine Oct 2016 #6
those people are no longer union beermeisters onethatcares Oct 2016 #71
Of course there are. And the price goes up accordingly. Demit Oct 2016 #15
PBR is cheaper than Yuengling, Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #17
Doesn't taste better to me. Demit Oct 2016 #28
They both taste terrible to me. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #35
Time to Boycott FarPoint Oct 2016 #2
Mostly I do. riversedge Oct 2016 #3
Never a big fan of his beer, but stopped drinking it after malachi Oct 2016 #29
Whatta guy! roscoeroscoe Oct 2016 #51
Pennsylvania pisswater. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #5
Meh. Matter of taste. Lots of different grains are used in beers all over the world. yellowcanine Oct 2016 #8
I've brewed beer for 10 years. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #9
And Yuengling has been brewing beer since 1829. yellowcanine Oct 2016 #13
If you call that beer, then I guess. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #16
So you've been brewing beer since it's been trendy..... ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2016 #19
Corn as a fermentable, yes. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #21
Or merely alleges as such when it strokes their own biases. LanternWaste Oct 2016 #23
The only ingredients in beer should be LiberalLovinLug Oct 2016 #48
That was before they understood yeast was responsible for making the alcohol. geardaddy Oct 2016 #50
he he LiberalLovinLug Oct 2016 #52
According to the German purity law? Beer has been made in many more countries than just Germany doc03 Oct 2016 #54
Well they do have the oldest running brewery in the world LiberalLovinLug Oct 2016 #58
Well, the American Lager is based heavily on the German Pilsener Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #64
IIRC azureblue Oct 2016 #75
Something like that. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #78
We didn't "steal" anything. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2016 #95
Wow, dude. Touchy much? Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #98
I love their pale ale Maynar Oct 2016 #84
Beer was brewed for millennia without hops. Marengo Oct 2016 #91
American commercial beers are awful. roamer65 Oct 2016 #43
Indeed! nt Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #44
I have to head over soon. roamer65 Oct 2016 #45
Molson Canadian is a cheap mass produced lager made by Coors. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2016 #97
This used to be true melman Oct 2016 #89
They're the same thing. ForgoTheConsequence Oct 2016 #96
Don't even put Yeungling in the same sentence with swill like Miller and Budweiser. doc03 Oct 2016 #53
Yeungling is the same style of beer as Miller and Budweiser. Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #61
That's your opinion to me Yeaugling can't be compared to doc03 Oct 2016 #72
To "stop" the fermentation process? jmowreader Oct 2016 #67
I'm talking about the addition of corn grits Dr Hobbitstein Oct 2016 #77
Oh boy jmowreader Oct 2016 #87
Smart business owners keep politics out of their business liberal N proud Oct 2016 #7
Yes indeed Freddie Oct 2016 #79
Modelo or Tecate before they build the wall lol GusBob Oct 2016 #10
Dos Equis! WinkyDink Oct 2016 #27
I tried it, don't see what is so great about it unless you are one that thinks doc03 Oct 2016 #55
Oh, I'm quite eclectic in my tastes, and I've had Belgian beer in Belgium, Pilsner in Plzen, and the WinkyDink Oct 2016 #59
It's just jobs nt doc03 Oct 2016 #73
I'm a beer snob. neeksgeek Oct 2016 #12
There are way better session beers obamanut2012 Oct 2016 #14
There should be a long list of businesses.... beachbumbob Oct 2016 #18
Good Jimbo S Oct 2016 #20
I was at a lecture here in Philly last night. The reception had two choices of alcohol: onehandle Oct 2016 #22
Philly has some amazing breweries including Yards LynneSin Oct 2016 #31
Ah, you are a Trooper. riversedge Oct 2016 #93
Live by the Trump, die by the Trump. SunSeeker Oct 2016 #24
" " " " " n/t MBS Oct 2016 #26
Never liked their lager. malthaussen Oct 2016 #25
I'd join the protest but I can't stand the beer! LynneSin Oct 2016 #30
That's why I stopped drinking Leinenkugel. geardaddy Oct 2016 #32
I didn't know that wryter2000 Oct 2016 #38
You're welcome. Oh and Johnsonville brats. geardaddy Oct 2016 #40
Thanks again wryter2000 Oct 2016 #46
Are there any national brand beer breweries that don't support the GOP? doc03 Oct 2016 #56
That's a good question. n/t geardaddy Oct 2016 #63
Surly, Summit, Indeed, Insight, etc 47of74 Oct 2016 #90
Steel Toe, Bauhaus, 612 geardaddy Oct 2016 #94
not really... berksdem Oct 2016 #33
My personal boycott won't hurt him, since I've never drunk his stuff. Aristus Oct 2016 #34
ANY Trump related product MUST be boycotted PERIOD!! BigBearJohn Oct 2016 #37
Sorry, read "Yuengling" and thought "Didn't Annakin kill them all?" ET Awful Oct 2016 #41
Sure hope Latrobe doesn't go that route... bullsnarfle Oct 2016 #42
Huh? Anheuser Busch bought Rolling Rock years ago. That stuff isn't brewed in Latrobe anymore. n/t FSogol Oct 2016 #49
True, bullsnarfle Oct 2016 #99
Never Did Like It Anyway BoyBlue2 Oct 2016 #47
I live within walking distance to 2 Breweries. sellitman Oct 2016 #57
Lots and lots of good beers on the market. Paladin Oct 2016 #60
When I visited Australia, I had the best damn commercial lager I've ever tasted. roamer65 Oct 2016 #62
What fun! Thanks for posting this ad. sunweaver Oct 2016 #82
Good for them Firestorm49 Oct 2016 #66
Shit. Have some Black and Tan in the fridge BumRushDaShow Oct 2016 #69
No Chick Fil A and now no more Yuengling IronLionZion Oct 2016 #70
It's time to resurrect the "Blue Pages"! Wuddles440 Oct 2016 #74
I know I'm prejudiced, but Dale's Pale Ale (and Oskar Blues Brewing Co.) japple Oct 2016 #76
Never drink the stuff. The fact the company supported a lowlife like Trump rockfordfile Oct 2016 #80
I'll admit bpositive Oct 2016 #81
I only liked their hefeweizen, called "Summer Wheat." Buckeye_Democrat Oct 2016 #83
I don't buy much beer, but the last time I did I bought Yuengling. Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2016 #88
I'm off it for good... Upin Oct 2016 #92
Dec 1969 #
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yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
6. Yes but I do like a Yuengling now and then. Or at least I did.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 09:51 AM
Oct 2016

