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kebob

(499 posts)
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 01:08 AM Nov 2016

Russian Holocaust ice-skating routine slammed as 'unbelievably tasteless'

Source: CNN

By Ben Westcott, CNN
Updated 10:24 PM ET, Sun November 27, 2016



(CNN) A Holocaust-themed ice skating routine on a Russian reality television show, involving the wife of a high-level aide to President Vladimir Putin, has sparked outrage around the world.

The act was based on the award-winning 1997 Italian film, "Life is Beautiful," which tells the story of a Jewish father who tries to hide his son from the horrors of the Holocaust through humor and games.

In the routine, set to Israeli singer Noa's "Beautiful That Way" from the film's soundtrack, former Olympic ice skater Tatiana Navka and her dance partner Andrei Burkovsky dance in the striped pajamas and yellow six-pointed stars which Jewish victims of Nazi concentration camps were forced to wear.

At the end, Burkovsky is heard being shot as Navka stands alone, looking grieved.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/27/europe/russian-ice-skating-holocaust-trnd/index.html



The full video is viewable at the link, but I'll be fucking well damned if I'm gonna post it!
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Russian Holocaust ice-skating routine slammed as 'unbelievably tasteless' (Original Post) kebob Nov 2016 OP
Horrifying bravenak Nov 2016 #1
Russia's anti jews behavior predated any nazi invasion. nt msongs Nov 2016 #2
This routine is not anti-Semitic. LisaL Nov 2016 #18
Right. Antisemitic is pretending it didn't happen, Hortensis Nov 2016 #24
This kept popping up on my Twitter feed last night. I assumed that it was from some kind of sketch Chakab Nov 2016 #3
Another Bialystock & Bloom production? NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #4
What. The. Fuck. area51 Nov 2016 #5
What is going on in this world? smirkymonkey Nov 2016 #6
It's still not as tasteless as what the Russians are doing in Aleppo. Bad Dog Nov 2016 #7
Well, some Brits produced a Holocaust musical. JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 2016 #8
I found the skate very moving. I recognized the music from "Life is Beautiful" Sunlei Nov 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author obamanut2012 Nov 2016 #10
2nd attempt to post a reply astral Nov 2016 #11
The taboo is in the point the dance routine was making. haele Nov 2016 #12
Agree. "Nothing tasteless about it." Grins Nov 2016 #13
Here's the deal Generator Nov 2016 #14
Also I want to say Generator Nov 2016 #15
It could be the wrong place for you. crim son Nov 2016 #19
I get it generator and I agree with you Danmel Nov 2016 #21
So US never made movies about Holocaust? LisaL Nov 2016 #17
I don't understand the problem either. They are not trying to offend anyone. LisaL Nov 2016 #16
Have You SEEN The Video? kebob Nov 2016 #20
Yes Nederland Nov 2016 #23
Unbelievably tasteless alright Nederland Nov 2016 #22

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
18. This routine is not anti-Semitic.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 04:53 PM
Nov 2016

They are not making fun of anyone, they are portraying parents of a child (they were all send to concentration camp) and pretending everything is fine.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
24. Right. Antisemitic is pretending it didn't happen,
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 04:17 PM
Nov 2016

preferring to deny one's own behavior might have any similarities to behaviors a couple generations before.

A dramatic statement before the world that it did and that it still matters is brave. Just WHO are those claiming loudest that it's in such bad "taste"?

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
3. This kept popping up on my Twitter feed last night. I assumed that it was from some kind of sketch
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 01:58 AM
Nov 2016

comedy show until I actually read the tweets that it was embedded in.

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
7. It's still not as tasteless as what the Russians are doing in Aleppo.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 07:08 AM
Nov 2016

I don't think they give a monkey's about Western opinion. And, like the blackface artists of the past, they can claim it's not an insult, but a tribute. The only reason the West can't see it is because it's intolerant.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,340 posts)
8. Well, some Brits produced a Holocaust musical.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 10:09 AM
Nov 2016
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagine_This

That had to be a bigger deal than some ice-skate choreography on "Russia's got Talent".