I do feel bad for the people who actually make the beer. It is not their fault that the owner is a jerk. Maybe it is time for a new owner.

onethatcares

(16,131 posts)
71. those people are no longer union beermeisters
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 04:32 PM
Oct 2016

I quit drinking Yuengling when the owners beat the union out of the building.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
28. Doesn't taste better to me.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:02 AM
Oct 2016

Although I'll drink it if that's all the ironic hipsters who are throwing the party have.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
35. They both taste terrible to me.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:25 AM
Oct 2016

I'll just take PBR over Yuengling if that's the choice. Although, I've seen bars make BANK off of hipsters. Selling cans of PBR tallboys for $2. You can buy a 4 pack of those cans for $3.

malachi

(732 posts)
29. Never a big fan of his beer, but stopped drinking it after
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:03 AM
Oct 2016

he told his employees that he would shut the brewery unless they decertified their union. Whatta guy! The appropriately name Dick.

http://articles.mcall.com/2007-06-13/opinion/3726393_1_teamsters-union-union-dues-yuengling-brewery

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
5. Pennsylvania pisswater.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 09:51 AM
Oct 2016

Can't stand the stuff. I don't understand the allure of American-style lagers. They ruin the barley and hops flavor by adding corn. Gross.

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
8. Meh. Matter of taste. Lots of different grains are used in beers all over the world.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 09:58 AM
Oct 2016

Beer is not just barley. Wheat is often used, as is corn, sorghum, rice, etc.

You don't like it, okay. Doesn't make it "pisswater."

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
9. I've brewed beer for 10 years.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:01 AM
Oct 2016

I know what goes in beer.

Corn is used to stop the fermentation process in American style lagers like Yeungling, Miller, Budweiser, et al. That is a cheap way of doing it.

yellowcanine

(35,692 posts)
13. And Yuengling has been brewing beer since 1829.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:14 AM
Oct 2016

I guess they might know what goes in beer also. It's a silly argument.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
16. If you call that beer, then I guess.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:18 AM
Oct 2016

I call it Pennsylvania pisswater, because it tastes like piss.

And if you think they used corn to stop fermentation way back when, then you're sadly mistaken. That's a more recent development amongst low end beers.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,846 posts)
19. So you've been brewing beer since it's been trendy.....
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:31 AM
Oct 2016

Not really an accomplishment. Neither is sounding like the stereotypical of a beer nerd.



Corn has been used in brewing for hundreds of years.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
21. Corn as a fermentable, yes.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:36 AM
Oct 2016

Corn as an adjunct, no.

There is a difference.

Most of the recipes I use predate American style lagers, anyhow. They never see a drop of corn.