Response to Sunlei (Reply #9)

 

astral

(2,531 posts)
11. 2nd attempt to post a reply
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 02:07 PM
Nov 2016

This was a beautifully-done routine and I do not understand what the problem is. Is it taboo to remember that the holocaust even happened? Why?

Nothing tasteless about it. Don't paint yourself into a corner by refusing to see.

haele

(12,654 posts)
12. The taboo is in the point the dance routine was making.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 02:18 PM
Nov 2016

Some people think the routine was disrespectful to the WWII Holocaust/work camp victims.
But I also suspect some people saw the routine as subversive - that society is turning a blind eye to the increasingly Facist, Nationalist and/or separatist societal situations (that many people suspect Russia is involved in promoting for their own political interests); that there's a significant amount of the majority - protected "citizens" - going about pretending "Life is Beautiful" while others are being marginalized into dis-enfranchisement, prisons and potentially social extermination as undesirables.

Good art is always subversive - no matter if it's a simple still life, or the depiction of a historic event.

Haele

Grins

(7,217 posts)
13. Agree. "Nothing tasteless about it."
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 02:28 PM
Nov 2016

I don't see where this excuses the Holocaust or its perpetrators.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
14. Here's the deal
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 02:48 PM
Nov 2016

TOO FUCKING SOON or maybe because all those of the generation are almost dead. We have a fucking neo-Nazi scum adviser moving into the white house and nothing is going to be done to get him out of there.

It doesn't excuse the Holocaust but it makes it entertainment. It's not entertainment. It's like RAPE jokes. If you had been raped you wouldn't find it funny or entertainment. The Holocaust, Nazi's are like some joke-some big play. It happened. It'a happening again with Trump and Bannon and Breitbart. There were swastikas painted on my elementary school in OREGON. A supposedly blue state near Portland. I'm not Jewish but it's not entertainment,. It's a horror. It's just appalling and if you don't get that then I don't get you.

You don't get it actually happened do you? You don't get it.

Also Putin is anti-GAY anti-Democracy anti-journalists and helped make Trump president. Anything happening in Russia is suspect. I do not trust the Russians. Wake up and damn some googling. Maybe then you'll understand.
And Russia hated Jews for decades. Learn some damn history.

 

Generator

(7,770 posts)
15. Also I want to say
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 02:50 PM
Nov 2016

If I came back to DU to find people this insensitive and uneducated maybe it's the wrong place for me. Have a nice life everybody!

Danmel

(4,915 posts)
21. I get it generator and I agree with you
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 08:48 AM
Nov 2016

But please stay.
When my father was liberated from the Plattling Concentration camp by Patton's third army, he weighed 89 pounds and had typhus. The ñuns who were the nurses there said in German (my dad was polish but spoke polish, German, Yiddish and later of course English), nothing will come from him. There were sureb that he wasn't going to survive. He lost his parents, sister, sister in-law, 6 year old nephew, and countless friend, neighbors, teachers and on and on.
I doubt too many starving, sick prisoners would be up to a skating routine. It is offensive to me.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
16. I don't understand the problem either. They are not trying to offend anyone.
Mon Nov 28, 2016, 04:49 PM
Nov 2016

They are portraying roles in a movie, where parents (they play the parents) cheer on a child, pretending everything is great.

Nederland

(9,976 posts)
23. Yes
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:47 AM
Nov 2016

The routine shows two Jewish parents trying to shield their child from the horrors of living in a concentration camp. At the end, the husband is shot. The song is taken from the movie 'Life is Beautiful', and was nominated for an Oscar.

What exactly is offensive about that?

Nederland

(9,976 posts)
22. Unbelievably tasteless alright
Tue Nov 29, 2016, 09:35 AM
Nov 2016

I am offended that anyone would dare to remind us that in our recent past Jews were rounded up, placed in concentration camps and killed.

Can't we all just pretend that it never happened?

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