If you like to drink pisswater, don't let me stop you. But don't get all upset when someone tells you you're drinking pisswater.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
23. Or merely alleges as such when it strokes their own biases.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:50 AM
Oct 2016

"don't get all upset when someone tells you you're drinking pisswater...."

Or merely alleges as such when it strokes their own biases.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,153 posts)
48. The only ingredients in beer should be
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:23 PM
Oct 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_purity_law

Barley
Hop
Water

As adopted by The Barvarian Purity Law of 1516.

Corn is not an ingredient of real beer.

One of my favorites, from the area I was born, follows these laws to a tee



"Our motto, natural simple and pure"

geardaddy

(24,924 posts)
50. That was before they understood yeast was responsible for making the alcohol.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:40 PM
Oct 2016

But yeah, that should be the law here, too.

doc03

(35,148 posts)
54. According to the German purity law? Beer has been made in many more countries than just Germany
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:06 PM
Oct 2016

what makes them the beat all end all in beer?

LiberalLovinLug

(14,153 posts)
58. Well they do have the oldest running brewery in the world
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:41 PM
Oct 2016
http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/04/history-beer/

The oldest known brewery still in operation today is the Benedictine Weihenstephan Breezeway in Bavaria, Germany. It’s thought that it first opened up shop around 768 and by 1040 is known to have been officially licensed by the City of Freising for making beer.

Yes, other countries like ancient Egypt, and other early civilizations etc.. made a beer-like malt from various grains, but the common western beer tastes veer towards the flavours of barley and hops.
 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
64. Well, the American Lager is based heavily on the German Pilsener
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 02:03 PM
Oct 2016

So, we stole that from them, then ruined it with corn grits (because 'Murica!).

They also created the Märzen, Hefeweizen, Kölsch, Bock, and Doppelbock.

The Germans, the Belgians, and the British wrote the book on beer. They are the be-all-end-all.

ForgoTheConsequence

(4,846 posts)
95. We didn't "steal" anything.
Sun Oct 30, 2016, 02:50 PM
Oct 2016

Pilsner is Czech (from PILSEN, get it?) Most of the early breweries in this country were started by German and Czech immigrants.

You don't know what you're talking about, spend more time reading and less with your Mr. Beer starter kit.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
98. Wow, dude. Touchy much?
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 07:33 AM
Oct 2016

Modern american lagers are NOTHING like their original German and Czech counterparts.

Also, pilsner is also spelled pilsener, especially when referring to Germany. It is of both Czech and German descent as it came from Bohemia (specifically, the city of Pilsen), which was in the Austrian Empire, long predating the modern Czech republic.

As for your snide Mr Beer comments... I do 20 gallon all grain brews using original recipes of my own, along with 200 year old recipes from Europe. Unless its a highly carbonated beer (like an Abbey ale or a saison) it goes to one of my kegs (sometimes I clarify it first, depending on the style) and I enjoy it on tap. Highly carbonated beers I bottle condition.

roamer65

(36,739 posts)
43. American commercial beers are awful.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:54 AM
Oct 2016

I have to go to Canada to get a real beer. Thank God I live near the border.

roamer65

(36,739 posts)
45. I have to head over soon.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:15 PM
Oct 2016

I want to try Molson "Cold Shots" Canadian. 6 pct Molson Canadian in a can. No poisoning the fermentation with that one...or at least not as much.

Also, I need to get a large bottle of Havana Club rum, since we now can bring it in the USA.
Now I can have a REAL rum and Coke. Thanks Obama!

doc03

(35,148 posts)
53. Don't even put Yeungling in the same sentence with swill like Miller and Budweiser.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:59 PM
Oct 2016

I happen to like Yeungling, Sam Adams and another is Leinenkugel's.

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
61. Yeungling is the same style of beer as Miller and Budweiser.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:58 PM
Oct 2016

It's also mass-produced like Miller and Budweiser. It also tastes like piss, just like Miller and Budweiser.

doc03

(35,148 posts)
72. That's your opinion to me Yeaugling can't be compared to
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 04:53 PM
Oct 2016

either of those. What makes you the authority on beer any more than anyone else.

jmowreader

(50,447 posts)
67. To "stop" the fermentation process?
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 02:48 PM
Oct 2016

The fermentation process is going to stop when the yeast's converted all the starch into monosaccharides and then all the monosaccharides to alcohol and CO2. Adjuncts - normally corn syrup in today's market - do three things.

They save money because Karo Syrup is cheaper than a monosaccharide-equivalent amount of barley malt.
They save time because yeast doesn't have to make invertase to convert Karo's starches into fermentable sugars.
And they produce a beer that many people actually like.

(Too bad my house is so fucking small, I make a mean steam beer.)

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
77. I'm talking about the addition of corn grits
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 06:03 PM
Oct 2016

Which slows the fermentation process BEFORE the beer is actually done. Modern commercial beers utilize this technique to move the batches along quicker.

Not the same as using corn sugar to prime, as commercial beers are artificially carbonated, not through fermentation.

jmowreader

(50,447 posts)
87. Oh boy
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 12:00 AM
Oct 2016

Brewer's yeast produces three enzymes: diastase, invertase and zymase. Because yeasts are single-cell organisms, they can really only produce one at a time.

The first one it produces is diastase. This converts starch to glucose.

Next is invertase. It "inverts" sugar - converting disaccharides, which yeast can't convert to alcohol, to monosaccharides which are convertible.

Then comes zymase, which converts monosaccharide to alcohol and carbon dioxide, which dissolves into the beer. (Breweries that filter beer recover the CO2 and re-carbonate the beer with it. Why buy new CO2 from a welding supply store when you can use the CO2 the beer gives you free?)

Using grits does a few things for you.

First, it gives you a beer with a lighter flavor. Beer drinkers who believe the perfect beer is a double bock with triple hops and a spoonful of Bitrex just to make sure won't believe this, but some of us actually like beer you can see through.

Next, corn and rice (the other popular adjunct in American-style lager) are lower in protein than barley is. Protein in beer contributes to cloudiness, which is why fines are so much in demand; they pull the proteins out of the beer. The flipside is wheat, a grain higher in protein than barley - which is why wheat beers are all cloudy as hell.

But here's the important part: mashing corn and rice cause the starches to break down into fermentable sugars before you ever pitch the wort with yeast. The higher the ratio of sugar to starch you have, the faster the yeast can go to work creating alcohol and the quicker you get to final gravity. And THIS, my dear doctor, is why worts with adjuncts finish faster than all-barley worts.

Freddie

(9,231 posts)
79. Yes indeed
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 06:05 PM
Oct 2016

I had to listen to my hairdresser go an about all the "Clinton crimes" while she had a scissors and/or chemicals in my hair. I'd change hairdressers in a minute but she's really good with my hair and only goes off the rails during Presidential years.

doc03

(35,148 posts)
55. I tried it, don't see what is so great about it unless you are one that thinks
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:09 PM
Oct 2016

for something to be good it has to be imported.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
59. Oh, I'm quite eclectic in my tastes, and I've had Belgian beer in Belgium, Pilsner in Plzen, and the
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:47 PM
Oct 2016

original "Budweiser" in České Budějovice. And Heineken, Stella Artois, HofBrau, .......

But I'm quite happy with Anchor Steam, Brooklyn Lager, Sam Adams, and all kinds of "craft" beers! I shop in stores where one can put together their own 6-packs for $12.00.

But no more for my Yuengling!

P.S. That's now two of us to whom you replied as if taking some kind of personal offense at liking foreign beers. It's just BEER!
De gustibus non disputandum est!

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
12. I'm a beer snob.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:09 AM
Oct 2016

Tried a Yuengling. Once. There are many better beers. But I'll add them to my extensive boycott list, just for the sake of form. I'll put them next to Papa John's pizza-flavored cardboard.

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
18. There should be a long list of businesses....
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:27 AM
Oct 2016

That we should avoid.....I don't do papa johns....I don't do trump properties....i don't do any Limbaugh sponsors...

Jimbo S

(2,953 posts)
20. Good
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:32 AM
Oct 2016

This is how the populace fights back against the corporatists. More of this needs to happen.

Sometimes we are our own worst enemy.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
22. I was at a lecture here in Philly last night. The reception had two choices of alcohol:
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 10:49 AM
Oct 2016

Yuengling and bottom shelf Chardonnay.

I had the Chardonnay.

I despise Chardonnay.


LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
31. Philly has some amazing breweries including Yards
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:09 AM
Oct 2016

Why they would have Yuengling is beyond me.

One of my volunteer jobs I bartend for a local organization - their beer choices are Miller Lite and Yuengling. I would just choose to not drink.

I'm trying to push selling local beers. For a few shows we had leftover cans of beer from Mispillion River Brewing here in Delaware. When I informed patrons of that choice they all were interested (I was at the bigger venue that also has Guiness and DFH60, the small venue has space limits and doesn't sell those 2 beers). Buy local!

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
30. I'd join the protest but I can't stand the beer!
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:07 AM
Oct 2016

My favorite beers are from local breweries here in Delaware. For all I know Sam Cagalione (Owner of Dogfish Head Brewery here in Delaware) could be a raging right-wing extremist who is funneling millions of dollars to Trump's campaign.

If he is I don't know it - he never talks politics other than getting local Delaware Politicians of both parties to pass laws that help protect and promote Delaware beer.

How someone votes personally doesn't matter to me but when that person engages their businesses into extremist politics then they deserve the backlash!

geardaddy

(24,924 posts)
32. That's why I stopped drinking Leinenkugel.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:14 AM
Oct 2016

I heard they were GOP supporters, so, no more Leinie's for me.
Besides, I usually drink more locally, since we have so many breweries here in the Twin Cities.

berksdem

(593 posts)
33. not really...
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:17 AM
Oct 2016

sure why so many people are shocked here. Dick has been a long time right winger and anti union.

Aristus

(66,083 posts)
34. My personal boycott won't hurt him, since I've never drunk his stuff.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:19 AM
Oct 2016

I'm a local microbrew kind of guy. But I hope his business craters.

FSogol

(45,356 posts)
49. Huh? Anheuser Busch bought Rolling Rock years ago. That stuff isn't brewed in Latrobe anymore. n/t
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:26 PM
Oct 2016

bullsnarfle

(254 posts)
99. True,
Mon Oct 31, 2016, 12:53 PM
Oct 2016

but at least the 16 oz cans are still brewed in glass-lined tanks with the old recipe. And the "Latrobe Breweries" name is still used, even having been bought-out. Hard to find anything anymore that hasn't been bought-out by big greedy Corporate.

BoyBlue2

(5 posts)
47. Never Did Like It Anyway
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 12:18 PM
Oct 2016

I will never buy another Yuengling. Just like I moved all my money to a local Credit Union. Keep up this type of pressure, it works.

sellitman

(11,596 posts)
57. I live within walking distance to 2 Breweries.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 01:25 PM
Oct 2016

(Is a tough neighborhood but someone has to live here. )

One is huge one Micro. I drink local beer only.

Beer snob i am.

roamer65

(36,739 posts)
62. When I visited Australia, I had the best damn commercial lager I've ever tasted.
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 02:03 PM
Oct 2016

VB...Victoria Bitter. If I lived in Australia, I would be an alcoholic!

I drank it for lunch, supper, breakfast, whenever.

https://m.




Firestorm49

(4,002 posts)
66. Good for them
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 02:22 PM
Oct 2016

Having owned a business for 36 years, I came to understand the significance of remaining neutral during election times. As much as I wanted to put up signs and banners, I never did. With the internet age upon us, it is sometimes difficult to attract new customers, keep the old ones, and not piss too many of them off. I am astounded by how many businesses choose to put up political banners and signs on their business property. No surprise, but if I see Republican signs in front of a business, I will choose NOT to deal with them, given any reasonable alternative.
So to all of you staunch business owners who choose to publicize your political beliefs, you get an "F" in designing your business plan and you no doubt will reap what you sow. In the long run, you may feel that you won the battle ( a joke in itself) but you will lose the war.

BumRushDaShow

(127,288 posts)
69. Shit. Have some Black and Tan in the fridge
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 03:07 PM
Oct 2016

Away it goes.

WTF is wrong with some of these folks?

(as a note, I'm not really a beer drinker but I have it for guests who do drink it)

Wuddles440

(1,098 posts)
74. It's time to resurrect the "Blue Pages"!
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 05:15 PM
Oct 2016

It always amazes me when these "brilliant" businesses publicly promote their political ideologies. What idiots! If I can, I'm always going to avoid supporting businesses that have political beliefs that are polar opposites of mine. Of course, that's why most utilize Super PACS for their financial advocacy to insulate them from disclosing their identities and adversely impacting their business interests. Buy BLUE!!!

bpositive

(423 posts)
81. I'll admit
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 07:17 PM
Oct 2016

I like the beer and it's endorsement of Trump greatly disappoints. I'm sure the breweries probably spill more than I would drink in a lifetime but I will do my part in avoiding it. In fact, I just opted for a Sam Adams winter over it. Probably doesn't mean too much to them but it's a start and it sounds like I am part of a movement.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,846 posts)
83. I only liked their hefeweizen, called "Summer Wheat."
Fri Oct 28, 2016, 11:02 PM
Oct 2016

It's their only beer that I thought was "above average" for a style, but I'll never drink it again.

EDIT: I used to brew beer at home and win some local competitions, and I've sampled lots of beers.

Upin

(115 posts)
92. I'm off it for good...
Sat Oct 29, 2016, 10:49 AM
Oct 2016

Yingling was usually the least crappy choice at a place that only serves Bud and Coors.

Might have to go with water... The horror..

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